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Im not sure if you’ve already answered this or not but what brushes do you use?

I use the love pen with a bit of size change and the edges as small as possible, I use a paintbrush with wetness turned all the way up for coloring and rendering

Do you like Tim and Curly,or are you just kinda neutral about them? :3

I’m pretty neutral. They aren’t super important to me but I do like then!

#the outsiders #tim shepard #curly shepard

do you draw straight from how you imagine them from the books, or do u take inspo from the movie?

sorry if u've alre answered this and i looove ur art!

Kind of a bit of both methinks. I use their canon hair and eye colors and take some creative liberties. But I dimly make their faces similar to the actors who play them

#the outsiders #the outsiders fanart

20 hours of straight bs for this

#the outsiders #johnny cade #the outsiders fanart #fanart #sodapop curtis #dallas winston

what’s your favorite feature of Johnny’s to draw? :)

his nose

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about one of your previous asks,

yes greaser girls aren’t hyperfeminine but they’d still be feminine to an extent. ( ex. heavy makeup )

especially Soda who I believe would pride herself in being feminine as possible..I don’t see her being butch.

Anyways, my real question is why are ALL of them butch? Not saying you can’t have one butch design! I think Steve would be one..but why all?

Because I think they’d all be butch. They’re my designs, and I think they’d all be butch so I made them all butch. I have some of them wearing makeup and tighter clothes based on if I think they would, but judging by their lives and just general personalities I think they’d mostly be butch. There’s no limit on how many butchs I’m allowed to have.

#the outsiders

Collab idea you and a bunch of other artists draw your johnny designs to the song fashion by lady gaga like those gacha videos

I actually did have an old video planned with the whole gang of that…I might still do it with my femsiders designs!

#the outsiders

bro why are your asks always so rancid istg 😭 I am so sorry, ur genuinely so cool and don’t deserve it at all—but like why tf is everyone always ragebaiting it’s horrible 😭

I do think most of them just genuinely disagree with me and are sharing that, but I find a lot of them are really rude about it and calling me an idiot. Not that I’m perfect either 🥹

#the outsiders

hiii! i am very very curious and equally scared (bc ur my favorite artist on planet earth) but how do you feel about collabs,,,,?

(Idk if my first one sent thru and i am paranoid,,,)

I’m so sorry but I don’t really enjoy collabs, even with moots. Never works out for me! Thank you for asking, though!

#the outsiders #the outsiders fanart

yo so like no offense but you do know thar a genderbend is meant to be the character but like.....raised as a girl? Not just the exact same character but with longer hair and curvier bodies. if everybody in the outsiders was raised as a girl then not all of them would be wearing the exact same outfit as their male counterpart ykwim? theyd be greaser girls 🥶

I know what Genderbend means, yes.

I literally made these designs because I was sick of seeing designs where they’d suddenly be super feminine and wouldn’t act like greasers. It’s the same person, so I wanted it to actually show that it’s the same person. I made them similar because I think they’d mostly be butch, especially since that was a term flirting around in the 40’s and 50’s. And technically a lot of them aren’t wearing the same outfit, just the same colors. A lot of them have swapped to tank tops and tighter fitting clothes. That’s even why I changed Johnnys shoes, bc I think his parents would try to raise a girl version of him hyper-feminine but she would prefer to dress more masculine.

#the outsiders

the ask you got about the outsiders “not being political” reminds me of the fact i saw a girl reviewing books on tiktok, and not only did she say animal farm was a mess, but that the outsiders needed to “go back for more rough drafts”😭 one of the few times I left a hate comment under a video because fym YOU, a random teenager who likes hunger games slop copies, are saying that a book needs to have been worked on more? not only that but susie was YOUR age when she wrote that.. and what are u doing?

Like I get people not agreeing with my Soc takes, whatever, but how can you genuinely type the words ‘the oustdiers isn’t political’

#the outsiders

hi

g-gah! Hi…crow senpai 🥺

nutsackx

how does randy act morally superior?? do you even get the point of the book

I’ve actually been meaning to discuss this…and seeing as you (and I know it’s just you) have left about 5 asks telling me you think my takes are ass, I’d like to explain my pov.

In the outsiders:

Randy’s moral superiority comes from recognizing the emptiness and useless violence (specifically and greasers and Soc’s), while also never separating himself from it. After Bob dies, he tells Pony he’s sick of it, and that the violence doesn’t solve anything (which, does make him a little more self%-aware than most Socs).

