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idle i wait, dkmh
part 1.
positive affirmations
My thane, have you heard of this new thing they're calling "actually writing instead of browsing tumblr dot com"? I hear it's quite controversial
Look, Steve and Billy absolutely f**ked between seasons 2 and 3, so they’re clearly both very responsible when it comes to sex because if they didn’t use condoms Billy would’ve definitely gotten Steve boypregnant like a seahorse ok, it’s not even a question
billy n steve in 90s college au
i miss them 🥺
Billy: Ah so you’re the ‘King Steve’ you look exactly as I expected. The exact guy this town will fear
Tommy: nah, I’m Tommy. That’s Steve *points at Steve*
Steve:🌸🌸💞💗💘💕🥰🥰💘💖💓💞💝💝💓💗🌼💕🌼💕🌸🌷🌸💅🏻🌷🌸🌷💅🏻🌸😘🌸🌷🌸💕💘💖💅🏻
something something about harringrove being dethroned by steddie exactly in the same way steve was dethroned in season 2, which is why the harringrovers will always be the og kings of hawkins and i love that for us
had a dream where instead of eddie, billy comes back to life and they spend all of season 4 constantly arguing with steve while trying to save max until finally billy presses steve against the nearest wall and kisses him to shut the fuck up
i havent watched freeway but this breakdown is making me think HEAVILY about billy as a character and how he really is set up to never be taken seriously about his abuse via people within the stranger things universe and its audience
billys strength and muscles are focused on, so obviously he must be able to fight back against neil if he wanted to, neils physical violence cant be that bad.
billys shown to have a temper and become violent himself, so obviously neils just punishing him as any respectable parent would
and im drawing MANY a parallel between keifer and reeses characters in this movie and billy and karen. because karens a beloved mother shes a suburban goddess she couldnt POSSIBLY be a sexual predator. and so what if he was attracted to billy, its his own fault for being so good looking and looking older than his age of 17-18. karens such a good person she does so much for other people (what exactly i couldnt tell you but other people seemed convinced), okay she had a little transgression with a teenager, she's lonely in her marriage. you know how hard it is to be a woman #myfeminism
billys a rowdy boy, he gets around town, he flaunts his looks, karens just a victim to his sexual prowess.
billy breaking down in the sauna begging for max to believe him comes from an already learned knowledge that people WONT believe him when he says anything that sets him up as the victim.
because he's strong. because he's good looking. because he comes from the wrong side of town. because he's a "man". he's had the cards stacked against him his entire life, so what other choice does he have than to solve his own problems, even if they just end up creating more.
billy was never going to win. he was never going to be seen as the victim he is because he doesnt present as what peoples idea of a victim is. and when you have people like neil or karen, who present themselves as model citizens, just your typical do gooder neighbor, theyre the ones people are going to side with, no questions asked.
because everything about billy says trouble, so whatever happens to him mustve been deserved, if he isnt just flat out lying about it to cause problems, because thats what kids like him do, naturally.
“I want your video, babe, you know I want your video, uh-huh.”
“Alright—alright! Jeez. I’ll release the full video of me dancing in that g-string, fine.”
it's so wild to me that you absolutely cannot force a hyperfixation to happen. like you'll watch the most perfectly tailor-made-for-you content that everyone says you'll love and feel absolutely nothing, and then the thing you watch on a whim to fill time will reach through the screen and put its damn fingers in your brain and start rearranging the neurons right in front of you and every single time you're like THIS??? THIS??????? and this happens like every 6-12 months forever
hot take: i will literally never watch or read or check out whatever it is someone tells me to, purely because they told me to. like the moment i hear “you have to see this” my brain just goes ✨no✨
and if i ever do? yeah, it’s fake. it’s entirely insincere because i’m just angling for something from that person.
okay so i just ventured out on twitter for the first time to peek at the harringrove tag (listen. there’s a lot of porn there, okay?) and uhhhh—
why the fuck did i get blindsided by the sheer amount of hate there like?? i guess i just forgot because i’ve blocked half the tumblr and i don’t often see posts like that here. but on twitter people are literally saying shit like “how can you compare steddie and harringrove? how can you even put them on the same level? eddie is a thousand times better than billy!” BITCH, HOW INDEED.
how in this multiverse of madness can i compare them when billy was an ACTUAL CHARACTER with DEPTH and CONFLICT and DRAMA (and he lived one season more!) and literally enough homoerotic tension with steve to set all of hawkins on fire. they had to KILL HIM to drag him away from his pretty boy because otherwise the sheer power of their (inevitable) enemies-to-lovers arc would’ve blown up the entire series. they had to keep them apart in interviews or joe would start gazing lovingly at dacre, reminiscing about their heated rivalry scenes from season two (he’s still doing that in s5 btw!)
