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Izzy "Unicorn" Hands in Our Flag Means Death 2.04 • Fun and Games
Izzy Bares All - Izzy and Con fun facts :) ❤
Izzy:
- Before playing the role Con wrote a backstory for Izzy – most details are in the Izzy poem (the boy, the ring).
- The little black panties in the toe scene – that decision to do it like that was sprung on him in his trailer before he was about to go on set, no discussion about it so he used what he normally wore under Izzy’s leathers.
- Con originally auditioned for Buttons.
- About Izzy S1 vs S2 and the reception: Right, well, obviously there's no secret there was a lot of hate aimed towards Izzy - and me to be honest - after first season had dropped which I never understood because I knew who he was was and although I didn't know what was going to happen in season two I knew who he was and I've said this before I don't... we have all loved somebody who doesn't love us back and we've all reacted to that in different ways and simplicity of season one is: Izzy is a great first mate and he's in love with his captain and you know he's a bit of an arsehole but he's a bit of an arsehole on season two as well – and they all are - people fell in love with him in season two because more of him was revealed and so I kind of... I always felt that he was iconic because I'm playing a man in love with somebody who doesn't love him back and I think that's universal and I don't think that's often expressed in queer stuff, the rejection of... the rejection that we all feel by being queer from the moment we realise society is rejecting us, the moment we have the epiphany that we are queer we hear society and it’s fucking rejecting us. So to have that and then to be rejected in love is a really big cacophony of pain and it's something we all as queer people have to deal with at one point or another and I think people started to understand that with Izzy and identify with Izzy more in the second season but I strongly say that the beauty and the genius of the writers of this show is they didn't change Izzy, they just revealed Izzy and that is what people latched on to.
- Do you have any fan art on display around your home and does it give you the warm fuzzies knowing that you and Izzy mean so much to people they express that through the gifts they give you: Yeah, it does give me the warm fuzzies and do have some Izzy art in my house… I have an Izzy doll on my mantle piece in my office, I have a Val doll, I have the wonderful puppets of Izzy and Cooper, I have some paintings. Yeah, it means the world to me. I mean I've never had a response to a character like this and kind of more importantly the work I've done in the past which quite often gets... doesn't get the attention that the work not my work necessarily but the the work itself – Uncle, for example, didn't get much attention but for the fans to discover that and then to realize how important Val is... those things mean a lot too, you know, and Cliff in Cucumber and all these… it means the world to me and thank all of you for doing the fan art.
- What's Izzy's idea of a perfect date: Steak and a fuck. Medium rare, on both.
- If Izzy had has survived but Steve and Ed were still off the ship who would Izzy have hooked up with and why: Jim.I mean there was always that sexual tension between Jim and Izzy, they were... that would be a fuck worth watching.
- About scars on Izzy’s back: Originally, because the the toe scene was sprung on me, we never discussed having body tattoos - we didn't have the time, and then when we heard about the topples scene in season two we only had I think three or four weeks when that script came through and I wanted a story on Izzy's body, I wanted some narrative to the journey he'd been on, and we discussed a big rising sun tattoo that would cover his back which I liked because it had an eastern leaning to it and I think he's well travelled and blah blah blah, but we we really didn't have the time to discuss that and the whipping, basically the whipping scars were a testament to when he started on the ships and would probably think he knew better than and could possibly know better than most of the first mates he worked with and so that arrogance would create a legacy of beatings and whippings, and I actually thought that Debs the makeup designer did a beautiful job on that because it was a... I didn't want it steal the scene and I wanted to do it exactly what it did which was tantalise and create a narrative for who he had been in his previous life if you notice at no point does he whip anyone he carries whip but he never whips anyone and I don't think that would be his form of punishment with disobedient crew, and I just thought it was an interesting way of filling that that historical part of his disobedient youth.
- If Izzy got to wear a fancy outfit like Edward's purple suit for the party scene: All black. No colours, not even a hint of colour. There’s no other colour in his wardrobe apart from black and leather.
- Would Izzy have chosen to be Captain Frenchie's first mate: No. Frenchie is not strong enough for Izzy. I think Frenchie would actually be a great captain but he wouldn't be a strong enough captain for Izzy.