But. That’s kinda undermined by the fact that he sticks with Bob until the very end. He goes along with his behavior, including when Bob jumps Johnny, and when they try to drown Pony. He never tries to stop it. His reflection ONLY comes after he gets hit with real consequences. Randy sees himself as better than the people around him, more thoughtful, but he actively benefits and is complacent in the system. He can say all he wants and talk all this talk…but would he ever be friends with a greaser? Especially before Bob was killed? Did he stick his head out to save Pony or Johnny? No. He talks all this talk about knowing the right way, but refuses to actually do anything.

From what I’ve seen, A similar idea appears in That Was Then, This Is Now (never read it), where characters begin to recognize the damage caused by their environment and act as though they’ve outgrown it before truly changing their behavior. Like those characters, Randy adopts a tone of quiet judgment and detachment, even though he has not taken full responsibility for his past actions.

Randy’s moral superiority is not entirely false, he IS more aware, but it’s incomplete, because he distances himself from the problem without ever fully confronting his role in it.

And yeah, I get the point of the book. This IS the point of the book. Everyone’s a problem, to an extent. There’s the people actively participating, like Bob or Dallas. And there’s the people who clearly know there is a problem, but refuses to do anything to solve it. Everyone is complacent in one way or another. I’m not saying he’s the only morally ehh character, but you can’t talk about him without admitting it. And a LOT of Randy fans like to act like he was ‘the good one’, when again, he was there for a lot of the rougher moments and decided to stand safely and watch, because it didn’t affect him. He ONLY talked to Pony when he was finally given consequences for his actions.

And I feel like I always have to mention this….obviously you can like Bob or Randy, whatever…I just thinks it’s rich that even in a book specifically about the struggles a group of greasers face, some still manage to focus purely on the rich white guys who have been PROVEN to be douchebags.

There’s my soapbox 🥹

fuckyoueugene

The author of the book herself has said that the point is everybody is an outsider. Yes, it is about the struggle of the Greasers, but the Socs too go through things, albeit not as extreme.

No one argues that Randy would be friends with a Greaser before. Because he wouldn't. None of the Socs like Greasers, and prior to Bob's death, Randy hated them too. The whole point is Bob's death MAKES him realise. He thinks he's better before Bob's death, because that's all he's ever been taught.

I have so many thoughts on this, and I think people who hate Randy are unjustified. Even hating Bob, is a bit extreme.

People need to get reading comprehension skills.

nutsackx

A more formal response since you wanted to whine on my strawpage about it

I want to start this saying what I already said. The outsiders is POLITICAL!!! You need to look at some of these things politically.

#1, the thing about SE is a MAJOR oversimplification of what she actually said. You’re saying she claims the book’s whole point is “everybody is an outsider,” but if we’re referncing the 2017 interview (where I assume you’re pulling this from). She says she was angry about her own schools social situation at her Highschool, and the story began after her friend was beaten on his way home. She says she wanted to write realistic teenage life from her POV. The reason I’m bring that up is because the book is not just vaguely “both sides suffer”. It begins from class conflict and violence (mostly by teh socs). Like, yes, teh Soc’s are humans too. But the book is literally rooted in the greasers being targeted.

Also saying my none of the Soc’s like greasers at all is just…false? What about Cherry and Marcia? They show a liking towards Johnny, Pony, and Two-Bit (and Dallas if you count that) before bobs death. Literally their purpose is to break Pony’s view that all Socs are faceless enemies. In the literal spark it’s of the book it says Cherry “gets along well with some of the greasers” and she likes pb&j bc they are polite. So saying “none of the Socs like Greasers before Bob’s death” is just wrong.

Besides, so many Randy fans love to put him as the good one. Just look up how much content is made of him and Pony magically becoming friends or dating after the whole ordeal.

Randy is not just “taught wrong” (which is the babying excuse a lot of soc defenders love to say). he actively participates in the violence. He was present when Johnny was being beaten. He knows how his friends are and helps them. He even goes with Bob to scare PB&J both times (at the drive in, and at bobs death). And I need I remind you he isn’t five years old? He knows damn well what he’s doing. Why do you think all of the times the greasers are being attacked is at night and in private? They KNOW they’re doing wrong and they KNOW they should be getting in trouble for it.

