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Literally me when some douche canoe shit talks Wendy Darling
As much as I agree wholeheartedly with the anti TLJ community on what an utter piece of horrendously written crap the movie was, and have found a lot of the discussion picking TLJ apart the past two months extremely therapeutic as a Star Wars fan, I keep having the misfortune of running into people who unnecessarily insist on (a)treating animal cruelty as one big fucking joke and (b) acting like ANY relationship with an age difference is akin to rape/pedophilia. And it REALLY grosses me the fuck out.
Animals being less intelligent than us doesn’t make them any less sentient or lacking of feelings. It isn’t somehow ‘more okay’ to hurt and abuse them for our own selfish gains than other humans. They don’t just exist purely for our pleasure. Take that bullshit sense of supremacy and shove it up your ass.
And before any of y’all @ me: I WAS fucking grossed out that Rose and Finn did fuck all for the slave children. But so many of you are acting like the fauthiers’ physical abuse and utter misery on that goddamn casino planet was ‘no big deal’, who cares? Animal cruelty is just a part of life, why bother trying to stop it?????? Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck all of you. Rose was NOT ‘silly’ for empathizing with and wanting to help them. Just like real life animal activists aren’t silly for dedicating their lives to saving creatures all you anthropocentric morherfuckers have the privilege of treating as an afterthought of existence. What fucking sad examples of humanity and what it should mean to be ‘humane’. I’ve seen some of y’all express more sympathy for the fucking Millenium Falcon toy Rian Johnson broke as a kid. Let that sink in.
Moving on to the other point: as an 18 year old woman recently married to the most tender, supportive, considerate, and selfless man I have ever known and who also happens to be TWENTY YEARS her senior, I would personally like to invite everyone listing off AgE DiFFeReNCE!!!1!! as one of the reasons Reylo is a horrendous dynamic (as if a fellow 19 year old isn’t just as capable of kidnapping, torturing, or emotionally manipulating Rey) to kiss my fucking ass.
Rey is not a little girl, neither physically nor emotionally. She has worked her ASS off every miserable day of her life since the age of five just to survive: I’m supposed to believe that doesn’t mature the living HELL out of someone from a seriously young age? Maybe if I never met real people in similar situations: unfortunately far too many of the womem in my family were forced to find creative ways to make money from young ages for me to conveniently pretend that all 19 year olds have the luxury of emotional immaturity. Which would be a gross concept anyway (as far as I know most 19 year olds in the West are expected to be able to strike out on their own/hold down a job WHILE going to school/make career path decisions that will affect their entire futures and yet they can’t *possibly* be trusted to intelligently choose to be with an older man? Super).
Also, can I just say I don’t know WHERE this notion came from that Rey’s lived like a completely isolated hermit on Jakku and is thus socially ‘stunted’ and vulnerable because if that were true, how the hell did she learn to speak a fuck ton of different alien languages peeps???? (you don’t get that fluent just reading print in other languages off a computer). Jesus, she’s not some helpless little girl. At 19 years old you are a WOMAN so stop fucking infantalizing her, and for God’s sake stop acting like ANY relationship she could potentially get into with an older individual would be inherently predatory. There isn’t ONE crime Kylo committed against Rey that was strictly limited to their difference in age. To suggest THAT was the reason is to disregard the experience of every woman raped in their dorm by a fellow sophomore, EVERY woman who was ever physically abused/gaslighted/emotionally manipulated by someone the world arbitrarily decided was ‘age appropriate’ for her. It’s fucking NONSENSE and willfully disregards how people actually fucking work.
Yes, relationships with an age gap have the POTENTIAL for power imbalance, I’d never dispute that. But it is by no means inherent in all of them and I AM LIVING PROOF OF THAT. Fuck you for disregarding my experiences AND my marriage. You’re obsession with keeping every depiction of love ‘age appropriate’ as if people like me and my husband don’t deserve any representation at all and instead should be treated as some kind of abherency that needs to be deterred for EVERYONE (because of course all people are somehow mentally and emotionally on the same level as long as they’re the same age) is sick. WE DON’T ALL LIVE IN THE SAME BOX YOU’VE MADE YOUR HOUSE IN, STOP EXPECTING US TO.
P.S. all y’all acting like Leia/Holdo fetishizing a man they’d just tased into unconsciousness would be somehow less creepy if he were as old as them are being gross. It’s all creepy. Fetischizing ANYONE’S abuse is goddamn creepy, being the same age doesn’t make it any “less” gross as hell. Stop being so willfully goddamn ignorant, fuckwads.
