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More finds in the cut content. What's interesting is that this is post-game content. I don't know if these are pieces of DLC or an extended epilogue. Rook and Lucanis drink wine in a gondola. In one version, Lucanis refused to be First Talon and left the crows. The Viper arrives to Treviso to hire Lucanis to kill the local Venatori. The lines in the localization file are out of order. I've organized them as best I could, but I'm not sure if everything is correct.
The gondola scene
Rook: What are we celebrating? Revenge? Saving the world? Lucanis: How about a quiet moment? Rook: Is it quiet? Really? Lucanis: If it's not quiet, it's at least clear.
Option: If only the Antaam were gone. Rook: Treviso's beautiful. Too bad it's filled with Antaam.
Option: You're surprisingly romantic. Rook: Who knew you were a romantic? Lucanis: You bring it out in me. Rook: Yeah, yeah. I'm a bad influence.
Option: Let's not go back. Rook: Let's stay here forever. Lucanis: A little. Not forever.
Rook: What? No fancy glasses? Lucanis: That's Caterina's style. I'm more pragmatic. Lucanis: Well, more pragmatic than her anyway.
Option: Learn from your elders. Rook: There's nothing wrong with a bit of class. Lucanis: (Chuckles) I'll remember for next time. Rook: Oh yes. This is so pragmatic. Lucanis: I know.
Option: Casual's better. Rook: Less clean up. Rook: That's why we're having drinks in a gondola instead of the kitchen. Lucanis: Knew you'd understand.
Lucanis: Is it wrong? Enjoying ourselves while the Antaam terrorize our home... (Crow Origin) Lucanis: Is it wrong? Enjoying ourselves while the Antaam terrorize Antiva... Rook: Does it feel wrong?
(apparently Rook moved, causing the boat to rock.) Lucanis: Careful. Gondolas are more fashionable than they are stable. Rook: They're plenty sturdy. Rook: See. Nothing to— Rook: Oops? Lucanis: You were saying? Rook: Sorry. Lucanis: (Chuckles) Classic Rook. Rook: I've made things awkward. Lucanis: I like this side of you. Lucanis: More wine? Rook: I saved the wine? Lucanis: (Laughs)
(Talon's version) Rook: How are you settling in as First Talon? Lucanis: There was some initial... friction with Caterina, but she got over it. Lucanis: She thought I'd do things her way and was surprised when I had my own ideas. Rook: Really? You'd think she'd be the most welcoming. Lucanis: No.
Rook: Have you spoken to Caterina or the others? Lucanis: Letters here and there. We haven't met since the party. Lucanis: I don't want to cut ties. Lucanis: But Caterina needs to get used to the fact that I'm no longer her heir. Rook: Are you used to it? Lucanis: I was never comfortable with the role to begin with. Rook: So, no regrets? Lucanis: (Sigh) Rook: It's a yes or no question, Lucanis. Lucanis: It's not. You've enough experience with regret to know that.
Rook: I respect your decision to walk away. Lucanis: It wasn't an easy decision. Lucanis: It was hard. Walking away. Rook: It was hard watching it. Lucanis: Let's not talk about me.
Rook: It's not an interrogation if you care. Lucanis: Why not? I've been thoroughly interrogated. Rook: (Snorts) Is that how it works?
Option: Your priorities have changed. Rook: You've changed your tune. Lucanis: I am. On what's important.
Lucanis: Rook. I owe you. For my life, my freedom.
Option: Consider it paid in full. Rook: That debt was paid when you helped us defeat the elven gods. Lucanis: No. That was a job. What you've done for me...
Option: I needed a mage killer. Rook: I had selfish reasons. Lucanis: Rook. I'm serious. Lucanis: Whatever your reasons...
Lucanis: The Venatori killed the man I was. Lucanis: You put the fight—the life—back into me. Rook: I... Thanks.
Lucanis: If you need someone taken care of... Just say the word. Lucanis: Your enemies are House Dellamorte's enemies. (Talon's line) Lucanis: Your enemies are my enemies.
Option: You make murder sound sweet. Rook: Awww. That's sweet. And scary. Lucanis: Of course those are the same thing to you. Rook: I was only teasing. Lucanis: How am I supposed to argue when you say things like that?
Option: I'll settle for friendship. Rook: Or we could just be friends? No killing required. Rook: I still care about you—as a friend. Lucanis: Didn't want you to get the wrong idea... Lucanis: We're still friends. Lucanis: If that's what you want... Rook: Appreciate it.
(non romance/friendship version?) Rook: Oh, I'm aware. Just haven't figured out what I want in return. Lucanis: (Chuckles) Lucanis: For a price. Rook: And you'll charge me... Lucanis: Like I said—a fair rate. (Talon's line) Lucanis: I'm not a Crow anymore. Rates are negotiable. Rook: Still sounds pretty Crow-y to me.
