ok but i am still so embarrassed for ppl who think kylo ren is past the point of no return and will never be redeemed
like… my homies, my dudes. if the point was to show he’s bad and is always going to stay bad, why tf would you show ambiguity in him and his turn from the BEGINNING??
he doesn’t turn finn in
leia’s vote of confidence in the goodness in him happens; the last time a skywalker professed faith like that in their family, it was REWARDED. not without suffering, but it was STILL rewarded
he seeks counsel with his grandfather, to quell the LIGHT IN HIM
his hesitancy with han on the bridge isn’t just manipulation; this is the first time he’s seeing his own father since he was a CHILD
& WHY INTRODUCE THE IDEA THAT HE’S BEEN SEDUCED BY SNOKE AT ALL???? IF YOU’RE NOT GONNA EXPLORE THAT IN LATER MOVIES????
kylo ren has a multi-movie ARC. if this was a standalone film, i’d believe that this was his final position, a boy turned villain, finally lost to the dark side.
but he’s not loki and this ain’t thor (2011). kylo ren is STILL a main character and STILL has room to grow.















