It's Not Canon

It is not canon! It will never be canon. Cry all you want it will never be anything but fanon. Things that are canon: Megstiel, Sam/Jess, Dean/Lisa, John/Mary, Bobby/Ellen, Sam/Ruby, Dean/Jo Destiel is NOT canon, it has never be canon. Sexual Wincest is not canon, but you know what? Wincest shippers don't mind that. Sastiel is not canon, but you know what? Sastiel shippers don't mind that Stop being a self-entitled little bastard who thinks that they are owed anything by the writers body, a, a:hover {cursor: url(http://media.tumblr.com/3e9c1d6fc3adc4ce62501028ec6da675/tumblr_inline_mi665fmTZO1rniey4.png), auto}

[oommbbsspeaks]

People making last night's episode about Destiel

  People making last night's episode about Cockles

  People acting like Misha had anything to do with how the episode was written

[oommbbsspeaks]

I have seen a multitude of horribly abusive/rape related dean/cas posts in light of this episode. Pointing this out and not agreeing with it isn't kink shaming.

Let's all review:

rape is not a kink, it's sexual assualt

 consensual non-consent is a kink

consensual rape play is a kink

rape is not a kink

[mishaxjensen-deactivated2015071]

WHAT IS DESTIEW

[oommbbsspeaks]

Destiew is an anti-Destiel tag. It is a place where people, like myself, go and post their anger and frustration concerning Destiel, such as:

receiving death threats from Destiel shippers

threats of rape, murder, and torture (for A: not shipping Destiel B: shipping Wincest)

having their posts hijacked by Destiel shippers (such as taking posts and either A: adding Destiel to a non-Destiel post, or B: taking a Sastiel post/fic and changing all of the Sam's into Dean's to make it into Destiel)

being bullied by Destiel shippers for not shipping Destiel

having non-Destiel tags (such as Wincest, Sastiel, Megstiel, etc) flooded with Destiel

frustration over the fact that many of us have over 40+ Destiel/Destiel related tags blacklisted (in my case over 60) and STILL being unable to block it all due to purposely mistagged posts

having Destiel shippers claim they speak for the entire fandom

having Destiel shippers claim that people aren't true fans of Supernatural unless they ship Destiel

hearing Destiel shippers state that there is ZERO reason to watch seasons 1-3 or any episode without Castiel (in some extreme cases hearing Destiel shippers claim that ANY episode without Castiel isn't canon)

seeing untagged Destiel in places it doesn't belong (like the Sam Winchester tag, any episode tag where Castiel was not in the episode, any OTHER ship tag)

We tag our frustrations as Destiew, so that people can blacklist it and NOT have to see it, but somehow that makes us in the wrong. We came up with a name to call the assholes in the Destiel fandom (Destiehellers) to differentiate between them and the normal Destiel shippers, but again we're in the wrong for that. 

And then they have the never to try and take over our tag, they flood it with their garbage, and make up a ship (Dean/Cas/Bartholomew) and claim that Destiew is the tag for that ship (when the tag has been around longer than the character of Bartholomew).

[buckybarnesfanclub-deactivated2]

notice how there’s an entire name for destiel hate (destiew) and shippers (destihellers) but THERE’S NO HATE TAG FOR WINCEST

that’s because many wincest shippers feel the need to attack everyone and  are completely insecure. wow.

[oommbbsspeaks]

No hate tags for Wincest?

Let's see, there's Anti-Wincest, lol Wincest, Whinecest, Ewincest

For the shippers: whinecesters

This post did NOT belong in the Wincest tag, it belonged in one of the anti-Wincest tags.

[oommbbsspeaks]

I really hate how whenever there's a SPN episode without Cas or with a whole lot of brother bonding, the fandom goes into an uproar, attacks the writers, and keep demanding for explanations for the lack of destiel. People need to stop treating Sam like shit because their ship isn't sailing. This show is about SAM AND DEAN, PEOPLE! It was about them before Cas and it will be about them after Cas so get over it!

Exactly. Unfortunately most of the people I see complaining about lack of Castiel are what I like to call "Destiehellers" aka Destiel shippers who are so obsessed with the ship that they think EVERYTHING is about Destiel and no longer watch the show for any other reason.

Supernatural was just fine before Castiel, and it would still be fine if Cas was gone

[oommbbsspeaks]

Don't come into this tag and the anti-wincest tag to tell us to 'get along' and 'this isn't what shipping is.'

We don't need a mediator we just need our venting tag to be left alone

[oommbbsspeaks]

The recent spike of spamming the destiew tag is great proof they're unwillfully coming to terms with their ship isn't happening

It's part of the grieving process, right now it's denial.

[fredwecsley-deactivated20141229]

i love how everyone just tags every single picture of dean and cas with destiel, it’s just the way it is now, even people who don’t ship it ship it

[jfeck]

I hate it because I can’t actually go into the Dean Winchester tags, or the Castiel tags, because all I see is ‘destiel’ or things tagged as such even if they’re from seasons Cas wasn’t in.