Also another issue I have with Randy and Bob is how they treat Cherry and Marcia. They are utter douchebags. They do things that make their girls uncomfortable, act super possessive and downright abusive to them (especially in the musical adapatation). And laugh off and bitch about their uncomfort.

And yes, Randy does change some after Bob dies. But he’s not magically some softy like you’re making him out to be. The spark notes literally call Randy a bully who thinks greasers are hoodlums. All Bobs death makes him do is make him lose interest in actively fighting, which I think most of agree is out of fear that he will be next. Randy is not some passive bystander.

And you know what, I think him only changing after Bob dies is PART OF THE ISSUE!!! He only starts to see the greasers as real people after he faces some consequence! He is selfish! He doesn’t care about hurting other people until he is hurt too.

And Bob isn’t some misunderstood baby. He is more humanized after death, yes. Cherry loved him. Randy grieves him. He’s a real guy with friends and family. But Bob still did terrible things.

SparkNotes’ Bob analysis says Bob is “violent and possessive,” and that he badly beat Johnny (the cheek scar, I’m sure we all remember). And a side tangent I’d like to remind you that he and Randy and some others beat Johnny (a kid who has been beat and tossed around his whole life) literally TERRIFIED to the point it change his personality and that he was constantly in fear. Nobody should be absolved of a crime like that. That’s why I think the whole “hating Bob is extreme” is not some objective truth that we should all smile and nod for. Bob’s violence should have consequences, alongside Randy’s.

And still, Randy’s whole “realization” is incomplete. Randy does change some, sure. But he isn’t an Angel. He even reminds Pony that he still thinks there are necessary seperations between the two classes with the whole “Greasers will still be greasers and Socs will still be Socs” nonsense. He wholeheartedly believes that the two classes are stuck inside those identities and does absolutely nothing to fight it, and continues to benefit..

That is not the worldview of someone who has unlearned class prejudice. It is more like him saying the fighting is pointless because the system won’t change. That’s a bitter realization, sure, not a noble one that absolves him of all he’s done.

And when Randy asks Ponyboy why he saved the children from the burning church! he says he “can’t believe that a greaser would do anything like that.” That is pretty damning if you ask me. Even after this he still believes that greasers are these nasty creatures who aren’t really capable of being noble people. Even after the church fire, Randy is still literally shocked by the idea that a greaser could be heroic. No less a greaser he helped beat the shit out of for no reason!

And finally, the biggest theme of the outsiders to me is actually empathy. Se Hinton is saying that the Soc’s are humans, but that doesn’t excuse all that they do. And I somewhat disagree with how she phrases things bc I don’t think occasional struggles mean that someone isn’t a bad person. Bob and Randy literally brutalized two younger teens, several times. They were literally trying to drown Pony for talking to Cherry and Marcia…once!

Sure, their struggles matter. But so does the harm they did to other people. Like Johnny being beaten and Pony nearly dying. The greasers poverty and lack of protection matters too! Becuase at the end of the day Bob and Randy usually got to go home smiling and grinning. Maybe Bob and Randy aren’t some perfect Villian, but most aren’t!

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Yeah..ok, this is all refuting the point of the book. You are forgetting one vital thing : these are all children that have grew up in a mindset that takes time to unlearn. You are allowed to dislike a character, obviously, it is your own opinion but these characters aren’t made to be a moral scale of ‘good’ and ‘bad.’ Infact, part of the book is Ponyboy realizing this black-and-white mindset is harmful. You talk about soc defenders using the excuse of the environment they grow up in, and therefore that making them bad—but you are forgetting, that we see a particularly bad side of ‘socs’ because we are reading everything from a greasers perspective. If the book was written from Bob’s hypothetical younger brothers side, we would have harsher opinions on the rest of the boys, Dallas especially. While we see the harmful sides of what Bob and Randy have done, we don’t see that of any of the greaser boys. This occurrence is a common thing from both sides, a endless circle of voilence that needed to break. In the car, we see Randy say things that could be flawed. He is also realizing these things at the same time as Ponyboy: soc, or greasers, they are all people and have their own individual selfs. The environment they grew up is VERY important to them as people, and if you’d ignore that you are completely refuting the point of the outsiders.

