Just my silly ramblings

I'm Oktogal. They/She/Any. I do not yet meet the legal definition of an artist, but I'm trying. I do meet the definition of a shitposter.

[oktogal]

Hiya!

Hey, the name's Oktogal. (I use They/She pronouns primarily, but I really don't mind any pronouns.)

This is where I post whatever I feel like posting, which usually has to do with whatever hyperfixation has me trapped in its claws.

I'll probably be making a better intro for this blog when I actually learn how to use this site better, buuuuttt I'm really busy (lazy), so it might be a while.

Nice to meet ya!

[oktogal]

Hey, mind if I rant for a bit?

It’s about the Azure and Two Time lore we’re getting. I have several complaints about it. 

Warning: These are all my opinions, and my opinions are known for being bad. 

If I get any facts wrong, I’m sorry, because I refuse to use Discord for safety reasons, and, unfortunately, getting information without being on the Forsaken discord server is a pain in the ass, especially when the wiki doesn’t update that fast.

(no hate on the Forsaken wiki, they’re doing good work over there). 

Ok? The rant's under the cut.

Alright, let’s get the biggest thing I have a problem with out of the way.

The cannibalism. Wow. This came out of left field, and the lore had better have a REALLY GOOD EXPLANATION for why this is happening. 

I’m ok with darker things like this in Forsaken’s lore when it makes sense, but this? 

Nowhere have we ever heard that anything related to cannibalism was included in the Spawn cult’s belief system, and, even though we haven’t heard much at all about the Spawn cult’s beliefs, isn’t it a little strange that they’d do this? The cult that believes people can respawn after death?

Now, these bodies are probably those who never “earned” a second life by way of sacrificing another member of the cult, and, as shown with Azure, most likely those who were sacrificed by the cult. 

I just have one question. In the ARG website (aspenslastbreath.neocities.org), it’s stated that: 

“I came across a walled village, able to house maximum 60 people from what I gather.” 

In the image of Azure stumbling across the bodies, there are at least three bodies shown. 

Where is this cult, with less than 60 people, getting so many corpses from?! The population CANNOT sustain a large amount of deaths!

Is the 3 at one time just an anomaly? I sure hope so, because if it’s the norm, Elder Amarah is consuming a ridiculous amount of people. 

The bodies have most likely not been in the storage for a while, as I sincerely doubt the cult in the middle of the woods that actively sends out people to look for firewood, and relies on herbal remedies for illnesses, has a cold storage setup in one of the buildings. So that means they’re probably fresh. Very fresh.

I thought sacrifices were a special thing that didn’t happen often. In a community that small, constant killings aren’t compatible with long term community survival.

Is the cult sourcing these bodies from outside its walls? Could they be killing outsiders that stumble upon the community as well? Maybe, but if that’s true, Azure would’ve been killed when he first met Two Time.

The ONLY WAY I can see any of this happening, for any reason, is if:

Amarah is a cannibal who started this cult with the sole intent of harvesting bodies to consume.

That would explain why he’d either not care about the long term survival of the cult, or have an industrial walk-in freezer in the middle of a cult that appears to reject technology as part of its beliefs.

And that idea is just so ridiculous to me. It’s almost funny.

A possible counter-point to the theory I just came up with would be that Amarah DOES believe in the Spawn, and he eats the bodies as some kind of ritual.

If so, then why does he hide it? The human sacrifices weren’t covered up!

Under this new lore, Two Time likely sacrificed Azure under direct orders from Amarah, after Azure found out his secret. 

This is making the Two Time and Azure lore sound less like a story of cult manipulation and fanatical devotion leading to tragedy, and more like a person seeing something they weren’t supposed to, and being killed for it.

Have the Forsaken writers forgotten the point? Have they “lost the plot”, as the kids are saying these days?

To be honest, the more I think about it, the cannibalism thing looks more and more like just a plot element shoved into the story to make the Spawn cult look worse.

And that wasn’t necessary. They are sacrificing people. Killing them. 

The optimistic part of me wants to believe that the Forsaken team has a great story planned out, and that I’m just jumping the gun on this whole thing, and I’ll look like an idiot who wasn’t patient enough to see how the pieces fit together. 

But I’ve lost faith in the Forsaken team about many things, lore being one of them. 