[oommbbsspeaks]

I hate that due to the fact that people who don’t ship Destiel (and there are MANY of us) are forced to see things tagged as Destiel when they aren’t in any way that.

I hate the fact that people who are fans of Dean and Castiel’s canon, platonic friendship can’t even make posts about them and tag them with Dean and Cas (a tag that USED to be for non-Destiel posts about Dean and Cas) because Destiel shippers have taken that tag away from people.

And you know what I hate more than anything? Assholes like you who claim to speak for the entire fucking fandom. “even people who don’t ship it ship it" You know what? Screw you. No, people who don’t ship it ship it. Arrogant twit. 

[surrenderingtosupernatural]

This person came as a new to fandom. With no ill will. She didn’t know of your factions and ship wars and inflamed situation. She didn’t mean anything, and she wasn’t pushing her ship. Her only crime was not knowing better and behaving like would be normal and inoffensive (Yes, really.) to behave in almost any other fandom (at least the ones I’m and have been part of.)

I am royally stupid about this, I admit. I haven’t been through what you guys have. I cannot know the true depth of your hurt.  But I can see why people are defensive. I do.

But was it really necessary to be that mean? She got really upset. You hurt a person who wasn’t any part of your battles and meant absolutely no harm to anyone. Was that what you wanted?

[oommbbsspeaks]

Hey, I sent her 2 messages apologizing for upsetting her and explaining why that sort of thing sets me off. If she hasn't read them/responded to them that isn't my concern.

But yeah, making comments about how EVERYONE ships Destiel... totally not cool in my books.

[samanddeanarelove]

Dean's number one priority

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[fredwecsley-deactivated20141229]

i love how everyone just tags every single picture of dean and cas with destiel, it’s just the way it is now, even people who don’t ship it ship it

[jfeck]

I hate it because I can’t actually go into the Dean Winchester tags, or the Castiel tags, because all I see is ‘destiel’ or things tagged as such even if they’re from seasons Cas wasn’t in.

[oommbbsspeaks]

I hate that due to the fact that people who don't ship Destiel (and there are MANY of us) are forced to see things tagged as Destiel when they aren't in any way that.

I hate the fact that people who are fans of Dean and Castiel's canon, platonic friendship can't even make posts about them and tag them with Dean and Cas (a tag that USED to be for non-Destiel posts about Dean and Cas) because Destiel shippers have taken that tag away from people.

And you know what I hate more than anything? Assholes like you who claim to speak for the entire fucking fandom. "even people who don’t ship it ship it" You know what? Screw you. No, people who don't ship it ship it. Arrogant twit. 

[butthurtdestidicksmakemesmile]

Some tags for reference (aka things/people to add to ignore lists if that's your thing)

Category: I “know” Dean Winchester better than Dean Winchester, Jensen Ackles, the writers/producers, Eric Kripke (aka Dean is bi)

here Dean is bi

here Dean is bisexual

here Dean Winchester is bi

here Dean Winchester is bisexual

Category: Who do you mean by that?

here Adam Winchester

here Castiel Novak

here Castiel Winchester

Category: I don’t know the definition of that word

here Destiel is canon

here Canon Destiel

here Destiel is endgame

[samanddeanarespn]

For the Supernatural Fandom as a whole

I don’t care what you ship. You could ship Destiel or Wincest or Dean/Naomi or Impala/Pie for all it matters to me. What does matter is how you treat people.

You see a fellow member of your ship fandom harassing someone who ships a different ship, you deal with them, you don’t go to the people who are getting harassed and tell them that they are wrong, that they are at fault for being bullied.

I don’t care which ship is doing it, just stop it already. 

Police your part of the fandom, don’t turn it against anyone else.

There are dicks in all ships

[samanddeanarelove]

^This

[oommbbsspeaks]

So apparently

Eric Kripke stating that the male characters on his shows are straight (see: Dean Winchester, Sam Winchester, Castiel, etc) is not enough for some people *cough*Destiehellers*cough* to admit that Dean is in CANON straight 

(see here for what I mean)

[butthurtdestidicksmakemesmile]

For everyone claiming that Dean Winchester is bisexual in canon

Please refer to this post where Eric Kripke flat out says that the characters are STRAIGHT.

There is no questioning that fact.

Have Dean bisexual in your headcanons, your fanon, but that does NOT change the fact that he is straight, as stated by 

himself

Jensen Ackles (who KNOWS Dean, he’s played him long enough)

The writers/producers

Most Importantly ERIC KRIPKE HIMSELF

Deny that fact and you look like a fool. Dean is straight in canon. Dean is not gay. Dean is not bisexual. DEAN WINCHESTER IS STRAIGHT

[whoiskt]

seriously though why do people even need a tag specifically for them to shit on something? like, why are you so focused on hating something? like i personally hate the harry/ginny romance. you don’t see me dwelling on it every day, making multiple posts about it in a tag, getting angry over it?? like that is so stupid, why would someone do that? that’s a waste of your goddamn time. grow up you babies.

