I Never Thought I'd Love TJ, But Here We Are

Andi Mack blog. I write lots and lots of theories and analyses, so just be prepared

[mariailoveyou-guerin]

‪the amount of Winston Monty, Winston Alex, Alex Charlie edits video recommendations I get daily and not one Caleb and Tony I know the fandom is racist and trash but YouTube editors and video makers too are the worst y’all just love all and any white mlm ship be it canon or fanon I’m so over it!‬ anyways superior ship on 13rw why is and has always been Tony an Caleb!

the lgbtq community is garbage too for their racism and white straight woman fetching mlm

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Tony and Caleb were treated more like roommates who happened to kiss a few times, by the end. They didn’t get anything near what they deserved, and it’s really really disappointing. Their relationship has always been sidelined since they got together.

I straight up wasn’t sure they were still together this season until I saw one bed in the apartment. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Have you checked out a show called Never Have I Ever? I think you would enjoy it

I have! I thought it was great.

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Now I’m sad

Next season they were going to make about going to b’nai mitzvot and how big a part of 7th grade that is for schools in Jewish communities. 

And realistically the show isn’t getting a second season. 

That sucks. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

I find it pretty hard to believe that every tv show is going to be off air for 2 years.

No, that’s not what I mean. I mean that shows that studios are already rented and soundstages as well. Things are going to be piled up. Shows that are not yet on the books are not coming back cause there is barely going to be room for shows that are. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

just wondering where you heard this would be going on for a year and half? everything i've seen has said if you get the virus it lasts two weeks and the estimates are this will be a problem for a few months but i haven't seen anything say it would take as long as you said for the world to get back to normal.

My dad reads literally everything and he told me. I’ll ask him for the article and get back to you in a couple hours. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Guys, stop

DOAFP is over. 

So is literally every other show currently or just finished filming. 

Realistically, if we can't get a vaccine, we are probably in this for around 18 months. 

Shows are not coming back. 

Take your time and energy to do other things like help end ICE detention centers or help America get our President out of office. 

DOAFP is great, and changed how Disney does a lot of things, but even if it was renewed, we’re probably looking at 2+ years till it would be able to film. 

Sorry, that’s just the facts now. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Monyca totally knew he was dumping her for Liam. 

Also....is anyone noticing that Bobby seems to have more screentime than Elena?

[chaneilkular]

I’m like, three (3) hot takes into the doafp tag and I’m already annoyed: can we not enjoy some delicious gay treats now and then without writing essays on how it doesn’t matter if bobby and liam end up together… like, if d*sney doesn’t deliver, that’s on them - and their history of homophobic microagressions and neglect is… fucking there? and I refuse to applaud them for doing barely anything… like, we’ve been there, we hated it, we’ve seen enough… like, give us gay couples or get guillotined

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

You proved the entire point. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Hi! I was just curious about what you meant when you said in one of your reblogs that Bobby knows he's gay and in love with Liam? From what I've gathered he seems to be a bit confused about it? I'm assuming he has some idea about what he's feeling but he still looks to be struggling with it quite a bit (and also maybe struggling with some internalised homophobia). Interested to hear your point of view!! 💖

He didn’t seem confused at the hair dresser. He seemed confused before and after, but not there. Which means he’s faking his confusion. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Y-you have an 18+ doafp server? 🥺 I didn’t know other adults liked the show - besides my sister and mom. We watch it together because it’s so cuteee

Yeah! A lot of us are curious how Disney is turning out, honestly. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Created a DOTFP server on Discord. 

Message me if you want to join. 

18+ please. 

And if you think that Bobby’s storyline doesn’t matter when Liam isn’t in it, don’t join. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

Even though i am so 99% sure they will I hope to god this fandom doesnt do the "Bobbys sexuality wasnt mentioned this episode? That means they will never mention it ever again" thing

They will. And Bobby’s sexuality only matters when Liam is there to them as well. It sucks. 

