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If you compare the Publication Dates, you will see how much Dickbabs relies on retcons at Dickkory's expense to survive.
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It’s honestly funny how Dickbabs shippers hype their pairing and frame it as if Dick and Barbara were integral to each other’s growth into Nightwing and Oracle when that connection was largely established through later retcons.
Dick first became Nightwing in 1984 without Barbara’s involvement and during that period, it was Kory he consistently credited for supporting him through that transition, all the way up to the mid-90s.
DickKory writers (Marv Wolfman and George Perez) created Nightwing, DickBabs had nothing to do with that.
And Barbara became Oracle in 1988 without Dick by her side, he was off with the Titans, away from Gotham and was with Kory the whole time. It was originally Bruce who stayed by Barbara's bedside after she got shot not Dick. Dick never interacted with Barbara from 1980-1994. They weren't that close. They only teamed up once or twice in 1970 and after that, they moved on and outgrew each other and never interacted again.
It wasn’t until around 1994, when Dick was reintegrated into the Bat-editorial sphere, that their history began to be rewritten, now retcons made it look like Dick was at Barbara's bedside after she got shot or that Dick can't function on his own as Nightwing without her help.
Every panel Dickbabs shippers use to back their argument is basically a retcon, patchwork storytelling dressed up as “history,” then presented like it was always planned that way. Smh.
Don't believe me? check this post I made where I posted comic panels and their publication dates for proof!
https://www.tumblr.com/thefreetruth/812874795066736640?source=share
We have another writer to add to the list who wanted to write something for DickKory in the comics but was shut down by editorial.
Previously, I talked about Tate admitting that editorial doesn’t want DickKory.
https://www.tumblr.com/thefreetruth/811498807685726208/the-writer-who-made-dick-and-kory-kiss-in-the?source=share
Now there’s another writer, Layman, who wrote Titans prior to Tate who confessed in a fan interview that he prefers Kory with Dick, and that he originally wanted to bring their daughter Nightstar from Kingdom Come.
First Tim Sheridan, Jonboy Meyers, Tate, and now Layman, huh?
If you still think that Dickkory not interacting that much for decades and DickBabs being shoved down people’s throats 24/7 isn’t an editorial mandate, then you’re turning a blind eye to what’s really going on behind the scenes.
At DC, editorial’s personal bias and abuse of power dictates the fate of the characters.
Bing a Nightwing by Tto_Richardz
Let's talk Art Trends.
I’ve noticed that whenever there’s a new ship art trend (Note : not all the time, just that sometimes) Dickbabs shippers never thought of drawing dickbabs on that trend until they saw a dickkory fanart being drawn on that trend. It always takes a Dickkory fanart participating in the trend first before they suddenly start asking artists to make a Dickbabs version.
The same thing happens with concepts. For example, they never thought about making a comedic fanart of Dick touching Babs’ boobs until that viral Dickkory fanart was shared where Dick was happily resting on Kory’s lap while grabbing her boobs. Only after that blew up did similar a similar idea start appearing for Dickbabs
Yes, other couples do that. Dickkory shippers are not claiming they own that concept but I just find it funny how Dickbabs shippers only started drawing dickbabs the same way after they saw dickkory being drawn that way and when they get asked about it, they start getting so pressed and being overly-defensive like bruh calm down lol to me the way they over-react just makes them look a bit guilty
At this point, it’s not even surprising that a Dickbabs shipper recently took a DickKory fanart from the billboard trend and edited it to make it look like Dickbabs. If anything, it just proves my point: they’re constantly trying to keep up with DickKory content and can be really insecure and jealous.
Lmao, a Dickbabs shipper literally stole a fan art from a Dickkory artist, drew over it, erased her signature and claim that they are the one who created the art.
https://www.tumblr.com/thefreetruth/810490948251418624/dickbabs-shippers-stole-an-art-from-a-dickkory?source=share
I posted this and When they got called out for being an asshole, the entire DickBabs shippers, one of whom is even a moderator of the Nightwing subreddit (so unprofessional and immature) took it as a personal attack on their fandom.
And instead of calling out one of their toxic members for stealing the art, they started making all these shitty posts against Dickkory shippers and making up random accusations that have nothing to do with the situation, even bringing up incidents from the past where they say DickKory shippers “claim everything,” just as a way to counter attack and make their fandom look better instead of addressing their own fandom’s recent BS. That’s honestly so funny.