EDDIE WHO??? you mean the narrative patch they threw in to distract people from the cosmic force that was harringrove??
how indeed, bitch. how indeed.
i’m sorry, i feel like i live in a different dimension or something. one where people are not actively GASLIGHTING themselves. the fact that they even need to post about that shit man (okay, i’m not much better, just venting out here). but HOW ARE THEY REAL.
takes a feral little bite out of the twitter app and scuttles back into my cave
I'm thinking of an AU where Billy wasn't involved in the shenanigans/horrors of season three at all. He worked at the pool, picked up extra shifts ever since Heather stopped showing up, went to scoops every chance he got just to see Steve Harrington's fat ass in those tiny shorts. He has a night off for once and decides to go and see that new sci-fi movie playing at the mall. Near the end he swears he can hear Harrington laughing like a lunatic with some girl down in the front row, but when the movie ends Billy doesn't see him in the que to leave, just the girl he works with huddled around a bucket of popcorn and giggling to herself while she wanders towards the water fountain. He needs to piss, so Billy makes his way to the bathroom, stopping short outside the entrance when the sound of someone wretching up what must be all of their internal organs filters through the door. He debates just going home, but he actually *really* has to go. So.
Billy pushes open the door, ignoring the painful vomiting sounds three doors down and takes care of business. It's not until he saunters up to wash his hands that he notices a pair of very familiar Nike's sticking out across the floor. And there sits Harrington, hugging the toilet like a lifeline and panting into the crook of his elbow.
"Harrington? Shit, you alright?"
And normally he'd poke fun. Pretty boy is obviously on something, evident by his blown out pupils and glassy stare. But he's also sweating buckets and shaking, tears and snot running down his face. And Jesus ever loving *fuck*, whoever worked over pretty boy's face wasn't pulling any punches.
Steve squints, eyes traveling slowly from Billy's boots up to his face. He smiles, dopey and high and Billy winces at how it pulls the purple black swelling of his cheek.
"Yeah, I feel way better now."
Which. *Okaaaaay*.
"I'll bet. What the fuck happened to your face?"
"I was integrated-..inter...interror-...I was tortured by Russian spies"
Billy snorts, amused despite himself.
"Oh yeah? That why you weren't at the counter today, sailor?"
Steve scrunches up his nose, and damn, Billy's gunna have to ask Harrington what he took when he's a bit more sober. It's some potent stuff if he's not even flinching moving an obviously broken nose like that.
"You know my shift schedule?"
*Shit*. Billy feels the tips of his ears go hot. Clearing his throat awkwardly as he glances down at his boots.
Time to change the subject.
"Why were you being *interrogated* by Russian spies, pretty boy?"
Steve sucks his teeth.
"Cuz the monsters came back and Robin cracked Dustin's code and then we went under the mall in an elevator to a secret Russian Army base and got caught and then they beat me up and shot me and Robin up with truth syrup and-...umm....I think that's it."
Billy blinks.
Once.
Twice.
And. *Huh*.
"That right?"
Steve nods, swaying dangerously forward before catching himself on the stall doorway.
Whatever he's on, Steve obviously *believes* what he's saying. There might even be something to that 'truth serum' element considering how he's answered all of Billy's questions so easily. And Billy never once in his life claimed to be a good person.
"Why were you with my sister at the Byers' house last winter?"
Steve's head shoots up, eyes wide as saucers and for one horrifying moment Billy's sure the guy is going to start crying. Thankfully he doesn't, just slumps even heavier against the toilet with a sigh.
"Because there are monsters in the dark. And I was supposed to protect them. I *had* to protect them. Hopper said to *stay*. And then you showed up and Max said you were gonna kill her and I was supposed to keep them *safe*"
Billy tries to parse through whatever make believe bullshit Steve is spouting before getting caught on the whole *killing his sister* part.
"What, and you believed her?"
Steve gives him a considering look. Barring the rest of *whatever the fuck* Steve is talking about, Billy isn't sure he wants to hear the answer the guy is obviously mulling over.
Finally, he settles on "I don't anymore", and something sharp and hurt in Billy's chest settles.
"Hmm. Alright. If you've been *shot up with truth syrup*" Billy huffs a laugh "tell me a secret. Something you specifically don't want me to know."
Again, Billy's never claimed to be a good person.
Somewhere under all that blood and bruising, Billy thinks he sees a flush creep up Harrington's neck.
*Jackpot*
"I'm the one who keeps stealing your photo from the pool corkboard"
He-..