- Izzy has survived how long do you think it would have been before he called Stede 'Captain': Never. Edward is his captain. Stede's never gonna be that guy. He's got to be a really dynamic aggressive captain, that's what Izzy responds to. It is like a lover and Stede is not going to replace that.
- What made Izzy realise that Blackbeard had gone too far: Just the cruelty to the crew, that's what it is. You know, he cares about his crew - he might not show it - but he does, and what Ed was doing was risking and being cruel to his crew, so no.
- Izzy during the scene when Ed gives him the gun in S2: He's just seeing this man that he adores breaking and remember he's already been shot. I remember David saying ‘That pretty much ends it’ , the love he feels for Edward once he’s been shot – it’s different. You can be rejected in many ways, being shot in the thigh is quite a strong rejection.
- Was Izzy in S1 really considering leaving the ship or was that just a game that he and Blackbeard play: I think he's left Blackbeard a few times and always got back, so that's probably a game.
- Were Ed and Izzy strictly platonic or not: They fucked like rabbits. It may be platonic towards the end, but they were lovers.
- On David Jenkins calling Izzy both Blackbeard’s father figure and Ed’s jilted wife: I think it's a very complicated relationship. So we're not going to be able to say yes, he's a father figure, or yes, he's a jilted wife. He's all of those things. I think: business-wise, father figure. Relationship-wise, lover / jilted wife / angry boyfriend / jilted boyfriend, whatever way you want to put it. There's no one category of that relationship that's gonna work, because it's deeply, deeply complicated.
- If Izzy had a secret playlist, what's one surprising song you think would be on it: Somewhere Over the Rainbow.
- What's the 'one more song' that he sings at the end of Calypso's birthday and what if it was by David Bowie: If it was David Bowie's song, it'd be Heroes. If it was someone else it might be T.Rex's I Love to Boogie.
- What is Izzy and Ed’s music playlist for having sex: Oh, guys, come on, it could be anything. You know what I will say now, and it's my age, but George Michael's Faith is one of the greatest fuck albums of all time, so let's go with that.
- What was it like working with Joel Fry: Well, Joel and I have worked together before. We did a BBC series together, so he's one of my favourite actors. I think Joel is exquisite. Yeah, he's a grumpy fucker, but I love the bones of him, and I'm a grumpy fucker too, so we're good at that. And I would... if Joel's on the cost list, then I'll do the gig. [about Joel not doing conventions:] He’s a really private guy. He doesn't reveal himself outside of his work, which I think is admirable.
- Out of the crew of The Revenge who would be Izzy’s top four that he’d sleep with: Ed, obviously, Jim, he wouldn’t go for Lucius, I don’t think, he’s too young and too pretty and too new, I think that him and Wee John would hook up at some point and… yeah, Calico Jack, yeah, now that’s that been brought to my attention, yeah, abso-fucking-lutely, those two would be hammering at it like doornails.
Con:
Choosing one or other:
- vampires or zombies: vampires
- showers or baths: baths
- mornings or evenings: evenings
- winter or summer: winter
- relaxing holidays or action packed trip: relaxing holiday
- crunchy or smooth peanut butter: crunchy
- museums or amusement parks: amusement parks
- phone calls or text messages: phone calls
- beach or pool: beach
- rain or snow: snow... rain… bit of both
- time travel to the past or future: past
- restaurant date night or cooking at home: home
- pizza or sushi: pizza
- fantasy or sci-fi: sci-fi.
- star in a film Taika wrote or have Taika star in a film you wrote: star in the one Taika wrote
- high heels and spanx or wooden leg while soaking wet: high heels
- giving or receiving: giving, on every level
- Which role throughout your career has been your favourite to play, and why: Izzy, obviously, I love doing Mickey in Blood Brothers, I love doing Joe Meek, and I love playing Cliff, and I adore playing Val. And many others.
- About Jim in Midsomers Murders: The reason I did that role was because he had the line. ‘I just want to make cheese.' It's such a wonderful personification, and also, the death being trampled by cows is just… When cows get nervous, they shit. And we were lying in that fucking stall for, like, 6 hours with just a hundred cows who were shitting. Constantly.