The assumptions these people have to make about how reality actually works truly boggles the mind.
Like clearly they’re book smart because they understand quite clearly what constitutes good/bad writing and can articulate it spectacularly. But you can tell they have never spent a hot minute in a pet rescue, have never had to look an animal in the eye whose entire life up to that point had been marked by at best neglect and worse torture/abuse by their humans for ‘funsies’. I have. The scenes with the fauthiers, however poorly executed, weren’t funny for me. Because I’ve seen that type of shit before and it isn’t ‘no big deal’. Funny how these people pride themselves on being so hip about ‘social justice’. Lol, yeah only for their own kind. How groundbreaking...
Forget ever even encountering people like you and your hubby in real life, oh no. They’ve mentally written off people like you a looooooong time ago. People like you are all immature little teenage girls with daddy issues: incapable of knowing what you REALLY want at your age and have been ‘entrapped’ by some older pervert who only wants you for your body. You just can’t see it yet, poor thing. Good thing they all know what’s best for you...
You wish to reform the world: reform yourself, otherwise your efforts will be in vain.
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In another world we shall understand it all.
Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina (via books-n-quotes)
if someone protests how atom driver has ‘anxiety’ one more time after someone calls him ugly On Line i’m gonna lose it
None of these people were there for when John Boyega was attacked just for being a black man in a trailer, or when Daisy (who also has anxiety) was run off IG bc reylos couldn’t stop being racist in the comments abt Finn + Rey, or when Kellie Marie Tran experienced racism for being Asian.
It’s almost like this “support mentally ill people” comes with “as long as they’re white men” or something
BOOOM
Honestly? Support all the cast of the SW films. Wanna get angry? Get mad at the writers, directors, and producers. The actors are trying to do their jobs (pretty well, might I add, even in Adam Driver’s case, at least with the writing and direction they’ve got.)
This is all mainly a thing bc some of Adam’s stans can’t get over the memes about the shirtless scene… and no, I won’t protect Adam from that…. (bc also in the end… who made it look that ridiculous? ah, his name starts with R and ends with N) I am all for not shitting on the actors for any of the storyline decisions etc. bc it’s not their fault, but this fandom’s need to protect Adam Driver from any joke or criticism when the other actors had to deal with what I’d even call online harassment on their personal social media accounts - to a degree by fans who belong into the same side of the fandom as those who function as Adam’s personal fandom lawyers… - does simply not stand in relation to what is actually happening. (in this particular case I find it very interesting that these fans mention Adam’s anxiety day and night but never seem to talk about Daisy’s, even though they keep acting like both actors and characters are their equal favs … )
So because other people who are in no way affiliated with and were in no way encouraged by Adam Driver were utter asshats to Daisy and co. somehow magically give y’all the right to turn around and be utter asshats to him about his looks, aka something he can’t even fucking help.
Bravo tumblr. So progressive. So socially just. 10/10. Gold stars all around. Y’all so woke. Keep fighting the good fight.
“A religion true to its nature must…be concerned about man’s social conditions. Religion deals with both earth and heaven, both time and eternity. Religion operates not only on the vertical plane but also on the horizontal. It seeks not only to integrate men with God but to integrate men with men and each man with himself.
Martin Luther King Jr., “Stride Toward Freedom”.
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#this#right here#is why i hate that 'imagine christianity isn't about the afterlife' quote#because it presupposes it can ONLY be about life here OR beyond the veil#you apparently can't seek to improve this oppressively corrupt world#while still being even the least bit mindful#that maybe just maybe it's only one stop on the eternal journey#(albeit a very important one)#imagine reverend king is right and it's actually about BOTH at the same damn time guys#and that each is inexorably tied to the other#because that's how the divine works#bringing the seemingly disparate pieces of existence together into eventual harmony#okay i'm done#shut up marcus borg (@roseandpaigetico)
Honestly all of the people who are JUST NOW realizing that Rian and LucasFilm haven’t actually obligated themselves to bringing any of our metas to fruition, throwing temper tantrums in response and dragging his and KK’s names through the mud (when they’re not badgering him and Pablo to backtrack on the amount of creative control each director has, i.e. LIE), seriouuuuuusly need to take a leaf out of my girl Wendy Darling’s book and learn how to grow the hell up.
THIS, right here, is as accurate a representation of what Rumpelstiltskin and his BA fans do to Belle whenever she stands up to him/fights back against his gaslighting,stalking, and just overall physically violating behaviors.