[oommbbsspeaks]

Um, hi, so would you rather we post anti-Destiel into the Destiel tag like Destiel shippers do when they post anti-Wincest in the Wincest tag or anti-Sastiel in the Sastiel tag or anti-Megstiel in the Megstiel tag or anti-any ship but Destiel in the MAIN Supernatural tag?

Would you rather we vented about having Destiel shippers send us death threats or telling us to kill ourselves in the Destiel tag?

I doubt you wanna go to the Destiel tag and see hate against the ship and the shippers, so kindly stay out of our one fucking safe haven. What is so hard about that? Blacklist #Destiew and you won’t have to deal with us.

We don’t go to the Destiel tag (something we don’t like) and then bitch about what we see there, so stay out of the Destiew tag.

[whoiskt]

no, no you are not hearing me right. i would prefer people NOT TO FOCUS ON THINGS THEY HATE. no anti-wincest, no anti-megstiel, no anti-whatever. no matter what tag you’re trying to put it in. keep it to yourself on your own blog. or maybe your diary, or call your sister, i don’t actually care!!!

let’s use a completely different analogy here: let’s say you loved coffee but hated tea. and then, one weekend there were two conventions, a “tea haters” convention and a “coffee lovers” convention. why would you choose to go to the convention with a super negative attitude instead of the loving one? that is essentially what you are doing.

now, i know absolutely nothing about all these death threats flying around. that is completely ridiculous thing people are doing. honestly, if i were you, i’d just delete them and move on with your life.

[oommbbsspeaks]

See this post and then tell me why we shouldn't have a place to vent

[fennekin-the-fox-deactivated201]

When you post that I hope you realise I do actually ship Destiel and you can tell so from my posts, I'm just trying to be mature about the situation.

the destiew tag is a hate tag

it’s full of people who harass the actors and producers. these people have organized planned assaults, hate campaigns, and rallied for misha collins’ unemployment because they didn’t like what was going on between his character and jensen’s or at the very least what people were interpreting from their acting. that’s pretty scary.

the destiew tag before this new ot3 thing has been filled with homophobia,  rampant ableism, and misogyny and people who trivialize abuse and triggers.

the only thing that is ever going to come from by tagging cas/dean/bartholomew as destiew is making it harder for people who regularly surf the destiew tags to linearly and conveniently continue doing what they’ve been doing

you were sympathizing with these people, so you can imagine how that came off

[butthurtdestidicksmakemesmile]

fennekin-the-fox, may I begin by saying that you are, in my opinion, a complete and utter idiot who has just made bald faced lies about myself and many of my friends.

I am a fan of both Misha Collins and the character he plays, Castiel (thereby making your statement about “rallying for Misha Collins’ unemployment” complete and utter bullshit)

How am I, a bisexual woman, homophobic because I do not like Destiel? I ship other M/M and F/F ships, as well as M/F ships. (So you calling me homophobic is bullshit)

The only people I have seen in my entire time as part of the Supernatural fandom making hate campaigns and “organizing planned assaults” have been Destiel shippers, not non-Destiel shippers. And in the same regard the ONLY people I have seen harassing the actors and the producers have been, surprise, surprise, Destiel shippers.

As someone who was beaten and left for dead by an ex-boyfriend I find the romanticizing of Castiel beating Dean triggering, that said I find the scenes where Dean and Sam are beating each other triggering as well, BUT I do not see those scenes being romanticized by Wincest shippers as I see with Destiel shippers. So don’t you fucking dare say I am trivializing abuse and triggers, you have NO fucking clue.

Where the hell are you getting the people in the Destiew tag are guilty of “rampant ableism and misogyny” because they aren’t like that. You might be mistaking the messages they have received and posted here are proof of what they receive, but it’s not on their end

If anyone in the fandom is a problem it is liars like yourself who twist things away from the truth and place the blame on someone else.

[whoiskt]

seriously though why do people even need a tag specifically for them to shit on something? like, why are you so focused on hating something? like i personally hate the harry/ginny romance. you don’t see me dwelling on it every day, making multiple posts about it in a tag, getting angry over it?? like that is so stupid, why would someone do that? that’s a waste of your goddamn time. grow up you babies.

[oommbbsspeaks]

Um, hi, so would you rather we post anti-Destiel into the Destiel tag like Destiel shippers do when they post anti-Wincest in the Wincest tag or anti-Sastiel in the Sastiel tag or anti-Megstiel in the Megstiel tag or anti-any ship but Destiel in the MAIN Supernatural tag?

Would you rather we vented about having Destiel shippers send us death threats or telling us to kill ourselves in the Destiel tag?

I doubt you wanna go to the Destiel tag and see hate against the ship and the shippers, so kindly stay out of our one fucking safe haven. What is so hard about that? Blacklist #Destiew and you won't have to deal with us.

We don't go to the Destiel tag (something we don't like) and then bitch about what we see there, so stay out of the Destiew tag.