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i mean that really is got in a nutshell, it takes the book scenes and deprives them of context to be nothing but wow shocking gory or sexy scenes. so the red wedding which is the hinge on which the entire riverlands arc swings is shown on tv but purposefully in a way where ONLY the red wedding is shown and not it’s consequences. no personal arc for jaime, no growth in maturity & morality for brienne, no overreaching arc about the way the people of the riverlands have completely lost their faith in ~the social contract~ bc of the red wedding and are turning to all sorts of subterfuge, violence, and magic as a result of that loss, no point about how it always the most vulnerable, the youngest, our children and next generation that pay the steepest price for the ways we allow the oppressive structures around us to continue, and certainly no bringing the riverlands into the overreaching arc of magic returning. but we DID get to see the robbwind corpse, absolutely.
Gwendoline Christie in HBO's Naked & Exposed (S3E05, 2013)
He just needles her too far and she stands up before him—even putting aside all of Brienne's very deep and very painful complexities and insecurities about her body and being a woman—she stands before him naked and basically says 'Do not mess with me.'
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the way that jaime and brienne are created to be unobtainable to each other is so damned delicious
brienne is the embodiment of virtue. so naturally she thinks jaime is an utter reprobate. irredeemable. and if she didn’t already know more of jaime’s crimes than anyone else on earth, he makes sure she knows the ones no one else ever pinned on him, like rossart. but the thing is, he longs to be considered just. he is dying to be thought honorable.
it rarely comes up in his chapters, but everyone else in the universe knows that he could have basically any woman he wanted. the only time you hear him even vaguely imply it is with catelyn, but it’s a known thing. then he encounters brienne. and she sits there, judging him, obviously wishing she had an excuse to kill him herself. she is not playing hard to get, she actually is impossible for him to get. how could this honorless criminal hope to tempt her? she is beyond his reach.
then you have jaime. a legendary beauty. born the heir to a great house, the most powerful house. he is considered the greatest swordsman in the land. and to top it all off, he’s not only a member of the kingsguard but is the lord commander. he’s both what brienne wants to be and what she wants to fuck.
and he immediately confirms for brienne that he thinks what everyone thinks: she’s ugly. she’s a woman in breeches who fights like a knight, which is grounds for more than half the people she meets to disdain her. and the things that might make her an attractive mate to some men are meaningless to jaime—her inheritance is inconsequential to him, he gave away more power than her lesser house would ever possess. he’s completely out of her league.
so what happens when you tell someone that something’s off-limits? when you say: “them? you can never have them.”
Game of Thrones (2011 — 2019) 8.02 ‘A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms’
Brienne of Tarth ASOIAF as historical paintings (30/∞)
Art: Watchman, What of the Night? (prev. Joan of Arc) (circa 1867) by George Frederic Watts
“Ser Jaime?” Even in solid pink satin and torn lace, Brienne looked more like a man in a gown than a proper woman. “I am grateful, but….you were well away. Why come back?”
A dozen quips came to mind, each crueler than the one before, but Jaime only shrugged. “I dreamed of you,” he said.
Shes so beautiful to me *remembers that her ugliness is a vital piece of her character and also showcases the reality of how unattractive women are treated irl* i mean no she's not
I am grateful, but you were well away. Why come back?
A dozen quips came to mind, each crueler than the one before, but Jaime only shrugged. “I dreamed of you,” he said.
In regards to your Brienne post what do you think her endgame is going to be?
Other than her being knighted, I want her to live. I think she is the legacy of knighthood reconstructed. She is the conclusion to a question that was proposed in the narrative. Honestly, unpopular opinion, but I would want her to just go on her own way. I would like it to be vague. I want her to succeed in her primary goals: not fail to protect Jaime like she feels she did to Renly & Cat (and probably her father, think Tarth will fall and he will die too):
“I swore an oath to keep him safe,” she said to Rhaegar’s shade. “I swore a holy oath.”
“I swore to keep you safe,” the wench said stubbornly. “I swore an oath.” Naked, she raised her hands to Jaime. “Ser. Please. If you would be so good.” The steel links parted like silk. “A sword”
But in the end she failed him. Renly died in my arms
And when the shadow sword sliced through the green steel gorget and the blood began to flow, she saw that the dying king was not Renly after all but Jaime Lannister, and she had failed him.
