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you ever think about how fucked up it is that shen qingqiu's first mission out of sect was him subduing the skinner, a demon who targeted and replaced people no one would really miss?
very fun how the skinner ended up getting killed and destroyed by someone else who took the place of a person no one really missed
Shen Qingqiu's internal identity is making me feral
He's caught in Luo Binghe's dream and I'm assuming that reverts him into his true self or how he sees himself internally which is why he appears as Shen Qingqiu
Every fanfic that has Shen Yuan being revealed in his dreams is wrong
Shen Qingqiu is Shen Qingqiu first and foremost
The wholesale rejection of his past self is so deep and ingrained that if someone went searching for his "real" identity the most they'd get is his web ID
Like that is ...familiar and like honestly same hat in a lot of respects but also! People who are mentally stable don't do that!
I know you said your last life was idyllic and trouble free Shen Qingqiu but forgive me for not believing a damn thing your lying ass has to say!
The fact that Shen Yuan felt so alienated in his previous life that he doesn't even identify with it anymore isn't all that surprising!
There were all these studies made about what amount of money actually makes people happy, and the conclusion was that people are generally happy if they have enough money for financial security, but still have goals and things to strive and work towards. People who have so much money that all their conceivable needs and desires are automatically met were, paradoxically, much more miserable.
So the fact that Shen Yuan was a fuerdai who had no ambitions, no goals, and no real struggles other than spewing the occasional vitriolic rant against poor writing paints a fairly bleak image of his previous life. Maybe he was physically comfortable, but man, what a barren existence that must have been.
The fact that he was thrust into a situation where he 1. had to work and struggle against a threat to his life and 2. was given responsibilities and work that he had to keep up with on a daily basis were both things that likely provided more enrichment than anything from his previous life. He really came alive as Shen Qingqiu.
@azzandra you've touched on something here that very few people speak about and it's the fact that, surprisingly, svsss is a self-fulfilling isekai/transmigration story but not for the reasons most people think. it's not because the cool cultivation stuff or the monsters or the romance, though that matters too; it's because as you said, he came alive as sqq. he gained a purpose, he became someone that fought for his family and his loved ones, a teacher loved by all his disciples, etc etc and that was something he couldn't have in his first life. He was even able to get out of the closet and have a happily gay ever after.
You're both so right Whenever he talks about his old life he only describes himself as a "worthless pretty boy" and I find that so telling
But when he's first asked his name as Plant Shen he almost says:
"Ha, ha, this humble one is the untalented Qing Jing Peak Lord of Cang Qiong Mountain, the Xiu Ya Sword, Shen Qingqiu of the Central Plains"
SVSSS Vol 2 p 178
He takes such joy and pride in being Shen Qingqiu and it's such a contrast
Like he enjoys being Plant Shen but he also doesn't want to be him. Not really
God hes so very character isn't he?
Sorry but also the notion that Jiang Cheng had no character development at all in mdzs is so extremely funny because he very noticeably did .. In fact that's what you're mad about..! He developed into a crueller and more withdrawn character! I thought we established this!!
happy pride my lovelies
Happy pride
Funniest curse that JC and WWX could be struck with is a musical curse. They’re cursed until they sing their feelings out. JC’s first instinct is to off himself but JL stops him. At first they keep singing different songs at each other but eventually they come together for a duet that leaves all the juniors in tears. LWJ has never been so uncomfortable in his life.
fffffff
MUSICAL EPISODE
WHY WERE WE DEPRIVED
if xie lian and chung myung were in the same property you could NOT pay me to stfu about their cinematic parallels. two figures, one loathed by history and one loved by history. one the sweetest man you'll ever meet the other the most rat bastard man you'll ever meet. both failing to save their people and realizing the futility of individual power. one who ends up trying to dismantle his own/broad systems of power in response and the other enabling community empowerment (and also dismantling broader systems of power) in response. one who has people who understand him but resent him, the other with people who admire/loathe him but can't understand him. both meathead aspec martial arts nerds who ran into cultivation/taoism to avoid having to fuck.
he's too spoiled
I can't believe I'm reading a novel about incels getting married to their favorite imaginary alpha males
Can we talk about the way Katsuki looks at Izuku in OFFICIAL art?