They even brought up those official DickBabs covers that were edited into DickKory. But lmao, those two situations aren’t even comparable. First, those are official DC covers. DC paid those artists to create them and people don't need to actually credit the artist to share the official covers everywhere. Second, the original DickKory shippers (not the reposters) who edited them actually credited the original artists in their posts and admitted that the art was originally DickBabs and that they just wanted to see what it would look like if it were DickKory
That’s a huge difference from that DickBabs shipper who stole fan art from a DickKory artist (someone who doesn’t even work for DC) without her consent, erased her signature and then claimed it as their own art.
And lol the fact that they only brought up their issue with it after their fandom recently got caught stealing shows how much of a performative activists they are.
Once again, DickBabs shippers are showing their superiority complex. Instead of holding someone in their own fandom accountable for literally stealing a DickKory artist’s fan art and claiming it as their own, they immediately turned it into a “fandom war.”
Rather than addressing the actual problem, they started throwing out random irrelevant accusations about DickKory shippers just to deflect. It’s the same pattern every time: avoid accountability, play the victim and try to demonize the other side.
The irony is that this reaction says more about their mindset than anything else. When someone in their own circle does something wrong, the priority isn’t acknowledging it or calling it out, it’s protecting their fandom’s image at all costs.
That’s not accountability. That’s just a superiority complex mixed with a heavy dose of victim mentality.
Dickbabs shippers stole an art from a Dickkory artist and drew all over her art to make it seem like it's Barbara.
I swear dickbabs shippers are the most Pathetic Insecure Toxic Side of the Nightwing fandom
I know it’s just art but this behavior is honestly so pathetic. They have their own fan art, or they could make their own yet they still choose to steal from another fandom just to have something. It’s also extremely disrespectful to the artist. Fan art isn’t a joke, it takes hours, sometimes even days to create, only for someone else to take credit for it. They’re taking their hatred for the ship to an extreme.
Nightwing and Starfire by sydney_lee_00
When will Barbara fans and Dickbabs shippers acknowledge the toxicity of Barbara.
My Barbara looks like an outright asshole in this page and she also comes off as a cocky jerk. And nope This isn't "the writer just don't get her" issue, it's a character trait if this is how she's been consistenly written for 30 years prior to the Tom Taylor Era that manipulated people into thinking she's a sweet girl. Her bosiness, rudeness and unwarranted petty behavior was a recurring part of her character that has been gloss over by her fans.
https://www.tumblr.com/thefreetruth/745374047060230144/some-toxic-dickbabs-moments-that-happened-in?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/thefreetruth/801009824438632448/long-post?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/thefreetruth/753112250612678656/barbara-gordon-when-she-put-a-spy-camera-on-dicks?source=share
I’m saying this as a woman myself, stop using the word “misogyny” to excuse Barbara's awful behavior. Stop using it as a shield against fair criticism. Stop throwing it around just to avoid addressing the flaws and toxicity of your fave. You’re using misogyny as a coping mechanism because you can’t handle the fact that not everyone has to like her.
Look in the mirror and be honest with your hypocritical selves and admit that you don’t actually care about women as a whole. Your only goal is defending Barbara no matter how blatantly awful she is. Because if you truly cared, you’d be calling out pro-Dickbabs writers for slut-shaming and undermining Kory and other women of color just to prop Barbara up as “superior” to them but funny how you were so quiet about that and only get loud when someone mentions Barbara. Not only do you only fight for 1 single woman you cheer and support all the misogynistic pro-dickbabs panels as long as it elevates your ship. Admit you're a bunch of Selective Feminism who can't handle criticism against your fave.
When will Barbara fans and Dickbabs acknowledge how toxic and bullying they are.
I'm sorry but there is something wrong with them that needs help. They have become too mentally and emotionally attached to a fictional character to the point that they're making jokes about wanting real people to die if they don't like that dumbass fictional character. that they take criticism of a fictional character as a personal attack against them that they go around harassing and insuting real people as a form of revenge.
If Barbara is such a great character people will just naturally like her on their own but it's sad how her fans have to bully and guilt-trip people into liking her.
I'm sorry but maybe that character or ship is actually demonic-sent if it's causing you to lose your humanity and sympathy.
Thank you for proving how how dangerous fictional stuff can be and how mentally and emotionally alarming the Barbara fandom are.