Wait
What?
"That's-. Uh. Not what I thought you were gonna say."
Steve shrugs, embarrassed and looking anywhere but Billy. And Billy *has to know*. Has to ask.
"Why?"
Harrington looks up at him, not a trace of a lie in his eyes.
"Cuz every time I go to the pool to ask you on a date I chicken out."
Billy can't feel his fucking *face*. He has no idea what to say.
It's at this exact moment one of Max's nerd friends kicks down the bathroom door, holding Scoops girl by the shirt while Sinclair's little sister levels Billy with a challenging glare that has shame curling hot and acrid in his gut.
"STEVE! We've been looking *everywhere* for you! C'mon buddy, we have to get outta here before the Russian guys find us."
These hicks are fucking insane.
After helping Steve up to rinse out his mouth in the sink, Billy walks out of the bathroom with Harrington hanging off his shoulder when a bullet whizzes past his nose to embed itself in the cement wall.
Henderson is screaming "Shit, they found us!" while two men in black combat gear come charging up the escalator, armed to the teeth. They bark orders out in what is obviously Russian before a show car *flies through the air* and crushes them against the wall.
After Billy is introduced to a little girl with God damn *superpowers*, he's given a bare bones explanation while Steve plays with one of Billy's stray curls like it's the most interesting thing in the world. And monsters are real and there's a spider made of people out to get them and apparently Heather is possessed and all Billy can hear is
***Cuz every time I go to the pool to ask you on a date I chicken out***
kinda look familiar….thought I caught amnesia
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saw this and thought “harringrove”
We all know Joe has spoken well of Dacre or mentioned him (or billy) in some way lately, which is very sweet! but has the opposite ever happened? (I'm not a very knowledgeable person, thanks in advance <3)
to my knowledge, not really. at least not in the same casual way joe tends to bring dacre or billy up. i can't think of a specific interview off the top of my head. i'm sure he would've, if he got to spend a longer time working on the show. but.
dacre simply did far less stranger things press, and whenever he does talk about that period, it's usually centered around billy or billy & max. i'm slowly working my way through older interviews, so if i run into anything i'll absolutely update.
happy to be corrected if someone has a receipt though: @toobusybeingdelulu @rigginsstreet @aeon-of-neon @sunflowerdigs @bubblegumflavor
okay this isn't really dacre complementing joe but i stumbled upon this interview just now and it made me laugh a bit
Whenever we talk about the best Billy moments in season 3-which is all of them tbh- we usually go for his confrontation with Eleven, the sauna scene, his sacrifice. But I think there's one scene that usually gets overlooked because it's not really a scene. It's a frame.
Specifically this frame:
First off, look at him.
Secondly, I think this image perfectly encapsulates just how great of an actor Dacre is. You could have flayered! Billy scowling at the camera or having a devious smile because of what's about to happen. But no. Instead here Billy is emotionless, just staring at the camera, completely physically and emotionally drained after everything the mind flayer has made him do.
What makes this image so striking is Billy's eyes. Again, props to Dacre Montgomery, very few actors can express so much emotion in just their eyes alone. His body language is totally neutral yet his eyes convey so much terror and sorrow because of all the things he's been forced to do.
Also, I think the context of this scene makes Billy's expression even more powerful:
This is just after Billy and Heather kidnap Heather's parents. Her father is pleading with the possessed Heather to stop. Blaming Billy for all of this.
In that moment, Billy comes to a realization. Here Heather's parents are trying to help her even under her possession, they know something has happened to her and are still trying to get through to her whilst being tied up. Billy doesn't have that. Here, he's being blamed for all of this when in reality he's just as much a victim as Heather is. He has no control of the situation and is suffering just as much as her. But the difference here is...at least Heather has people trying to help her.
Her parents are trying to get through to her. Max and El went on a "mission" to go find her. Billy doesn't have that. No one came looking for him, no one is trying to help him. Not Max, not Eleven, not even Susan or his own father. He's on his own.
Billy's expression here is him realizing that he is truly on his own. It probably doesn't help that the mind flayer has been implanting these thoughts into his head that he's unloved and no one cares about him-just so it can break his spirit and keep him in control-it's taken a toll on him mentally, physically, and emotionally and now he knows that it's true. No one is coming to save him.
...I'm probably reading into this a bit much.
I just think it was interesting to show that frame. You could've just had an uncut scene of Heather's father pleading with her and nothing would change. I think adding that frame adds a lot more meaning to the scene, to Billy's character and his mental state, and the decline in any hope he has left that someone will save him. El and Max were right there and they were more concerned over Heather's safety than they were Billy's. Billy really is alone.
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