She had failed Renly, had failed Lady Catelyn. She must not fail Jaime. He trusted me with his sword.
find the Stark sisters and return them home, and sing. At the end though, I would want her to no longer be tied to any of these people. If Jaime lives, I think he will take the black (whatever this will mean) and they will be separated forever. But she will still have Oathkeeper. I also think once she fulfilled her oath she should also not be tied to the Starks. After all:
"Will you drink red or white? Of indifferent vintage, I fear. Ser Amory drained Lady Whent's cellars nearly dry."
"I trust you killed him for it." Jaime slid into the offered seat quickly, so Bolton could not see how weak he was. "White is for Starks. I'll drink red like a good Lannister." (very funny considering the color symbolism that is happening with this man right now 🤭)
"I would prefer water," said Brienne.
I want her to be a knight, maybe continue traveling the land and help whoever is in need, or return to Tarth. Would not be crazy about her taking vows tying her to the service of anyone, even if it is Arya or Sansa. Wouldn’t want her to be a sworn sword or a Kingsguard for the rest of her life. I think that would not make the most of her potential. Her vow is to return them home, not to serve them for eternity. I want her to be her own knight, who is not loyal or tied to a single person or institution (even if those institutions are changed for the better, or if the person she serves is good) but loyal to the smallfolk that need her strength and protection. I think that is her real duty.
Jaime took one look and burst into song. "Six maids there were in a spring-fed pool . . ." Jamie III - Page 285
Our heroes travel through Maidenpool and see more carnage, most notably its famous pond being polluted by corpses. Naturally, Jamie has to open his big mouth.
It took me some time to decide how to do this picture before decided to have Jamie, Brienne, and Cleos riding in the foreground. Regrettably, there wasn't much room to show Maidenpool. It might be just as well. My best reference for medieval villages has been the paintings of Bruegel, and his villages are intact.
Could you expand on how Jaime will be removed from the King’s guard and what will happen when he is?
yes sort of!
So I think that Cersei will remove him, most likely after hearing via Qyburn/RonCon that Jaime and Brienne have a bit of a thing going on - I can’t find the post, but others observed a few years ago that RonCon is headed back to KL, and in conversation with Cersei may mention how he came about the big old bruise on his face. Qybs can meanwhile testify to the whole romcom airport dash that is Jaime’s race back to the bearpit. And I think someone mentioned Randyll Tarly might even have something to contribute here but I can’t remember what it is so.
Anyway all of this taken together, I think Cersei is going to for once leap to the correct conclusion - that JB are going canon - and decide Jaime can no longer be trusted, and so removes him from the KG. The pretext may be that she just states he’s dead already, it may be that Loras is proven to be alive after all and so there’s still a spot requires for undead Gregor, or it may be she just uses the Barristan Precedent and gets rid. Either way, Cersei believes she’d know when Jaime has died, so it won’t be a matter of her fearing him dead. She’s going to remove him because she considers him a traitor now.
As for where that sees Jaime’s arc turning - it’s a lot of internal stuff like I mentioned before, as Jaime’s arc is quite an inward looking one:
Firstly, it reconfigures his relationship with Tommen: Tommen is no longer the king he must serve but purely his son, and Jaime’s next steps in that relationship must be made as a father, not a glorified guard.
Secondly, it ends his “marriage” to Cersei (see prev post), and forces him to finally realise himself as an independent autonomous human being who must shape his own destiny (nice job jam you’re only 34)
Third, it reframes the legacy he’s pursuing - is he looking for glory to fill the white book with, or is he looking to do what’s right whether it’s on the record or no. It’s Jaime having to embrace his legacy as an individual rather than as a cog in an institution he doesn’t believe in
Fourth - I know this sounds like shipper talk but I honestly think the possibility remains on the table - it frees him up for marriage lol. Jaime has previously reflected that marriage is out of the question for him as a member of the KG, whether he wanted it or no. But as his romance with Brienne is realised there is no way someone like Jaime, who has been raised in a society that has marriage on the mind pretty much constantly, is not going to think: hey, I’m a single lord, she’s a single lady, we’re in love and I don’t want to dishonour her - therefore??? Like it’s not GOT, JB wouldn’t even have the language to describe an ONS/casual fling. Courtship and marriage go absolutely hand in hand in their world, that’s why Jaime couldn’t get marriage out of his mind w Cersei, against all logic and reason. So if his vow of perpetual bachelorhood is removed - yeah go figure
Regardless of how it all comes to pass, I basically just think it’s an absolute given that 1) Cersei will figure Jaime for a traitor and remove him from the KG, 2) Jaime will have an identity crisis. GRRM may have already written it….
I should never have fled.