Rook: It's passed sundown. Lucanis: (Sighs) Rook: Time to go? Lucanis: I've business before we return. Rook: What kind of business? Lucanis: Competitive analysis.
Lucanis: Don't worry. I'll collect. Rook: Fun time over? Lucanis: I've business before we return. Rook: What kind of business? Lucanis: Competitive analysis.
Possibly lines from a subsequent quest.
Rook: Business at a Chantry. Not very Andrastian of you. Lucanis: What in our experience together makes you think I'm a good Andrastian? Rook: (Chuckles) Fair enough.
Rook: You sound like you have a plan. Lucanis: Always another mark. Rook: I take it the Antaam are the subject of this so-called analysis? Rook: Why do I get the feeling there's going to be less "analysis" and more stabby-stab? Lucanis: Keeps Wrath content. (Wrath is Spite's previous name?)
Lucanis: Viago said it'd be a fitting spot. Rook: You've proven it's a good spot for an ambush. Rook: And you're loud. Which do you think will attract the Antaam?
Meeting with Ashur. It seems as if Lucanis and the Viper were discussing their business, and then Rook came.
The Viper: If you don't trust my intel— Lucanis: I trust your intel and... Lucanis: Fortunate the Rook is here to save the day. Rook: The Rook can detect sarcasm!
Option: Ashur, you shouldn't be here. Rook: This isn't Minrathous. Rook: Ashur, if the Antaam find out you're here... The Viper: I've paid the right people so that they don't.
Option: You two make quite the pair. Rook: The Viper and the Demon. Sounds like a nursery rhyme to scare children.
The Viper: I was just leaving. Rook: Leaving so soon? Rook: You don't have to. Lucanis and I could show you the sights. Rook: There's wine tasting, Antaam assassinating, gambling— Lucanis: Rook. The Viper: You're ruining Rook's fun. Rook: Think about my offer.
The Viper: Should I pay now or— Lucanis: Just go.
Rook: What did he want? Lucanis: Some of us have work to do. Lucanis: It's about time I take care of things at home.
Rook: Who's the mark? Lucanis: Venatori who fled Minrathous after Elgar'nan's fall. Rook: That's why Ashur was here. Lucanis: He's the one who hired me to dismantle the Venatori in the first place. Lucanis: Might as well finish the job.
The most unclear part. Maybe it's related to the quest to kill the Venatori that Viper pointed out.
Rook: Can't take the huge door. Lucanis: The Venatori are inside. Strike from above and we'll take them by surprise. Rook: Above, eh? Rook: Good thing I'm not afraid of heights.
Rook: Not sure why Antivans even build doors. Rook: We never use them. (Crow Origin) Rook: You never use them. Lucanis: We're the Antivan-fucking-Crows.
Rook: We need to be cautious. Rook: If we're not careful, he'll kill the girl. Lucanis: Not if he's dead.
Lucanis: Focus on the self-important bastard. I'll take care of the rest. Rook: They're all self-important—and why do you get so many? Lucanis: Their predictability makes them easy targets.
Venatori: Two, four, six piggies come to slaughter. Venatori: Be grateful. Your meager existence will serve a higher cause. Rook: I'll show you a higher cause right up your— Venatori: (Grunts!) Venatori: Uh—God killer! Right he— Lucanis: Mage killer. Venatori: (Yells in pain) Rook: Lucanis! That's cheating! Lucanis!
Lucanis: Fucking Venatori. Rook: (Sigh) You can take the blood mages out of Minrathous, but…
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An important addition to this:
Viago's voice actor lost everything but his partner and his dog in the LA fires, if you wanna help out here's a link in his gofundme that's been set up for them!
They did get along very well maybe too well
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Sheryl Chee (Harding's writer) on the state of things
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I was confused that after returning from prison of regrets, Rook was immediately dragged to a hub meeting. Turns out that after the prison, your love interest insisted that everyone leave Rook alone and send them to rest. And only then there was a meeting.