- When are we getting Con debut album: Never. Never gonna happen because there is no interest.
- What keeps you going when shoots are tough or not going to plan: Coffee.
- Would Con consider doing a part with full frontal nudity if it was relevant to the story: I've done full frontal nudity. I've done it on stage Mother Clap's Molly House. And we were naked in Bedrooms and Hallways in the sauna. To be honest I feel all full frontal nudity is kind of unnecessary. I hate it on stage, I hate the way that it's the women are expected to do it more than men are, I also I feel that if you're doing full frontal nudity and it's a sexual scene and there's no erection then there's absolutely no point in seeing a flaccid penis in that scenario and I to be honest... very quick story I went to see Equus when I was like 15 and I knew the actor playing Alan because he was part of my drama group and so I wasn't that particularly interested in seeing his penis, I'd probably already seen it, and I noticed the audience lent forward when he got naked and it occurred to me and I think it's true that audiences don't look at the characters genitals they look at the actors' or the actresses' genitals so they're stepping out of the play to look at somebody's dick or fanny and so I would much rather not step out of something for a cheap thrill and I think directors and producers are quite often dishonest about why they have nudity in the show. So I would do it if I honestly felt it was absolutely appropriate but if it didn't feel like... if it felt like it was titillation – fuck it, it I'm too old for that nonsense.
- What is the most stressful thing that's ever happened to you on stage: I did Educating Rita with brilliant Leanne Best written by the genius, truly genius, Willy Russell. It's a two-hander, and on my… the very last night, I dried. And I dried – as in Iforgot my lines - but it was a huge chunk that I couldn't remember. And Leanne tried to help me by giving me the lines, but they were the lines I'd just done, so I started to laugh because I wanted to say, I know that bit! But I literally, I was literally about to walk off stage, and as I started to walk off stage to get the book, to read these lines, I remembered the lines, so… but that was traumatic, very traumatic. I thought I'd got away with it and then the sound came up to me afterwards in the bar and said, ‘Oh, that was very embarrassing.’
- Do you have a favourite shark: Jaws. White shark. Yeah. Bruce. Great white, yeah.
- What’s your favourite bad horror movie: Most of them. Most of them are shit, and I'm a big horror movie fan. Most of them, 90% of them, are shit.
- While you've always been a sex symbol, did the huge resurgence in your career and interest in your projects at this point in your life take you by surprise: Yes. Listen, it always takes me by surprise whenever I do anything that lands. Any show that I do that lands is always a surprise. It's lovely, but it's a surprise. Because I don't do… I tend not to do mainstream stuff. So yeah, it's always a surprise when something I do that's kind of out there lands. So, yeah.
- Does Cooper like all the fan art that's been made of him, is he modest about how many of us love him or has the fame gone to his head: The toys that he's given he destroys really quickly. He's used to the adoration though because he gets a lot of love at home.
Has he met the Cooper puppet, is that weird for him: Yes. It’s not weird for him he just wants to destroy that as well.
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Okay, so, class.
Hello, published historian here.
As much as I love the headcanon that maybe Izzy is nobility etc, I have bad news about the British class system pre-Industrial Revolution and even a century or more post-I.R.
Our Flag Means Death is of course a rubberband reality. But.
That boy’s highly likely going nowhere, my guys, he is vocally Liverpool-by-way-of-Wigan. He dresses functionally-but-smartly, but he curses, he spits, he’s comfortable walking alone in dangerous spaces and talking to the people who live there. He’s consciously coded as a skilled working class man. What that means in 1717 is… congratulations, you have one trade that’s been passed down to you and that’s your place, do not move, you do not pass Go.
Stede Bonnet? That’s the guy who can beat you to death with legal impunity. You probably brought it upon yourself.
Even a full century after Stede Bonnet’s reign of incompetency, a skilled and clever working class man could rise in the ranks of the British army - if he were an anomaly - but socially he would be shunned by his peers in rank. HARD.
A lot of young men fell into piracy the way most of us now fall into retail. We need money, it’s there.