This is a block game that includes a purple man, who the team has been trying to convince me is a god, with a voiceline that is literally a glitched Markiplier intro. Even Azure himself is the mozzarella fries Burger King assault man. This is an actual image of the Spectre that is apparently canon (take this with a lamp-sized grain of salt):

What am I getting at here?

It’s that Forsaken is having an identity crisis. I’ll admit that I am not one to judge others for tonal whiplash. The Forsaken dev team is allowed to be silly with their characters. 

But it gets to a point. I’ve been able to tolerate some of the decisions made by the team that seem overly dark, but, starting with this whole “collapse of Robloxia” thing, where it has been confirmed that ROBLOXIANS AS A SPECIES HAVE GONE EXTINCT, I’m starting to become very confused as for what Forsaken wants to present itself as. 

If we count non-canon skins in here too, as most if not all people who play the actual game use skins, then this just starts getting weird. We have Hatsune Miku. And Jerma. In this game. 

And the Forsaken dev team also wants me to accept the fact that cannibalism is happening in the background. And everyone is dead. 

This is not an argument against skins in this game, they are fun. But the Forsaken devs should take a step back and look at the whole picture before adding dark topics into their roblox game, and ESPECIALLY revealing these things with no context whatsoever as to how this fits into the overall story.

Okay, next topic! 

Who is Aspen? 

Is it Azure? I hope not. 

One of the main complaints about Azure I’ve seen tossed around is that he’s just a random OC that has been carried by his cool design and lore. A counterpoint to this I often see is that they’re named after the Azurewrath series of items, to which he shares… little resemblance, but ok. He’s also linked to the Spawn symbol, so that integrates him into the Roblox theme a bit.

Why would they give him another name? What is the point? To confuse us? (Is the Spectre deadnaming them? Genuine possibility.)

Or, is Aspen Two Time’s given name?

I actually like this, for the sole reason that the aforementioned ARG website is called Aspen’s last breath. 

If Aspen is Two Time, then we’ll finally get to see how and why Two Time died and entered the Forsaken realm. If Aspen is Azure, then the website is just giving us another point of view on Azure’s death, which has got to be one of the most often-depicted events in Forsaken. We’ve seen it so many times. 

Unfortunately, by the way the message mentioning Aspen is worded, Aspen is most likely Azure. Or I’m just bad at reading.

Whelp. This is what I get for writing something at 11 PM, but in the ARG website’s latest update, it appears that it has been confirmed that Aspen is Azure’s name. Why? What purpose does this serve? 

Where did the name Azure come into the picture? Does him being called Azure matter at all?

Last up! 

This isn’t actually a new point. But I haven’t been able to talk about it yet. It’s the hat.

Azure cannot speak. The hat speaks for him. I am unsure if the tidbit about the Spectre speaking through the hat is canon, but it sure isn’t Azure talking.

This really annoys me. If the hat isn’t going to align with Azure’s thoughts, why have it speak at all? We can have another mute killer, after all.

We haven’t gotten a lot of characterization for Azure. We’ve been told things, yes, about his anger issues, their feelings towards Two Time after death (even though it’s still EXTREMELY UNCLEAR what those feelings were), his current hatred, but I want to see it. I don’t want people to have to rely on official statements that are hard to access. 

Give us Azure. Not the hat feeding us things Azure wouldn’t say. 

In conclusion, I actually want to regret writing this. I want to reblog this on Friday or Saturday and say “these were terrible takes, and I’m going to retreat into my cave and never complain about Forsaken lore again.”

I want the Forsaken team to make Azure and Two Time’s lore work. I like this game. I like the characters. But they’ve made me grow to dislike the story. I now dread every coming update as much as I’m excited, because the lore has, in my opinion, gone a bit off the rails. 

Feel free to argue against anything I’ve said here, I want to hear other takes. 

I’ll probably make a part 2 to this after the update comes out and we finally get all of the information.

Ok bye!!!!

[oktogal]

I've been considering writing a Forsaken 1xJane fic for a while now. Why?

Well, there are 2 seperate fics I've been seeing on AO3 (that I won't name), one is a JohnJane fic, and the other is 1xDoe.