I shudder to think how much harder they’re going to do it when the show returns and she’s not with Rumple for one reason or another. IT’S SICK. And they ought to be ashamed of themselves.
A couple examples that come to mind are violetfaust, who characterizes Belle’s trying to escape with her baby as “running away from her problems” (I wonder what she would tell a friend looking for help trying to flee a stalking ex-husband); oceanofdarkness who victim-blames Belle EVERY TIME she stands up for her agency because it apparently contributes to Rumple’s “abandonment issues” (as if that’s Belle’s responsibility to sacrifice her happiness to appease and, you know, not Rumple’s to get help for).
This is IN ADDITION to her victim-blaming of Neal for not falling straight into his father’s arms when they were first reunited, because it’s unreasonable of him to still be mad that he spent 200 years alone in hellish Neverland because of his father choosing power over him, and then another 30-odd years fending for himself on the streets. Don’t get me started on the hissy fit she threw at poor Wendy, a 13-year girl trapped in a cage for 100 years, under the control of a sociopath who regularly pitted children against each other and, in her special case, was threatening to execute her brothers at any given time if she didn’t do what he said. All purely because Neal gave her a hug when they were first reunited (having no idea at that time about Pan’s plan with Henry) but didn’t do the same for the man who wanted to turn him back into a fucking child 5 minutes into their reunion. Fucking sickening.
There are plenty others who also go around trolling every pro-Belle confession post, working overtime trying to present BELLE as an emotional abuser. Because they read Rumple as having mental illness (even though they are not trained psychologists and are not fit to diagnose that, never mind that the writers have never acknowledged this to be the case) they think that this is some protective ‘bubble’ to shield him from his victims ever fighting back/calling him out when he’s being a sniveling, power-mad piece of shit. Even in Belle’s case when she’s only done it to try and get him to stop threatening their unborn baby (not that these people care about context, mind you. In fact I don’t even think they pay attention to the show unless Bobby’s crying and they can wank over his cracking voice and quivering lips).
Jesus, even onceandfuturekiki, who likes to act as if she’s some sort of ‘authority’ on fandom misogyny, perpetuates the exact same types of behaviors by arguing that because Rumple never verbally ‘insults’ Belle (I’d call issuing threats and accusing her of ‘childish fantasies’ for not compromising her values to be with someone who likes being Dark and refuses to stop killing people insulting, but whatever), he’s not actually an abusive husband. Never mind all the lying, gaslighting, stalking, threatening, nearly poisoning her, touching her without her consent, putting a tracking device on her like a dog, etc. Nope, not remotely abusive. Right.
All of these users also like to present Belle as having been been ‘unreasonable’ for the times last season where she rejected Rumple even when he “finally did what she asked and acted good”. Never mind that he managed to fool her before with the “look at me, I’m Team Good Guy now!” act and maybe, oh I don’t know, she was terrified as hell of getting burned again. Never mind that either way, she had ZERO responsibility for taking him back even if she just simply didn’t want his sparkly ass anymore, because her body and affections do not exist as a reward for his good behavior.
It kills me that the writers acquiesced to the demands of people like ^these and had Belle fall back into her abuser’s arms AGAIN in the finale. Thankfully they’re going to have to undo all that somehow by the beginning of next season; unfortunately it’s probably going to be off-screen. Although maybe it’s fortunate after all, because we know these people like to troll any pro-Belle gifset to make her look like a psycho every time she tries to get away from her stalker. Maybe having it happen off-screen with little explanation will give them little to twist to make her look like the bad guy. I can only hope.
Why Mental Illness Doesn’t Excuse Abusive Behavior
Back during a time when my mental illness was at its worst, I was extremely emotionally, verbally, and physically abusive to my now husband, then boyfriend. Behaviors I would exhibit (and am not proud of):
Slapping him
Name calling
Throwing furniture
Guilt tripping him
Shaming him
Becoming extremely possessive over him, checking his messages, emails, and becoming irrationally upset when he would communicate with any female
Become extremely resentful when he would spend more time with his family than me
Text or call him at inappropriate times and would become suspicious angry when he wouldn’t respond ASAP
Blame him for all of my shortcomings (if he wasn’t so _____, I wouldn’t behave this way!)
That’s just a SHORT list of the things I put him through, not even taking into consideration the eating disorder part of my mental health.