I forgot to post this panel of Barbara being a misogynistic slutshaming asshole to Kara too. Smh, it's no wonder her fans act like entitled bitter bullies to people who refuse to worship her, they got that attitude from their fave.
the irony of calling people who don't like a character that loves slutshaming and putting down women who never did her wrong "misogynists" 🙄
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And btw, Barbara's excuse for being awful is that she was insecure of her looks. Once again, she’s making it all about herself instead of asking her victims how it felt to be mistreated by her. Being insecure doesn’t give you the right to treat everyone around you like your personal punching bag. Smh. You’re not the only one who’s been through shit. Kory was sold off by her psychotic sister and endured six years of torture and humiliation as a slave. Helena was forced to witness her parents being brutally murdered in front of her. Kara's planet and people get nuked and disappeared from existence. Cassandra was deprived of a normal childhood and had her ability to speak taken away by her abusive father. And yet Barbara’s only excuse for treating them like crap unprovoked is that she felt less "pretty and hot"
That’s a spoiled brat right there. And it’s crazy how her fans give her a free pass through personally insulting her critics, just so they can avoid addressing her behavior.
One of the reasons why I don't like Barbara Gordon.
Barbara dumbs down Dick Grayson and everyone around her.
I’ve never really been into Barbara especially when she’s Oracle because to me she mostly exists to hold other characters back. Whenever she’s around, it feels like she’s hovering over fully grown heroes, monitoring their every move as if they’re little kids who can’t be trusted to think for themselves. Instead of helping, she actually makes them look less capable.
The bigger issue is that she doesn’t feel necessary anymore. Sure, in the 90s, Oracle made sense. Technology wasn’t what it is now and Barbara filling the computer genius role covered a gap no one else did.
But today? In a world where every hero has access to advanced technology, search engines far beyond regular AI, off-world databases and their own communication systems (phones, computers, laptops, earpieces, etc.) her skills don’t feel unique. Most heroes could do their own research and contact each other directly without Barbara acting as a middleman.
And that’s what really bugs me, she feels intrusive. Instead of letting other heroes research and communicate on their own, suddenly everything has to go through Oracle first. It’s like she hijacks the communication lines and makes herself the central hub even when it isn’t needed. She slows down everyone around her.
Grab two Batman comics : One where Oracle shows up and one where she doesn’t. You’ll notice immediately that they feel like two completely different Batmans. In the story without Oracle, Bruce is using his own Bat-computer in the Batcave, doing his own detective work and relying on his own skills and gadgets to solve the mission. But in the one where Oracle is involved, he suddenly looks helpless, waiting for Barbara to dig up information for him as if he can’t figure out his own enemies anymore. Even a simple Google-level research seems impossible for him to do
And it’s not just Batman. This happens to other heroes too like Nightwing whose IQ gets chopped in half and whose tech skills are erased whenever he’s in a relationship with her. He’s written as the himbo jock boyfriend while she’s the smarter, more serious girlfriend.
Dickbabs is such a regressive ship. Dick became Nightwing to be his own man because he was sick and tired of being treated as just a sidekick, only for Barbara to monitor him through her computer and invade his privacy (putting a camera in his mask and listening to his private conversations with other people in his earpiece) as if he’s still a kid who needs surveillance.
Writers will dumb characters down or strip away their independence just so Barbara can shine as Oracle. Instead of showing them as competent and resourceful in their own way, they’re made to look like they need her guidance which makes her stand out at everyone else’s expense.
Also, heroes are supposed to be mostly about action. They fight villains face-to-face, relying on their instincts and skills. The idea that they need Oracle’s Wi-Fi and internet connection to solve a crime just feels corny.
Imagine this in real life: a police officer is chasing a robber. Now grab your laptop or computer and turn on your Wi-Fi while you are at home. How exactly would your laptop and Wi-Fi help capture the criminal? That is so useless.
They say Oracle is useful because she has access to CCTVs (but other heroes don’t?) but think about this: remember that child who was sent to jail for hacking and releasing info about GTA 6? Barbara does way more serious things than that.
If we drop the “comic book logic” shield and judge Barbara Gordon as Oracle under real-world law, she would absolutely be considered a criminal in most modern legal systems. She constantly hacks into systems she has no legal access to (government databases, police files, private companies and city-wide CCTV networks.) It doesn’t matter that she’s trying to help, unauthorized access is still illegal.
On top of that, she runs mass surveillance on civilians without warrants or consent, tracking people who aren’t even suspects. In real life, even governments need court approval to do that. A private citizen secretly monitoring everyone especially without consent would be committing serious privacy violations. She abuses her skills, She even put a spy camera in Dick’s house without his knowledge just so she could watch him naked, she literally committed a sexual crime called voyeurism.
Overall, she’s the most unnecessary, redundant interloper. Even if heroes need tech support, they already have their own gadgets and resources. The Titans have installed huge computers at their Tower, not to mention they have Cyborg too and the Justice League has the Watchtower that even has alien/outworld high advanced technologies. Every single hero has their own phone and communicator. It’s just sad that they rarely get to use them because Barbara is positioned as the sole tech expert and information broker.