The 1xDoe fic has the tag:

And the JohnJane fic has the tag:

I am (not seriously) thinking of writing a 1xJane fanfiction just to use both of those tags because:

A. I feel like there needs to be a 1xJane counterpart to all this

B. This whole 1xDoe vs JohnJane thing is dumb

C. It's funny

[oktogal]

I love how there are T shirts you can buy that say things like: “I run on coffee”, but if I ever wore a T Shirt that said “I depend on a stimulant to function” everyone would think I’m crazy. We have coffee ice cream at the store I work at, and every time someone orders it I think of how funny it would be if it was methylphenidate ice cream instead.

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I woke up this morning with a burning question in my mind: does Noli actually understand the memes he’s referencing? Do those memes and the context around them exist in the Forsaken universe? Or is he just incomprehensible to everyone else? Did the Spectre beam forbidden knowledge into their brain as an extra form of torture? anyways I made a shitty comic about it

Yes this is an eggman’s announcement + snapcube fandub reference because I feel like Noli would do his glitchy meme thing with clips from that a lot.

goodnight y’all.

[oktogal]

I checked the Forsaken subreddit (the people there are annoying but it’s good for news). I saw Azure’s model. I clicked the next image. I went:

“What the genuine actual FUCK”

I grabbed my ipad. And made a meme and did a doodle.

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You know how many years I’ve waited to make this joke? My miis won’t know what hit em.

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Chibi Chance floating in the evil black and red striped void of doom. Instead of calling for help, they’re posing. What is his problem.

BONUS: doodle I made the other day. I call it “Chancelorecore”.

[oktogal]

I put Two Time on my Tomodachi island, but everyone keeps just leaving when I try and introduce them. Like, this has happened 4 times already.

C’mon, Miis, they just want to make friends!

[oktogal]

It is pride month my lads.

I have a semi-funny story about me for today. A couple years back, I wrote an essay on Romeo and Juliet, and the assignment was to write an essay in support of Romeo’s or Benvolio’s stances on the concept of love at first sight.

I chose Benvolio’s side, and wrote a whole essay basically stating that love at first sight is complete bullshit, and, in fact, people should just stop worrying so much about love. I mean, it’s not that big of a deal.

 To my surprise, many people in my class chose Romeo’s side, and wrote essays supporting love at first sight, and some of them even had their own experiences with the concept.

A few months later I would figure out I was aroace. 

Looking back, so many things I said and wrote when we were reading Romeo and Juliet were warning signs. 

[oktogal]

Noli art once again. Can you tell I have a favorite?

My man is so self centered, have you SEEN the amount of Noli statues in the Tempest? There’s gotta be, like, at least 7 or 8.

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Low effort Telamon doodle I did last week.

He has infected my brain please send help.

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Idk what to call this guys, uh- chibi Azure I guess?

I love all the absolutely majestic fanart I keep seeing of him but all I can manage is. This.

Gloopy little thing. Slimy angry creature. I love him with all my heart.

[oktogal]

Duuude I think I have a problem or something, I've been poking around the internet looking for content of my fav ship all morning, I've found nothing. Exams start on Monday.

I have a counter of all of the people who've ever expressed interest in this ship, it's at like 10.

22 fics on Ao3 for it, half of them don't even include the ship. Most of the ones that do are old and unfinished. One of the most recent ones is mine which I only wrote because I needed more content. (it was painful)

I need to spread my propaganda but I can't draw (can't draw well, at least). I also need to start studying.

Is this what rarepair hell feels like?

[oktogal]

I have to draw SEVEN OF THEM?! -Me after I'd already decided I was gonna make human forms for the SWFOTH swords.

Alright, here's Venomshank and Darkheart. Warning: I'm terrible at character design.

Oh hey wait I have some lore too-

Arright byeeeee

[forsaken-head-canons]

(Distant yelling)

AZURE WOULD HAVE AN EMO PHASE ONCE HE LEARNS WHAT THAT IS!

-Noliobsessed anon

PRE OR POST SACRIFICE??????

eh. probably both. lmao.

ALSO YOU'RE VERY RIGHT!!!!!!

[oktogal]

Noliobsessed anon here, I meant post-sacrifice, but now I'm just imagining:

Azure your partner is about to stab you- Oh my god he has airpods in and he's listening to My Chemical Romance. Oh my god he can't hear us-

[oktogal]

I swear to god, if the paper I'm writing WASN'T on world war II, I would be dying right now. This is the first time in my life that ADHD has actually helped me, thank fuck for my world war 1 world war 2 and early cold war hyperfixation. (1910s-1960s era-ish)