Bobby is groundbreaking not just on Disney. There has never been a character like Bobby on TV period, though real life people are more like Bobby than Jude or Cyrus. 

But it won’t matter. The fandom won’t care, and that sucks. 

If anyone is interested in joining a mature discord, message me. But you can only join if you understand the importance of this storyline with or without Liam. 

[secretly-of-course]

Look I am already seeing some people start to hate on Elena and I am not here for it.

You guys did this with Andi too. It wasn’t cool then and it’s not cool now.

Like Andi, Elena is in middle school. She still has A LOT to learn about the world, herself, and the people around her. Yes, Elena treated Sasha poorly. Yes, Sasha had every right to stand up for herself. No, Elena is not unlikeable or a bad person because of that.

Some of you guys love to hate on our girls for having realistic flaws. You’ve clearly forgotten what it felt like to be their age. We all cringe at the things we did in middle school. Elena doesn’t understand yet how her behavior is affecting others, but she can and will learn, and we need to give her the space to do that.

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

That’s the thing though. Sasha is very able to stand up for herself, and Elena is completely shitting on her. AND BOTH ARE TWEENS And Disney always does this. There are other traits they could focus on that are negative, but it’s always the selfish/self-involved. And it doesn’t make me want to like the character. 

[lenalmao]

The ways in which I theorized almost exactly the whole plot of episode 8 is so crazy to me. And then I wanted to include some of the things that were in the episode in my theory but I didn’t because didn’t think disney would actually be bold enough to have Monyca tell Bobby that he seems like he cares about Liam more than her. I also didn’t think they would leave the argument between Liam and Bobby unresolved because then they would have to dedicate some more screen time just to them making up, but they’re freaking doing it. They’re gonna give us Bobby and Liam making up after their first fight I am TRANSCENDING.

Screenshot of part of the theory I’m referring to:

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

The only thing you got wrong is that bobby isn’t actually confused about his feelings. He clearly knows he’s gay and in love with Liam. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

STOP ACTING LIKE BOBBY’S STORY ONLY MATTERS WHEN LIAM IS THERE

Bobby is in love. 

Not the slow love that TJ and Cyrus had, not the whatever that Connor and Jude had, no, this is fast and he’s falling hard and he’s acting like a typical middle schooler. 

THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. On any show, let alone a Disney one.

The only comparison I can make is Cody and Bailey who were in high school. It didn’t happen on Wizards, it didn’t happen on Hannah Montana, it didn’t happen on Sonny with a Chance. Maybe it’s happening now, I don’t watch anymore, but again, those weren’t even middle schoolers. 

This time Disney is going for realistic, AND THEY DON”T CARE ABOUT THE SEXUALITY, and that’s HUGE. 

This development happens even when Liam isn’t in an episode. So stop saying next episode isn’t gay enough or whatever. 

Unless Bobby isn’t in an episode, it’s gay, cause Bobby is gay, and discovering his attractions, that actually go beyond personality. He blushed when Liam was physically attracted to him (or when he perceived it that way). No show has done that before with gay middle schoolers. Only two other shows have had gay middle schoolers. 

So stop. It’s a big deal regardless of if they get together or not. Bobby is gay whether they get together or not. Bobby is a gay middle schooler who is having his first major life-altering crush, and that’s the bottom line. 

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

i don't think liam's straight either, especially because they lingered on him looking at bobby after the fight

I straight-up thought that Bobby was going to kiss him. Like he’s that head over heels and lacking judgement, I totally thought that was going to happen. 

This is like Cody and Bailey level infatuation. Disney hasn’t done this in a really really long time. 

Imagine Bobby getting help from Elena on a 6 month plan. Can someone write that? Please?

[notsoscarybasketballguy]

For any degrassi fan, 

Do Bobby and Liam remind you of Triles? Not in who they are, but in the potential for a relationship. Bobby’s reaction to Liam dancing with a girl reminded me of Tristan’s reaction to Miles kissing Maya in Paris. 

I don’t know, might be nothing.