This is why I prefer Dickkory. Dick can be as smart and tech-savvy as he wants when he is with Kory since technology isn’t Kory’s niche. They have their own unique skills. Kory relies on her flight and her starbolts and she’s more emotional while Dick is more logical and relies on his martial arts and tech skills.
Dick and Barbara are too similar so they have to hold back the other just so one can shine.
Honestly, Oracle would work better if she is on her own space with her own supporting cast. That way, she could mind her own business. I don’t need to see her sidelining/dumbing down other heroes just to make herself look important or using them for clout. Crazy how she keeps showing up in books that have nothing to do with her just to steal the spotlight from the main character like in Nightwing and Starfire's Tales of the New Titans solo issue. She's like a leech that won't go away and keep sucking the life of other characters. Heck, she wasn't even originally part of the Batgirls and new BOP pitch, she just got shoehorned halfway through in those books and what happened after she showed up? She started babysitting the main characters. The worse thing that happened was in Tom Taylor's Titans run where Cyborg also got sidelined as the main tech support of the group so she can steal his job (also we know the reason why she was in the Titans, it's because of Dick, she literally won't stop following him around like a dog everywhere he goes and overriding his own agency.)
To me, she just feels like a white woman glorified for doing the bare minimum (it's really not that hard to use a computer, do research or call someone) and backed up by her sensitive fanbase who can't handle an opinion without going spiral.
I’ve seen Dickbabs shippers use this meme against Dickkory shippers so I made a different version for them.
They love to act like they’re saints and morally superior, lecturing fans who don’t like Barbara while ignoring the fact that their DickBabs ship was literally built on tearing down Starfire through misogyny, racism and slut-shaming in the comics and Most of them are completely silent about that but if you say a single word about their fave, they spiral.
Not to mention how they've harassed and bullied many real people too just for their opinion about a dumbass white fictional character.
Hypocrites and Performative Activists need self awareness too.
What I would do to Nightwing and Starfire if I am the Head of DC and Warner Bros. (Dickkory shippers, feel free to share your ideas)
I don’t know if this sounds petty but after how the Bat-editorial writers treated Dickkory for decades, I honestly have no sympathy left anymore.
So if I were in charge, this is what I would do.
First, I would break up Dick and Barbara. I would make their conversation center on Barbara realizing that she has become defined by her relationship with Dick. She would come to understand that she lost a lot of her own individuality trying to fit into his world (leaving her father, her own hobbies, and her own career in Gotham just to move to Bludhaven, stay stuck in his apartment all day and follow him around like a dog everywhere he goes, getting called “Girl-Nightwing” by the Bludhaven citizens, etc.)
At the same time, Dick would also have his own realization. He would acknowledge that the relationship has also dumbed him down and caused him to grow overly reliant on Barbara as a solo hero (partly because she always overrides his agency by unnecessarily babysitting and monitoring him on her computer in every mission he takes). The relationship has basically turned into an unhealthy codependency for both sides.
They would understand the problem and realize they are better people when they are not together, so the breakup would be mutual and calm. They hug and part ways but they promise to stay friendly exes.
Barbara would return to Gotham permanently (or go back to Burnside) and finally do something to restore her independence. I would give her a solo comic focused entirely on rebuilding her agency. This means no Batfamily stories, just her own story as a separate character. She would also become very close with her father again. Then I’d make her use her law degree to apply for a job in law or politics. She could be a lawyer, a judge or even a congresswoman who works in the U.S. House of Representatives like she originally was, fighting for people’s rights. At the same time she’s also a librarian. Her love interest is definitely someone outside the Batfamily like Ted Kord.
The Barbara solo would never get cancelled until people are finally used to the idea of her being separated from Dick because previous runs like Tom Taylor’s really ruined damaged her character and ruined the public’s perception of her. She is written as mostly just an extension of Nightwing nowadays. I would change her costume too since her current Batgirl costume is visually tied to Dick. I prefer her original black and yellow costume since that one makes her look more mature and independent.
(Some will accuse this of Dickbabs erasure but I believe Barbara needs to restore her reputation as a solo hero after years of being attached to Dick’s hip nonstop. Plus, Dickbabs already had decades of content and exposure anyway. They already had their moment. I think now is the right time to let Dickkory have their time to shine.)