So Izzy is a man who’s been born, grown up, and matured amongst people he knows with similar abilities and if he runs away before that (people rarely upped sticks with a full family pre-Industrial Revolution) he’d better have a marketable skill. A reliable way to learn or hone that skill? Boarding a ship as a child. And does that suck?
Oh boy, does it suck. We’re talking likely violent or contagious death, not to mention all the other things that can happen to unattended children. But at least you can learn. You can rise through the ranks. But society? Forget it, you dirty slag.
Because it gets worse! Stede fucking Bonnet, despite being the creme-de-la-creme of Barbados society, would have zero chance - I mean NONE - of being accepted in London by those he considered his equals. He was a dirty colonial, despite all his ruffles and marmalade and wealth, so imagine what Izzy had to look forward to. An unmarked pauper’s grave? Yeah. And space was at a premium, so as a working class person you could safely expect your bones to be turfed out into the river if someone else needed the plot. During a period when Resurrection was accepted doctrine, what this meant in spiritual terms was that poor people had no souls.
Have a go at tracing the grave of an ancestor from c.1700s Britain. Good luck.
So as much as it will be super cool to find out Izzy had a past in the Royal Navy etc etc - which would be super interesting and definitely plausible - it’s highly unlikely he’s anything other than bog standard working class. Maybe a working class boy who’s beaten the odds.
But if I were a young man in 1717 and a rich clueless dude boarded my ship with zero prior experience and wanted to take charge… I’d kill him.
I’d kill him so hard.
All of this is amazing, especially the historical commentary and the precise nature of “Liverpool-by-way-of-Wigan” because I knew it was Northern, but I couldn’t pin down the exact area and yeah you nailed it. I’m from that area, ha.
But I just want to highlight this one particular bit:
Stede Bonnet? That’s the guy who can beat you to death with legal impunity. You probably brought it upon yourself.
It is utterly and disgustingly fascinating to bear witness to this being re-perpetuated in real time, in 2022, in this fandom.
After all, a lot of people elevate Ed high above Izzy and then argue that he brought his maiming upon himself.
Thank you! I wrote this after sharing three bottles of wine at a party, so I’ve been terrified ever since that I’d just gone on a drunk rant. Something I would add in the cold light of sobriety: Obviously, Ed’s pain and sense of rejection is class-based but intersectional with his race, and you can’t separate the two. But assuming Ed and Izzy had similar upbringings in terms of class, hence their closeness and years of trust, it puts Izzy’s warnings and frustration in an interesting light. Under the flag of Blackbeard, there’s power that transcends class. Blackbeard scares the shit out of everyone, and even though they don’t accept him, they respect him. Doesn’t matter if you’re an officer, a merchant, or a fellow pirate - you treat Blackbeard and his crew with awe. They’re still scum, but they’re scum that’s taken seriously, and that’s the best they can hope for. So when Stede Bonnet comes along with zero experience, lots of money, and a belief that he deserves a place in the world of Blackbeard, it’s funny at first. “What kind of fucking idiot—?” But it’s also really, really insulting. You’ve got everything they’ll never have, Stede! Fuck off home to your servants! (Quick note: many gentleman referred to their housemaids as ‘Mary’, regardless of their real names, because who gives a shit what their name actually is.) And then the unthinkable happens: Ed slips under Stede’s influence. It’s a worrying step down in Izzy’s view, and it’s a step down that gets people killed right from the start (that’s an important note - working class people will always die for the benefit of their social betters, and it’s worrisome that Ed doesn’t give a single shit). It’s reasonable for Izzy to think that this flight of fancy Ed’s got himself into will result in Ed’s death and the death of the legend of Blackbeard which has served as their only route to a higher place of esteem. And this is all for a gentleman. Not an aristocrat. Stede is just a couple of notches up from trade, which somehow makes it worse because Ed has fallen for the first posho that’s shown him anything but disdain, and he doesn’t even have a title. The tragedy of Ed wanting to learn the ways of an aristocrat is that he’s not even learning from an aristocrat. It’s cosplay. Izzy knows that, Ed would know that if he had a clear head, and Stede knows that but is too naive to consider it a problem. Stede believes piracy equals freedom, and in a way he’s right. But that freedom comes with the price of death hanging over your head at all times. Stede can choose to walk into that world because he has the financial means of his class, and he can - however comedically - guard his class by calling himself The Gentleman Pirate and protesting that he’s working by different rules to all those other grubby guys. Even if Stede goes to jail for his crimes, he will be given better treatment, because he can buy it. (That’s how prison worked in 1717, you purchased bed, food, toiletries etc, and fuck you if you couldn’t afford it.) Ed and Izzy and their crew don’t have the same luxury in reverse. They have to guard their legendary status violently, because unlike gentleman or aristo status, it can be taken away. When Ed willingly signs himself away to the Crown and Izzy is visibly disgusted - “You want to lick the king’s boots?” - all of this is knocking around inside his angry little head. It’s revolting to him that Ed seemingly wants to capitulate to the class system and let himself fall to the bottom of the pile. He and Izzy have spent years together giving the class system the finger. And now this. Ed encapsulates the sadness of realising no matter how brilliant you are, you’ll never rise above the station of your birth. Izzy is the rage of knowing that.