Bob and Randy didn’t do anything that the greasers weren’t also doing. Dally, Steve, Twobit, any of the Shepards or Brumley boys could have the same point brought up aganist them. And if the book was from the other side, it would be. We can run in circles on which side is ‘good’ and ‘bad’ but it isn’t going to ever bring an answer (because neither is one of these things)

I’d even say the outsiders ISN’T political, but is instead societal. It is refuting a social issue that SE hinton was living in every day. But that’s not the issue rn…as a baseline, you don’t have to like every character but what i’m reading is just willful ignorance.

nutsackx

I think some of you guys are being intentionally dense. I am not saying simply being a Soc is what makes Bob and Randy hard to forgive , I’m saying the things they do as Soc’s shouldn’t be absolved just because they went through some things. I think this whole thing is a case of some over correcting of the theme of the book.

I am not trying to say The Outsiders is all greasers are good, all Socs bad. Obviously that’s not true, and I famously don’t like quite a few greasers so it wouldn’t make sense for me to say that anyway. Ponyboy’s whole big realization involves realizing that Socs are people too, that pain exists on both sides, and that black-and-white thinking is harmful. I’m not arguing against that. I’m arguing against the idea that “they were shaped by their environment” somehow becomes “therefore Bob and Randy should not be judged for anything they did at all.”

Those are not the same argument.

I want to start off by saying Bob and Randy are not innocent little kids who just had bad social conditioning. They are both near adulthood. I think babying them and infantalizing is a big issue in this fandom and I see it the most when talking about the Soc’s. But they actively participated in violence. Bob had already beaten Johnny badly enough that Johnny was so traumatized and started carrying a knife (again, I need to put emphasis. Johnny has literally been beaten and shoved his whole life. Bob managed to hurt and terrifying him SO badly that it literally changed his personality and made him paranoid. Like I need us all to understand how insane that is). Bob and Randy are part of the group (not just a part, either, they’re the ones running the show) where Ponyboy is held under the fountain and nearly drowned (again, extra emphasis. They almost killed a 14 year old boy bc he was seen talking to their girlfriends. One time.) Randy having a realization later does not delete the fact that he was there. It doesn’t delete the fact they they both did sick, cruel things. I’m not saying they’re deplorable monsters and deserve the death penalty, I’m simply saying that these are not simple things we can write off because the book says being a Soc doesn’t make them evil. I’m not saying having money makes you inherently evil, I’m saying the things they did with that money and power were cruel and heartless and they should not be completely written off.

And saying Ponyboy is an unreliable narrator does not erase everything we are shown. Ponyboy actually criticizes greasers… constantly! He talks about Dally being awful. He shows Dally harassing Cherry and Marcia. He talks about stealing, fighting, records, rumbles, the Shepard gang, all of it. The book does not hide greaser violence. So acting like we “only see the bad side of Socs” is just not true. We see both. The difference is that the Socs have money, status, and social protection behind them. It’s not

Hinton’s own official website says a Soc “has money, can get away with just about anything,” while a greaser “lives on the outside and needs to watch his back.” That is the power imbalance of the book. Hinton also said the story came from the real social and class warfare at her high school. So yes, the book is societal, but pretending societal issues are not political is just…blatantly incorrect. Class, power, policing, reputation, poverty, violence, and who gets believed are all political. Why do you think the cops went chasing after Johnny and Pony without any evidence other than the fact soem Soc’s said it was them? Do you think if Johnny reported Bob after he was jumped that the cops would do anything?

Political does not mean the author directly says vote for a candidate. It means the story is engaging with systems of power. For example, the definition of a book being political is literally: “For a book to be political, it must either directly engage with political systems, power dynamics, and societal structures, or inherently reflect the author's worldview, biases, and societal context.” All things very obviosuly in the outsiders, and all things literally used in some people trying to debunk me.

Also, Cherry and Marcia alone disprove the idea that no Socs were capable of seeing greasers as people before Bob died. Cherry talks to Ponyboy, connects with him, and even has a pretty emotional talk with him iirc. It shows that being raised Soc does not remove all personal agency. If Cherry can recognize Ponyboy’s humanity before Bob dies, then Bob and Randy do not get to hide behind “that’s just how they were raised.”