Rook: Solas? (?): We're not sure. Probably searching for some way to defeat Elgar'nan. (?): We don't know. Not really. We were so busy looking for you we… lost track. option: It's been two weeks. Rook: I was… what? Two weeks? option: A two-week long day. Rook: Apparently my hard day lasted two weeks. (?): Yes, you were gone two weeks. Which means you need rest, food, and water. (Emmrich?): Yes, my love. Which is why you shouldn't rush out just yet. (?): Enough of this. You need food and rest. We'll talk business later. (Taash?): Yeah. So you need rest. We can talk about the other crap later. Davrin: We'll talk about this later. You need some rest and Assan needs feeding. (?): Everyone please stop. Rook needs rest, and… food, probably… (?): Yeah. A lot happened. But it can wait. Until you've had some rest. (?): Yeah. There's a lot to catch up on. After you rest, anyway. Rook: Thanks, Bellara. Bellara: Of course. I'm here for you. Whenever you're ready. Rook: Lucanis… Lucanis: Go get some sleep before you collapse. If anybody knows how bad that is, it's me. Rook: Taash… Taash: You need rest. I'll make you tea. Do you want ginger or lavender? Rook: Emmrich, I can't… Emmrich: Please. For the sake of one who's missed your company. Rook: Rest? There's so much… (?): There always is. Don't worry. I won't start without you. Rook: I can't rest, there's too much— (?): Who knows you best? Rook: But there's so much to— (?): Please, Rook. For me. option: Then let's all take a break. Rook: Everything you've done, you all deserve a rest as much as I do. option: Not too long Rook: The gods can wait a little while longer. Rook: Not for too long. But fine, I'll go rest. And hey, it's nice of you to care. (?): You're quite welcome. (?): It's good to have you back. (?): I'm so glad we got you back. (?): It didn't feel right with you gone. (?): Rest well, Rook. Davrin: Assan will be happy to see you. (?): Yep. What they said. (?): I'll see you in a bit.
I wonder how the decision was made to remove this content. This is a scene where LI worries and cares about the player's character. No no no, let's cut it!
I mean, if it's in the localization file and translated into 11 languages, then it was most likely already voiced and implemented in the game.
They really cut so many things of companions showing they care Rook huh
I’ve talked this before but I want to bring it up again.
Do I think there’s lack in Lucanis’ storytelling?
Yes, but I don’t mean romantic ones. There’s already enough dialogues and scenes to convince me his romance is complete and well written.
What I think there’s really lack of is the background. If you didn’t read The Wigmaker Job and The Wake, there would be many things you may misunderstand.
Caterina is a good First Talon but not a traditional kind grandmother. Did she love her grandsons? She did and might thought so, Lucanis convinced himself so, but that’s not what they really are, their relationship contains so many layers more than family.
Illario is not a loser who simply jealous of his cousin, he does love him, care him, support him and yeah, hate him in a complicated way. Lucanis knew this, Teia and Viago knew this.
Our dear Crows are complex, and this is why I thought there’s lack in background information.
If you don’t know the truth that Lucanis didn’t want to be the First Talon, how could you understand his face when Caterina announced he became it.
If you don’t know the dialogue of Lucanis and Illario discussed about the First Talon and Illario’s reaction of Lucanis’ “death”, how could you touched by his tear.
I still don’t understand why they didn’t mention those in game even codex. (if I missed pls tell me, I didn’t have codex collection completed)
I’m not a supporter of “if you want to understand you have to read this this and this”, I believe a good game (also movie or novel and etc) should stand on its own, shouldn’t require any additional reading.
Those missing part made me feel sad bc I knew many ppl thought Illario is an idiot, Caterina is a kind old lady and Antivan Crows is a big warm family. THIS is not players’ fault.
But I still hope you can read The Wigmaker Job, I just love these two Dellamorte, and their conversations are so beautiful.🥲
This was one of the moments pre-confirmation that made me go OH this man is on the ace spectrum huh lol
I finished it! A four pages comedy comic about sword and shield. inspired by The Wigmaker Job, Lucanis did use a sword!
And Davrin, I agree with you, shield is cool!
I just knew Corinne left Bioware and this shocked me bc DATV is the first 3A RPG game made me feel safe as nonbinay. Many games just switch pronouns and that's all, DATV made you been seen, they really considered the thoughts and struggles as a trans, and I will always appreciate this. I can't describe how excited and happy I was when I saw Rook told Lucanis about not to be defined by others, and their conversation with Taash. DATV is not a 10/10 game to me, I have a lot of complaints about it, but this part is perfect.
What’s really jumping out at me on my second playthrough is that the writers of the first three games understood that your character was the main character. The Veilguard writers clearly thought that the main characters were their characters, the companions.
Every scene is about setting the companions up as cool or competent or sympathetic. Often, this is done at Rook’s expense. The companions get all the witty one-liners; Rook’s attempts at humor not only frequently fall flat, but are frequently called out for falling flat (even when they’re completely automatic and the player has no say in them).
The companions have all the knowledge and skills; Rook just brought them all together and gives them all pep talks so they can focus. I’m trying to edit out all of the comments where Rook is like “Um… what????” from my videos, and let me tell you, it takes WORK. There are A LOT of them. I can count on one hand the number of times when the Inquisitor or Hawke comes across as dumb, but it seems to be a built-in, unavoidable part of Rook’s character. I have not selected a single “purple” option in all of Act 1, and Rook is still coming across as the kid who tries to be the class clown to cover for the fact that he’s always confused. Rook’s role in most scenes is to say “Uhhh… what?” so that the companions look smart.