And to make it perfectly clear, there was nothing my husband ever did to warrant or justify any of my behavior. That man has never hit me, yelled at me, manipulated me, shamed me, called me names, become jealous, kept me from spending time with other people, etc. He’s treated me like a queen for the last 11 years, and it wasn’t until I did some deep recovery work that I realized 100% of my behaviors had all to do with me and nothing to do with him. I’m surprised he stuck with me, and although I am eternally grateful that he did, it took a long time for me to not only make amends to him, but to change my behaviors in order to finally come to a place of sanity within my relationship.
Here’s the thing:
Even though a large part of my behavior had to do with mental illness, my husband deserved 0% of it. Regardless if you are sick or not, your behaviors affect other people. If your illness “makes” you abusive, you are still abusive. If my husband decided to press charges for me slapping him in the face, telling authorities, “BUT I HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS!” would not absolve me of the fact that I physically assaulted another human being.
People are hurt all the time due to the shitty things people do because of their illnesses, and they can’t just tell themselves, “Well, they are sick, so I have to deal with it.” or “I can’t let it affect me because I have to understand they are sick.” Like, no. People do not have to do that. They are not obligated to support and/or stay with you if they cannot deal or cope with how you act within your illness.
People are not obligated to be punching bags just because you are sick, especially if you do nothing to change or manage your behaviors.
@rumbelle fandom
I always find it hilarious when OUAT puts out Mother’s Day messages (and that its finale is always on Mother’s Day). There is not a single mother on that show worth celebrating. They’re all murderers, rapists, and/or selfish deadbeats who care more about their ambitions or orgasms than their kids.
Your characterization of Belle as a psycho is extremely horrifying. She didn’t just turn to the Charmings ‘over a lie’--her husband built their entire marriage on a fabrication/gaslighted her/hurt and attempted to murder people behind her back/stalked her/violated her bodily autonomy/tried to make her believe she couldn’t have a happy family without him/put a tracking device on her like a dog/scared the living shit out of her by sneaking up on her in her own library and nearly poisoning her, IN ADDITION to threatening the well-being of her unborn son. This^ right here is victim-blaming at its finest to try and whitewash the abusive behaviors of an unreptenant, entitled male shitlord whose dick you’d like to ride. Your inability to see that is disturbing enough without you trashing his victim for wanting to protect herself and her son by any means possible, even if it led her to trust the wrong people in the process.
Also the ‘sexual dream about her son’ is fucking LUNACY. Gideon kissing her on the forehead was no more sexual than Emma doing the same to Henry in Season 1. You are truly one sick, victim-blaming piece of shit, and I pray you NEVER have a daughter if this is how you would treat her for trying to get away from an abusive boyfriend you happened to like. Truly fucking despicable. Your mother should be ashamed she spawned someone like you.
Even Satan got a tragic backstory so we could understand why the light-bringing angel fell from grace and people on the internet are complaining about the possibility of character development for Kylo Ren.
On one hand when you say it like that ………
But on the other hand lucifer didn’t kill Han Solo, Kylo Ren did.
So “killing Han Solo” is worse than being the literal Devil and the evil incarnate in occidental culture. I love tumblr’s moral alignment. It’s hilarious and more chaotic that Kylo Ren’s behavior in The Force Awakens.
“Kylo Ren is the worse than the actual devil” –Tumblr dot com
“Better to be the Father of Lies than the dude who killed Han Solo, lmao.”
- John Milton, Paradise Lost, Book One, Line 263
Since both are fictional and I liked Han Solo, I dislike Kylo Ren more than Lucifer, especially since hypocritical religious people don’t blame Kylo Ren for their hypocrisy.
It just gets better, guys.
Listen, if we’re gonna be blaming anyone for killing Han Solo, guys…. it’s Harrison Ford. He’s wanted Han dead for like 30 years lmao
(A) Some of us on tumblr believe in the existence of Lucifer (B) Not all of us who do use ‘the Devil made me do it’ as an excuse for fucking anything ( C )That last argument makes zero sense because it attempts to demean religious people while also bashing Kylo Ren since he’s NOT used as an excuse for anybody’s bad behavior wtf?? (D) Paradise Lost isn’t even biblical so Kylo Ren’s natural pull to the light automatically puts him in better standing than the Devil, who gets no such characterization in any of the actual Holy Books he appears in. A more accurate analysis of his portrayal is that of a supremacist maniac hell-bent on fucking up the spiritual identity of the entire human race, something Kylo Ren who, while currently aligned with dark spiritual forces, has no such means of accomplishing himself (E) When I woke up this morning the last thing I expected to get caught up in was a philosophical discussion on the nature of the Devil but then again, it is a Sunday so maybe it’s fitting.