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This is my favourite Wee John-Izzy interaction, but maybe not because of the reason you think. It's just that Izzy says "What's all this then?" and Wee John doesn't ignore him, he isn't sarcastic or dismissive (and lets be honest, he could have been because it's not like they were friends, he wasn't even part of the Kraken crew). He answers that question, and then the next one, patiently and kindly.
And yes, then he helps Izzy with his look, which is amazing, but what I love is the fact that Wee John was kind to Izzy and that kindness made Izzy open up and try new things, nice, soft things that he had never tried before. A bit of kindness can go a long way ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Izzy and Ricky scene script
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Izzy Hands and his fascination/love for candles.
He just wants to fix Blackbeard. That's why he takes his life in his hands by confronting Blackbeard; he just wants Blackbeard to be fixed, to find his soul again, [and] to find his heart again. Whether he's involved in that is not relevant. What's relevant is, he loves Blackbeard so much that he wants him to find himself again. So, it's never Izzy’s version of Blackbeard that Izzy’s looking for. He's looking for Blackbeard to find himself again, and that's only through Stede. - Con O'Neill
Rachel Leishman interview with Con O'Neill 22.11.2023
Rachel: Hi, Con. How are you?
Con: I'm very well, Rachel. How are you?
Rachel: I'm doing great. To start, so you've now joined the canon of I guess my favorite thing in TV is when people sing La Vie En Rose, because I loved when it happened in How I Met Your Mother and now it happened in Our Flag Means Death. And I was crying through both times. And so getting to kind of have those emotional moments that I didn't even care that the song didn't even exist, I was just happy it was happening. So getting to have those moments where you have those emotional kind of songs and journeys on a show that is outrageous and fun and quirky what for you as an actor is the joy of getting, you know, get to dive into something like that with a character like Izzy Hands that has had such a kind of arc, especially in Season Two.
Con: I knew he was going to go on a journey in Season Two because David had told me and I will be eternally grateful to him and his brilliant writers because they didn't make it sentimental. They didn't suddenly turn him overnight. They gave him a journey that I could work through emotionally and not feel like I was jumping ahead of myself or I was having to cheat. The song itself... had you asked me for a song for Izzy to sing, I would never, ever have picked La Vie En Rose. And now I can't think of any other song Izzy should sing. So again, that's down to David and also to all those people, my partner and Jenna, who's a friend of mine who just played PF in London, who helped me learn the French, which was excruciating for everyone involved.
Rachel: When I interviewed David, I said to him, I was like, you should be in jail for making me care so much about Izzy Hands throughout this whole season and then just put me in so much pain by the end because it was just such a beautiful arc from beginning to end this season. And I can only imagine as an actor the joy of kind of getting to dive into something that kind of rich, because...
Con: It is joyful, but it was incredibly lonely. I found myself spending a lot of time on my own, a) because a lot of the scenes are on my own, and b) if I wasn't filming, I was learning how to walk in that fucking leg, or I was sword training or I was working out or I was learning French or I was recording. It was a very solitary experience doing this season and I loved every minute of the work, but it was challenging on a whole other level that I didn't really think about until I found myself in the middle of it. And, yeah, I'm glad we did it and I'm glad we respected the character that we've created in Season One.
