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Dream and Thessaly
I didn't particularly like the character of Thessaly in the comics, mainly because she played a big part in Dreams death, but it is too bad they didn't involve her in the show. In this panel Thessaly says to Dream that 'he cares too much about other people'. And if a meanie like Thessaly says it, it must be true.
Dream and Calliope
In the show, Calliope calls Dream for help after she learns that he is free, however in the comics it seems that there was no calling. Dream escaped his imprisonment and went to Calliope on his own accord (or at least, that's how I understand it?).
I LOVED the scenes with Dream and Calliope in S1 though! It was way more emotional and personal than in the comic. To me, the show also makes a bit more sense, because how could Dream know Calliope was imprisoned if she didn't call for help? But still, the fact that he shows up in the comic without being called upon, proves that he still cares about Calliope (the scene in the series proves this as well)!
Dream and Rose Walker
In te comics, Rose is attacked by Fun Land. She calls Morpheus for help (something Fiddlers' Green told her to do is case she got into trouble) and he shows up and saves her. Of course he would help her, right? Why wouldn't he? EXCEPT Rose was the Vortex and had to die in order for the Dreaming and Waking world to be safe. It is not entirely clear whether Fun Land would have actually killed Rose, but he could have. If Dream had been a jerk, he could have chosen not to intervene and his Vortex-problem could have been solved. (Except if it HAD to be Dream to kill the Vortex, I'm an bit unclear on that part). After he saves Rose, he leaves her be and tells her to heal and that he does not want to trouble her. She is unconscious at this point, so he could have killed her there and then, without any resistence from her and be done with it. BUT HE DOESN'T! He gives her more time (that she can spend with her brother). It was only when the Vortex truly began to manifest itself, that Dream decided it was time to kill her (which was then stopped by Unity of course).
I'm only a show watcher at the moment, and I know they went way off course with Dream and his ending, but I still think he's so kind.
He was an endless and had enormous power, and yes he used it to punish some people, but he was still kind. He was flawed and not the best example of a benevolent ruler, but the show made such a big deal over him being an ass, when they had shown he wasn't! And he wasn't the worst person even in the comicsssssss
I love him and I'm sad 😭😔😫
Absolutely! So many horrible characters (*cough*Desire*cough) yet somehow they made Dream seem worse!
Desire all mad about people dying as if he didn't father humans for dream to kill so he'd end up dead?! Ummmm?!!!?!?!?
@lildippah Right?? Desire literally wanted his great-granddaughter to get murderd by Dream! They had no reason to judge! Also, the whole clubfire thing, kinda Destructions fault I you ask me.
Dream and Rose Walker
In te comics, Rose is attacked by Fun Land. She calls Morpheus for help (something Fiddlers' Green told her to do is case she got into trouble) and he shows up and saves her. Of course he would help her, right? Why wouldn't he? EXCEPT Rose was the Vortex and had to die in order for the Dreaming and Waking world to be safe. It is not entirely clear whether Fun Land would have actually killed Rose, but he could have. If Dream had been a jerk, he could have chosen not to intervene and his Vortex-problem could have been solved. (Except if it HAD to be Dream to kill the Vortex, I'm an bit unclear on that part). After he saves Rose, he leaves her be and tells her to heal and that he does not want to trouble her. She is unconscious at this point, so he could have killed her there and then, without any resistence from her and be done with it. BUT HE DOESN'T! He gives her more time (that she can spend with her brother). It was only when the Vortex truly began to manifest itself, that Dream decided it was time to kill her (which was then stopped by Unity of course).
I'm only a show watcher at the moment, and I know they went way off course with Dream and his ending, but I still think he's so kind.
He was an endless and had enormous power, and yes he used it to punish some people, but he was still kind. He was flawed and not the best example of a benevolent ruler, but the show made such a big deal over him being an ass, when they had shown he wasn't! And he wasn't the worst person even in the comicsssssss
I love him and I'm sad 😭😔😫
Absolutely! So many horrible characters (*cough*Desire*cough) yet somehow they made Dream seem worse!
Dream and Rose Walker
In te comics, Rose is attacked by Fun Land. She calls Morpheus for help (something Fiddlers' Green told her to do is case she got into trouble) and he shows up and saves her. Of course he would help her, right? Why wouldn't he? EXCEPT Rose was the Vortex and had to die in order for the Dreaming and Waking world to be safe. It is not entirely clear whether Fun Land would have actually killed Rose, but he could have. If Dream had been a jerk, he could have chosen not to intervene and his Vortex-problem could have been solved. (Except if it HAD to be Dream to kill the Vortex, I'm an bit unclear on that part). After he saves Rose, he leaves her be and tells her to heal and that he does not want to trouble her. She is unconscious at this point, so he could have killed her there and then, without any resistence from her and be done with it. BUT HE DOESN'T! He gives her more time (that she can spend with her brother). It was only when the Vortex truly began to manifest itself, that Dream decided it was time to kill her (which was then stopped by Unity of course).
Dream and Choronzon
In the show: During the banquet, Azazel devoures Choronzon in front of Dream and he just watches. I did like this scene as it showed how merciless Azazel is and how Dream doesn't intervene in business that is not his. In the comics however Dream frees Choronzon! This gives us an entirely different view on the situation and on what kind of a being Dream really is.