Genuinely unable to comprehend how Jiang Cheng went through the fall of Lotus Pier, the Sunshot Campaign, the deaths of all his family members, and then was left alone to raise his sect from the ashes, all while raising a baby that was barely 4 months old, all before he reached the age of 20.
"Oh, but he messed up so many times, look how Jin Ling turned out–" Obviously?? He would have??? Man had no idea what he was doing?? He didn't have the privilege of mourning in seclusion or having someone else lead his sect, he had to do everything on his own.
When you think about it, Jiang Cheng working hard and bringing Yunmeng Jiang into the Big Four once again is insane– imaging having to rebuild it from the ground up, imagine having no real connections with other clans (save for the Jin, and even that barely), imagine the political disadvantage he was left with after his brother died.
Because politics are ruthless, and all everyone had to say to shut up Jiang Cheng in any kind of setting if he is acting up is "Well, you let the son of a servant, a man you called brother, run rampant in demonic cultivation," and it doesn't matter that that's not how it went, the shadow of the Yiling Patriarch is just something Jiang Cheng can't easily shake that early on. I have no idea how it actually went for him, but I can't imagine anyone was that eager to come to his aid in any kind of way.
The Jiang clan triumphing isn't even attempting the impossible, it's looking at the impossible in the face and laughing.
Kudos to him because I would have simply killed myself and been done with it.
something something about doing better than your own mother
you know that scene that introduces us to jiang cheng in present time with jin ling and lan wangji, where we’re kind of lead to think ‘god what a dick’? yeah listen, say whatever you want but he’s actually way calmer and more diplomatic than i ever would be. if i had a kid and a dude made him shut up like that i’d deck him, no hesitation
Oh how wonderful, how terrifying, to be loved to destruction
The full quote can be found here
Oh how wonderful, how terrifying, to be loved to destruction
The full quote can be found here
I think people have a hard time visualizing JC and WWX’s different strengths. Like WWX is great in a emergency when quick action is needed but if you need someone to set up a permanent plan for running an organization you go to JC. It’s not to say JC can’t think on his feet or WWX can’t plan ahead, but I know which one I’d like to work on a group project with.
yeah!!! but we also don't get to see Jiang Cheng do his thing, ever, so I get why! I for one am DESPERATE to know how he rallied enough cultivators to his utterly destroyed sect to be anything resembling a leading force in the Sunshot Campaign. how did he rebuild and restructure the sect when he didn't have a clan to back him-- he'd have to reimagine a completely new structure for Yunmeng Jiang, something unlike what any other major clan is doing! how did he navigate not only the practicalities, but the politics of being an extremely young sect leader with no resources, no Jin Guangyao to give him free loans and help him rebuild like the Lan had, not a member of the Venerated Triad, only the Jin as extremely contingent and fair-weather allies... and after 13/16 years, is back to being one of the largest and most important clans in the jianghu, respected and feared and known?
Lan Wangji is Hanguang-jun and Lan Xichen was seen as a beacon of hope wherever he arrived, but imagine the stories they must have told about Jiang Cheng. imagine what a miracle he must have seemed to be, rising from the ashes of Lotus Pier.
look, all i'm saying is that if your parents fostered this kid for a while and you became best friends, and then the kid got into drugs or something and joined a gang and killed your brother-in-law, and the police got involved and your newly widowed sister, who had a one-month-old baby, ran into the middle of the gunfight to protect your almost-brother and got killed and then he blew himself up with a grenade, and then over a decade later he suddenly showed up at your house reincarnated into the body of a teenager with his boyfriend who is in his 30s and also hates you and got mad at you for not kicking your orphaned teenage nephew's emotional support dog out of the house as soon as you realized your almost-brother was there without an invitation, and you went to the private family cemetery and he and his boyfriend had jumped the fence and were doing something that looked an awful lot like getting ready to have sex on top of your parents' grave, and you held yourself back from doing anything but saying "you piece of shit, stop fucking on top of mom and dad's grave and get out of here" and the boyfriend went "oh good i've been looking for an excuse to punch you" and punched you in the face, you would hit him back too