Rook is always the one offering sympathy and never the one getting it. No one actually comes to comfort you after Varric’s death. No one asks you how you’re feeling about having to lead the team now that Varric is gone. No one tries to reassure you or give you advice for dealing with the trickster god haunting your dreams. We’re told that Neve could keep Solas out of your head, but she never actually offers to do this for you. No one comforts a Shadow Dragon Rook when Minrathous is destroyed or a Grey Warden Rook when Weisshaupt is destroyed. Rook’s problems don’t matter. Only the problems of main characters matter.
Rook is a secondary character in their own story.
To that, I might add that everyone is more special and competent than Rook, to the point that I wondered why they're leading at all.
Playing a Mourn Watcher Rook? Emmrich is world renowned and is offered lichdom.
Warden? Davrin has a griffon, leads you to Isseya, leads you through Weisshaupt. He seems to embody the perfect Warden.
Veil Jumper? Bellara is referred to by Strife as the best among them and has a prodigious knowledge of elven artifacts. She rebuilds the eluvian and the archive.
Shadow Dragon? Neve is a renowned detective and is featured often in the papers. She is incredibly badass during her loyalty mission and at the endgame, especially if you blight her and watch her take control back and fight for her city. Neve is written like a protagonist (I wish I could play her as an origin - Neve is who I want to roleplay).
Qunari? Taash is a rare firebreather with deep knowledge of qunari history. Not to mention, they are a favorite of Isabela's, if you're playing Lord of Fortune.
Dwarf? Harding gets magic, not you. She has also been with Varric longer, so why isn't Harding in charge?
Crow? Lucanis is a literal prince of murder, gets to be First Talon. You aren't even a Talon from your own house, because that would be Viago (though I love Viago and would never change him from the role of Rook's "big brother" and trainer in a million years).
You are told that Rook is there because they are tenacious and can make good plans and that's about it. Many of the times though, the plan on what to do next comes from the team. They get intel from their contacts, or know someone to ask etc. Neve gets you in contact with the crows, Harding gets you in contact with Antoine/Evka/Davrin, Morrigan/the Inquisitor & Taash/Isabela, Bellara finds your Fade expert. Bellara and Neve keep up the glamours during the venatori infiltration, my mage didn't even help. There are tons of examples like that which make me think that you could have removed Rook from the story, have Harding reach out to her contacts as usual, and still build the Veilguard and save the world.
I feel that BioWare was trying to make Hawke 2.0 with an every day person who becomes a hero, but.. Hawke never went against world-ending odds. Their story was more contained in Kirkwall and everyone was nearly as much of a disaster as them. Trying to save the world with an unremarkable protagonist surrounded by (and somehow leading) prodigious people didn't quite hit the mark.
I think the lack of suitable roleplay avenues really hinders Rook but I think my biggest take away as I'm almost through my third play through it's Rook isn't SUPPOSED to be the leader. Rook is Han Solo, the plucky side kick who thinks outside the box on Varric's team and then Varric dies and Rook is left, completely out of their depth and is essentially a project manager. My sister is a project manager and while she is very knowledgeable and good at her job, she's basically co-ordinates people who are more specialised than her and wrangles them into getting shit done.
She's the one checking in on everyone making sure they have what they need to hit their targets and keeping them on task and liaising with different departments to make sure they're all working together, and that's essentially what Rook does.
Exactly what I want to say.
I don’t like to talk about this but play as a Shadow Dragon mage Rook only makes this feel more bigger since Neve is so obviously near the main character in the story. Everyone love her and she is so powerful as a tevinter mage, every companion cared for her after Minrathous/Treviso choice etc. especially These dialogues options: ask our mage/ask Neve really annoying me sorry.
I love Neve, she’s the one I want to get known before the game release and I’m a strong Neve/Bellara shipper once I heard her calling Bellara “Bel” . So don’t call me a Neve hater bc my Rook is a shadow and romanced Lucanis.
I knew this is not her fault, it’s the devs who obsessed with their own characters not Rook and they literally can’t balance these.
sth about my Rookanis #01 Nels is a little bit higher than Lucanis
I was thinking open a little gift for your support (likings reblogs comments and askings!), I’m so happy I got so many responses, these mean a lot to a person who has big self doubts problems like me 😢
So, maybe a black and white doodle of your Rook? If this is okay with you…!
And I’m sorry I probably only have time to draw limited numbers(like 6?), I literally hate my job, it’s the biggest obstacle to my drawing 😭 But maybe I’ll draw more and make this regular! I do love to see other’s Rook <3
Leave comments with your Rook and I’ll pick 6 in time sequence 💜
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