Honestly Satan probably finds it hysterical how NON-COMMITTED to the fascist cause Kylo Ren’s actually portrayed as being.
Satan at the end of TFA be like
Even Satan got a tragic backstory so we could understand why the light-bringing angel fell from grace and people on the internet are complaining about the possibility of character development for Kylo Ren.
On one hand when you say it like that ………
But on the other hand lucifer didn’t kill Han Solo, Kylo Ren did.
So “killing Han Solo” is worse than being the literal Devil and the evil incarnate in occidental culture. I love tumblr’s moral alignment. It’s hilarious and more chaotic that Kylo Ren’s behavior in The Force Awakens.
“Kylo Ren is the worse than the actual devil” –Tumblr dot com
“Better to be the Father of Lies than the dude who killed Han Solo, lmao.”
- John Milton, Paradise Lost, Book One, Line 263
Since both are fictional and I liked Han Solo, I dislike Kylo Ren more than Lucifer, especially since hypocritical religious people don’t blame Kylo Ren for their hypocrisy.
It just gets better, guys.
Listen, if we’re gonna be blaming anyone for killing Han Solo, guys…. it’s Harrison Ford. He’s wanted Han dead for like 30 years lmao
(A) Some of us on tumblr believe in the existence of Lucifer (B) Not all of us who do use ‘the Devil made me do it’ as an excuse for fucking anything ( C )That last argument makes zero sense because it attempts to demean religious people while also bashing Kylo Ren since he’s NOT used as an excuse for anybody’s bad behavior wtf?? (D) Paradise Lost isn’t even biblical so Kylo Ren’s natural pull to the light automatically puts him in better standing than the Devil, who gets no such characterization in any of the actual Holy Books he appears in. A more accurate analysis of his portrayal is that of a supremacist maniac hell-bent on fucking up the spiritual identity of the entire human race, something Kylo Ren who, while currently aligned with dark spiritual forces, has no such means of accomplishing himself (E) When I woke up this morning the last thing I expected to get caught up in was a philosophical discussion on the nature of the Devil but then again, it is a Sunday so maybe it’s fitting.
Honestly Satan probably finds it hysterical how NON-COMMITTED to the fascist cause Kylo Ren's actually portrayed as being.
Concept: it’s entirely possible for more than three new characters to be crucial to the ongoing narrative of this saga at the same damn time.
Confession #96 - Submitted by Anonymous.
Full Confession:
I ship Reylo but also support a Rey/Finn/Poe/Rose team-up happening at some point, even if it’s not until movie three. I’d also be perfectly fine if it only ever happens in an EU book. What I’m absolutely sick and tired of though is both certain Reylos and certain antis acting like I’m ‘silly’ or ‘delusional’ for hoping all of these relationships emerge at some point.
I don’t expect Reylo to end up being a sunshine and rainbows, happily-forever-after type fairy-tale romance, and I don’t expect Rey/Finn/Poe/Rose to end up as the Super Friends of the Resistance. But antis: if the newly-released poster in which Rey and Kylo’s lightsabers CLEARLY MERGE TOGETHER (and Rey herself is positioned in such a way as to mirror Kylo’s crossguard) doesn’t FIRMLY establish how important their connection’s going to be going forward, I don’t know what will.
And fellow Reylos–I’m allowed to want Rey to have significant relationships outside of Kylo and Luke. I’m allowed to want her to become close friends with Rose because with all the male ‘best-buddy’ friendships we’ve had in the saga, we still don’t really have any lady duos yet, and that’s a damn shame as far as I’m concerned. I don’t really expect it to happen in TLJ but we still have ONE OTHER MOVIE to go, and acting like a Rey/Finn/Poe/Rose alliance can’t happen AT ALL is incredibly short-sighted. ESPECIALLY since it would rhyme very nicely with the Luke/Leia/Chewie/Lando team-up to rescue Han in ROTJ.
To summarize, it would be REALLY. FREAKIN’. COOL if people on both sides stopped acting like they’re part of the Lucasfilm Storygroup and know for sure what they have planned going forward. Let people speculate/wish for whatever the heck they want without turning up your noses like we’re ALL twelve-year-olds writing fanfic. You’re not better or wiser for confining Rey to a small handful of relationships in this trilogy and beyond.
When you want to ship finnrose too but find out there’s reylo hate there too.
When you want to ship finnrose and reylo and a jedistormpilotrose friendship but people on all sides insist on treating you like your fucking cray:
The song where you belong by Kari Kimmel reminds me of Joyce and her boys and it makes me weepy