Rachel: And it is... I like, I really enjoyed because I think Taika's performance as Blackbeard especially. I love how kind of different it is because I'm a big fan of his work in general, but I do think it's very different from everything that I've seen from him. And I love the dynamic between Blackbeard and Izzy because that is something that I think as much as Steed and Blackbeard drive this show, without Izzy's love for Blackbeard, I don't necessarily think that relationship would be as strong as it is. And when you guys kind of have the arc you do in Season Two still cool to kind of have that final moment that we end up getting throughout in this show, for you two as actors to kind of in a comedy, get to have that emotional sobbing moment. You're comedians, but you're crying like having this kind of death scene on a beach. What is it for you two as actors and friends to kind of come to that moment where you're like, hey, we're still actors at the end of the day, but we're going to be sobbing on a beach over these two characters?
Con: You know what? I love working with Taika. I love acting with Taika. And Taika is a world renowned Oscar winning writer director actor, but he doesn't nearly get the plaudits he deserves as an actor. And the death scene in particular, I was dreading it because it's massive. And we were going to shoot it in the last week, at the start of the week, then the middle of the week, then the last day was going to be the morning of the last day. And then it ended up being the last thing we shot in the entire shop. And when you're filming something like that on the ship with hundreds of crew and the whole cast, and we're getting towards the end of the day and there's a lot of energy, and then suddenly it was just me and him. And if he hadn't given that to me, I was fucked. But he just held me in it and everything else disappeared. And we just trust the writing and we just do it. And he's a fucking awesome scene partner. There's a lot of good actors in that show, a lot of fucking great actors. But in that moment, I've never felt more collaborative and more trusted and more held than I have in probably my entire career.
Rachel: And you said collaborative. A show like this is kind of the joy of it, is that there are so many characters and it is such a collaborative show as a whole. And I think that's why fans love it as much as we do, because it's such a family unit. And for you as an actor, what is the kind of draw for you to a show like that that is so much a group of actors and comedians that are all kind of together, all on set, working as a unit?
Con: I'm a sporting actor. It's what I do. I like to work with an ensemble. It's how I do my best work. And the cast are sharp, witty, intelligent and also wonderful actors. So it's a no brainer for me. But also the show's... show is about love, and it's about queer love. And it's a show we should have been making a long time ago. It's a show that appreciates its audience and it's a show that is kind and none of our violence in our show is ever ever aimed at anyone for their gender or their sexuality. And we should be making queer of shows like this more. And that's what drew me to it. And when I saw... I was on set, when the boys in the first season, when they filmed the 'you wear fine things well' scene, and I watched it being shot and the beautiful performances and the beautiful dialogue and the way that it was being shot was exquisite. And I suddenly realized not only were we in this pirate show, but we were also in a romantic, queer love story that wasn't going to not be romantic. And I thought, there we are. That's it. That's what people are going to plug into.
Rachel: Yeah. Thank you so much for talking with me. This show means so much to me and people that I know and love. So thank you for talking with me.
Con: My pleasure.
Rachel: And I want more seasons of it. I love it so so so much.
Con: Thank you so much. Rachel.
Rachel: you have a great one.
Con: Take care. Bye bye.
Here As I Am
Fandom: Our Flag Means Death Pairing: Israel Hands & Edward Teach Word Count: 1610 Rating: Gen Summary: “It's not even that bad,” Ed says. “Stop,” Izzy protests weakly. “Stop! Stop it. Eddie, just-” Ed feels tears gather in his eyes, but he listens. For once in his life, he listens and stills his scurrying hands, waiting to hear whatever it is Izzy has to say to him. “Stop trying to save me. Stop pretending you care." Notes: Hello, hi. Mmmmmh........ so that ending, right? I didn't like it. I felt like it wasn't earned. So I wrote the set-up for a more tragic version of an ending that would lead to an entire arc of heart-wrenching internal conflict. I'm so much fun at parties. Title from "Because the Night" by Patti Smith
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