Hmm. It's interesting how they glossed over that in the show. Dream made a big deal about protecting his guests, even intervening when Thor was fighting Choronzon in the dining hall. But he just sat there and let Azazel eat him a few hours later.
Maybe he was just angry/distracted by the audacity of Azazel trying to extort him via Nada?
I almost forgot about that! Bit of a plothole to be honest! Choronzon was indeed his guest as wel!
Dream and Choronzon
In the show: During the banquet, Azazel devoures Choronzon in front of Dream and he just watches. I did like this scene as it showed how merciless Azazel is and how Dream doesn't intervene in business that is not his. In the comics however Dream frees Choronzon! This gives us an entirely different view on the situation and on what kind of a being Dream really is.
I feel like Dream was portrayed quite negatively in S2 of The Sandman and I don't really understand why. Yes, he fucked up from time to time and he was proud en stubborn but he was also a kind person who cared deeply about others. So, I'm gonna share some moments that I loved in the comics that were not in the show. "Gently".
I think she knows why:
I think it's mostly her own fault that she ended up in Hell. I mean people go to hell only because they want to be punished and feel guilty
This was quite confusing in the show. Lucifer indeed stated that people condemn themselves and Dream asked Nada if she would rather condemn herself to an eternity of suffering than accept an eternity of his love and she choose the first, yet everyone (including Nada) later blamed him for her time in hell?? Or perhaps she did condemn herself but still needed his forgiveness to be free? I don't know.
Good Guy Dream
'Three Septembers and a January' is a comic that did not make it into The Sandman. It's about a man (Joshua Norton) who contemplates suicide, and is therefor accompanied by Despair. Despair decides to summon Dream and challenge him to redeem the man. At first, Dream refuses as he does not want to play games, but Despair coaxes him by saying that Desire and Delirium stand with her, that Dream thinks himself better than the rest of the Endless and blames him for the departure of Destruction. Despair states that Dream must keep Joshua in his realm (The Dreaming) and out of the others until Death comes for him. Dream gets to know Joshua through his dreams and gives him a new one: that he is the emperor of the US.
Years later, Joshua still believes this en becomes somewhat of a celebrity. He accepts 'taxes' (charity) from people and even gives them receipts for it. Delirium visits and accepts that even though he is delusional, it's 'his madness that keeps him sane'.
Desire tries to seduce the man with women but fails. Dream states that the emperor has dignity. Desire leaves furious with the promise to destroy their brother one day.
Joshua eventually succumbs to what seems like a heart attack and is taken by Death. Despair admits dat Dream has won the challenge.
I liked this comic as it shows more of the dynamic between the siblings, which we did not see enough of in the show. It also shows that Despair en definitely Desire had something against Dream for no real reason? Dream could have walked away but choose to give the man new purpose because he feels like he did not do enough to help Destruction. Ergo: he cares.
I feel like Dream was portrayed quite negatively in S2 of The Sandman and I don't really understand why. Yes, he fucked up from time to time and he was proud en stubborn but he was also a kind person who cared deeply about others. So, I'm gonna share some moments that I loved in the comics that were not in the show. "Gently".
All the times Dream apologized.
I kinda hated the statement from Fiddler's Green that 'Dream never apologizes' in the show, so here is a list of all the times that he did! Feel free to add more!
He apologizes to the Fates when asking more questions than is allowed.
He apologizes to Rose Walker for being obligated to kill her
He apologizes to Lyta when she has to say goodbye to her husband in the Dreaming
Not a literal apology but he remade Gault as a dream rather than letting her rot in the darkness for an eternity.
He apologizes to Nuala (well, he says 'Forgive me') for not remembering that she was at the Shakespeare play, even though, they were not introduced to each other.
He apologizes to Nada for her imprisonment in Hell (granted, he should have fixed this one a long time ago).
He apologizes to his sister for not being honest during their quest to find Destruction.
He apologizes to Hob for the people he has lost, even though this is not Dreams doing.
Good list!!
He apologizes to Del at the beginning of Brief Lives too. ("I've been somewhat distracted as of late. I'm not angry with you. I'm sorry.")
He apologizes to Despair when he slips into her realm in 2x8. ("Forgive me, sister." for accidentally slipping into her realm, and "I have not been the brother I should have been." for not visiting her more)
He apologizes to Alex Burgess (!!!!!!!!!!!!) when he frees him. (Alex: "I'm sorry... for what I did. And what I didn't do. I'm so sorry." Dream: "As am I. You are free.")
All the times Dream apologized.
I kinda hated the statement from Fiddler's Green that 'Dream never apologizes' in the show, so here is a list of all the times that he did! Feel free to add more!
He apologizes to the Fates when asking more questions than is allowed.
He apologizes to Rose Walker for being obligated to kill her
He apologizes to Lyta when she has to say goodbye to her husband in the Dreaming
Not a literal apology but he remade Gault as a dream rather than letting her rot in the darkness for an eternity.
He apologizes to Nuala (well, he says 'Forgive me') for not remembering that she was at the Shakespeare play, even though, they were not introduced to each other.
He apologizes to Nada for her imprisonment in Hell (granted, he should have fixed this one a long time ago).
He apologizes to his sister for not being honest during their quest to find Destruction.
He apologizes to Hob for the people he has lost, even though this is not Dreams doing.