And yes, Randy’s realization matters. I’m not denying that. But realizing violence is pointless does not mean he is suddenly absolved. He still helped create the situation that killed Bob and nearly killed Ponyboy. His guilt and grief make him more human, not automatically innocent. You cant just say in court ‘yo, I realized this isn’t the smartest thing I’ve done’ and no longer go to jail. And let me tell you, if they were greasers? Randy and Bob would’ve been locked up a LONG time ago.

Same with Bob. The book gives him humanity through Cherry and Randy. It shows he was loved. It suggests he had problems at home. Fine. But saying he had problems and he brutally hurt people can both be true. Understanding why someone became harmful is not the same thing as pretending they were not harmful. And if we’re gonna talk about bias, let’s talk about Cherry and Randy’s! Don’t you think, especially after Bob died, they’re gonna want to defend the man they stood by? Especially when more terrible things come out about him? Cherry (iirc) only defends to Pony after Pony mentions Johnny getting jumped. To me, it sounded a little bit like a ‘I know he did terrible things, but I need an excuse for why I’m still with him’. Same with Randy. I’m not saying what they said is false, but if we’re gonna mention bias we also have to talk about theirs too.

And the “Bob and Randy didn’t do anything greasers weren’t also doing” point is weak at best, I’m sorry. First, if Dally or Steve or Two-Bit did the same thing, I would criticize them too. I already criticize Dally, like, a lot. Other characters are also bad sometimes is not a defense. In what world has ‘everyone is doing it’ ever been a reasonable defense? Besides, the Socs are specifically shown entering greaser spaces, jumping them, threatening them, beating Johnny, and nearly drowning Ponyboy. Johnny even says he wishes the Socs would stay on their own side (I can’t REMEBR if this is just in the movie or also in the musical/book, but it’s an important line). The conflict is mutual, of course, but the power behind each side is not equal.

imo, that is the actual nuance. The Outsiders does not say all rich kids are evil and greasers are all saints. But it also does not say everyone is equally guilty so nobody can judge Bob or Randy. It says class hatred dehumanizes people, violence becomes cyclical, and people are still responsible for what they do inside that cycle.

So no, I don’t think disliking Bob or criticizing Randy is not missing the point. The point is not everything is okay in the end. The point is empathy without erasing harm.

#don’t call me illiterate bc I disagree with you

darryscrow

If the Curtis gang had superpowers, what do you think they would be?

Darry: Superstrength, supersenses and transfer of injury from a living animal to himself instead

Soda: mind manipulation, memory alteration and force physical commands through skin contact

Pony: Superspeed, sharp reflexes

Two-bit: pocket dimension (like a cartoon) and cartoon like strength when taking/using anything out of his pockets

Johnny: Teleportation through shadows

Steve: Anything drawn on his body can come to life

Dallas: Turning body into metal and mend it at will

darryscrow

coolness29

This au(?) is too cute omg!!! 😭😭 saw this and it immediately reminded me of Scott and Ramona.. except two bit Isnt cool enough to be Ramona

darryscrow

oh my god i forgot she has that power 😭😭 hashtag truth bomb though

nutsackx

Lowk Johnny with Shikamaru’s (From Naruto) power would be tuff

hey so ima just put my opinion here real quick on some things you’ve said

the outsiders is NOT political. its about the genuine experience of teenagers in 1965. yes the cause of their conditions is politically motivated and issued, BUT THE BOOK IS NOT POLITICAL. it is about the genuine effects of government officials pushing heavy biases formed by GENERATIONS of indecency to those less fortunate. no the soc kids arent using their status as latty tat ratta blat theyre ALSO what comes out of that kind of lifestyle and constantly being told that being broke than equals less than. the author had a friend get jumped simply because they’d been a hood, THATS WHY THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN.

Oh….my god.

You literally said it’s not political and then mentioned the govt the next line. 😭

Taken right from the spark notes, it says the outsiders is: “deeply political in its exploration of social class, economic inequality, and the marginalization of working-class youth.” Saying a book is political doesn’t mean it’s in an official govt setting or that they differ tell talk about political parties or smth. But talking about the effects of the govt is political. My lord.

And whether you like it or not, the Soc’s actively benefit and use it to their advantage. That’s why you see them do drive-bys and why they’re constantly jumping and brutalizing other characters. In the musical they literally chase down a ns attack Two-Bit during the police investigation and face no repercussions, yet the cops immediately runs to Dallas’s door just bc he’s got a reputation and is a greaser.

#the outsiders #this genuinely hurt my head to read