In Nightwing’s solo comic, I would have Dick operate completely on his own like he should since I’m tired of him not doing anything on his own in his own book for more than 5 now (Barbara is always around monitoring him every single issue. Ugh, it’s really hurting his character and book just for the sake of shipping imo). So no other heroes taking up space, just Dick Grayson alone standing on his own as Nightwing. I would also restore his tech skills that were erased just so Barbara can have something to do. He needs to be established as an intelligent person and a great hacker and tech user not a himbo who constantly needs Barbara’s tech support to survive. He should rely on his own gadgets/ equipment and resources. The Nightwing solo should only on Dick as an individual and competent hero.
But in the Titans book, I’d slowly rebuild Dick and Kory’s relationship but strictly as friends at first for one to two years. Their bond should naturally develop through friendly, meaningful interactions and stories so they should laugh, hang out, eat together, give each other advice, discuss work missions, comfort each other when they have problems and be there when the other needs support. The focus would be on friendship and acknowledging that they are important to each other and have a shared history no romance yet. Their friendship and connection which DC minimized and erased for decades need to be restored first.
After 1-2 years, both of them would realize they’re falling in love with each other again. Dick would be the first to confess his feelings after a dangerous mission that nearly killed Kory (a throwback to what led up to them becoming a real couple in NTT). Kory would be hesitant at first because she has trauma. (Her sister betraying her, her parents just watching and letting her get taken away from her enslavers and her 1st break up with Dick) She trusts Dick as a friend but not as a lover. She’s scared the relationship will fail again but Dick is persistent and promises to earn her trust. She would later agree to try again on the condition that they take things slowly. They would go on dates, have flirty banter and then officially become a couple.
But Kory won't move to Bludhaven. Instead, I'd keep them in a long-distance relationship in Nightwing’s book so In Nightwing’s solo, Dick would still work alone and Kory would only be referenced through calls, video chats, and rare visits but In Titans they would still be physically together all the time.
Eventually, I would give Starfire her own solo comic. Leading up to this, Kory would tell Dick and the Titans that she needs to go on an important solo mission in a different city but After she goes there, due to circumstances, she finds out that she has no other choice but to stay there permanently for the safety of the people. She'd have her own house, meet her own friends and build her own agency there. She'd also have her own career back which is her being a famous supermodel with many fans. She would be the main star in her own city.
When she informs Dick that she’s leaving the Titans and moving there, it would be an emotional goodbye for the team but Dick would commit to making their relationship work. Dick would travel to her city just to see her which would then lead to him becoming one of her supporting characters in her solo.
(Yes, I know it doesn’t make sense that Dick is in Kory’s city while still operating in Bludhaven in his own book but that kind of place/timeline inconsistency already exists in current comics 😅. If you read the current Titans comics, you'd see that Dick is with the Titans but if you read his solo, he’s only with Barbara so let’s do the same thing here.)
So yeah, in Nightwing’s solo, Dick works alone with only mentions or references to Kory.
In Starfire’s solo, Dick appears as a supporting character depending on the story arc.
They would date for 5 years before Dick proposes and then they would get married.
After that, I’d launch a new comic titled Nightwing and Starfire. In this book, Dick and Kory are a married couple who choose one city as their main home (either Bludhaven or Kory’s city) but they also travel to other cities and countries, going on superhero adventures around the globe together. I also like the idea of them building trusted orphanages (given the fact that Dick was an orphan) and running an anti-human abuse/trafficking operation (given the fact that Kory was a slave)
But I would not cancel Nightwing’s and Starfire’s solo comics. They would remain ongoing and mainly focused on them as individuals. In Nightwing’s solo, most of the time Dick still operates alone in his story arcs while Kory is either in space (working on missions with the Justice League) or in other countries (since models do photoshoots and runways in places like Italy or France) or busy doing other things that would be shown in her own solo comic.
So there would be three books: a Nightwing solo, a Starfire solo and a duo book for them.
I'd also definitely produce a lot of Dickkory variant covers.
After the comic book stuff, I’d greenlight a Nightwing and Starfire animated series where they’re already an established married couple and have kids (Mar’i, Jake, and a third baby) so They’d be like DC’s version of The Incredibles, a family of superheroes. Dickkory kids would also have their own circle of friends like the Titans kids Lian Harper and Iris West.
Damian would also be a supporting character, but he wouldn’t be older than Mar’i. He’d be the same age as her.
Overall, I know this would never happen because I don’t work for DC lol but hey if there’s anyone here who is or will potentially become a DC writer or DC employee someday and wants to do the same thing for DickKory, if DC gives you the authority to change the status quo or write an Elseworlds story for them, feel free to take any of my ideas here. I just really want them back together again
Nightwing and Starfire by beastboyrobin_blog
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