We are looking for artists, writers and other roles for our Alternative Good Omens Finale fan project
Hello!! We're doing a Good Omens fan animation project in a Discord server* of about 40 people at the moment, and it is headed by @comicgeekery and another admin. We've already gathered some main ideas for the script, and now we are looking for more people who want to take part in this fan project. It isn't mandatory to join the Discord server in order to take a role, although it would be recommendable.
Which roles are needed?
-We've got plenty of writers already, so we won't need anymore.
-At the moment, there is a high demand for artist or/and animators of any kind. So, if you're into drawing, painting or animating, give it a chance!
-We'll also need people in charge of social media and the Discord server itself, such as admins and mods.
-If you are a musician, voice actor, translator, composer, sound designer, video editor, or you fit other similar role which may be needed for the final stages of the project, don't hesitate to join us!
How to apply?
If you're interested, you just have to fill in this form:
This form is to help us determine what skill sets we have in our group as well as how we want to assign roles. There's a lot of work to do i
*link to join the Discord server:
Edit: this link has expired. To avoid bots getting into the server, please DM me if you want to get access to it and I'll share the new link with you.
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One of the only popular Good Omens critiques I do not agree with was that the show shouldn't have made Aziraphale and Crowley central characters. Personally, I loved that they became so prominent, and not just because of the romance. I know they were only ensemble cast characters in the book, but they were easily some of the most interesting ones, not to mention that they opened up the story and Crowley drove the Antichrist plot, so it makes sense to emphasize them. Theyāre also the only characters who are directly involved with heaven and hell, so heightening their story to create a solid through line between the Antichrist story and planned second coming story was smart writing.
What I donāt agree with was obliterating every other character, excluding all book 1 characters from the subsequent seasons, forgetting that Adam still has his powers at the end of the story, ignoring the role of witchcraft and prophecy in their world, and making Aziraphale and Crowley more important than all of humanity by having them decide the fate of the universe. I also donāt agree with the story suddenly becoming only about them and not about human characters at all. Their sequel should have been them hanging out with Jesus and some freaky humans, supporting Christ as he took a stand against God and saved the world, then ended with a āwhere are they nowā montage of every character enjoying the rest of their lives, not just a south downs scene.
I enjoyed season 2, but if we wanted an actual sequel and not just a season that looks like another different show rather than a continuation of the previous story, yeah. It should have involved humanity more than it did (but in a sensible way and without free will speech and bullshit , thank you very much). Nina and Maggie had a too plain story in comparison to Anathema and the Them, for instance.
We really needed Terry for this show to have a proper sequel, although I'm not so sure Terry would have approved a Good Omens TV show anymore, even less a sequel.
i still don't think I've fully processed the implications of the Crowley-as-an-angel scene and how it shows that he's been trying to prevent armageddon since before time even began. he heard that 6000-year universal age limit and immediately knew what it meant. it was the first thing he did "wrong", the cause of his first and oldest and deepest wound, it's "you can't kill kids", it's his deeply held belief that it's not acceptable to create just to destroy. he tries to stop it before it even begins and he Falls, he tries again after the first 6000 years & temporarily succeeds. he says let's run away but he hasn't yet, and it's hard to imagine he actually will.
S3 essentially says that the s1, the main and best one, based on the original book, has no meaning.
Ask yourself, why s1, just like the book, begins with God saying: āTo understand the true nature of what is happening, we need to go back to the beginning. Namely, to the garden. In this case, the Garden of Edenā?
Because in that scene, humans discover free will, and along with it, they hold the flaming sword in their hands for the first time, the same sword that will later be in the hands of War.
Free will. That is the true essence of everything that is happening, at least in the book and s1.
And now Crowley suddenly wants āfree will to be the real thingā???
On the matter of tags: an earnest attempt to communicate
As a random member of the Good Omens fandom community, Iād just like to toss my hat into the ring and attempt to clear up some misunderstandings. I also want to encourage some honest, good-faith dialogue in a severely fractured fandom.
This is not an attempt to convince anyone to interpret the finale a specific way. This is a practical conversation about how we discuss the finale in fan spaces.
For the purposes of this discussion, I will be focusing on tags as they are used on social media platforms like Tumblr, Twitter, Bluesky, and Instagram. AO3 tagging is considerable more complex and warrants a whole convo in its own right, so I won't focus on that here.
THIS POST INCLUDES DISCUSSION OF SUICIDE.
So, tags. Tags have become a thorny issue in the Good Omens fandom. I suspect this issue is so pertinent now, two months after the finale aired, because most of us have dropped āGO3 spoilersā tags, which people would have been filtering out if they did not wish to see anything from the finale. The finale is no longer a fresh commodity, so we are all trying to determine for ourselves what the next phase of our engagement with fandom will look like.
In fandom spaces, tags are a courtesy. No one can force anyone to use tags, of course. But tagging is a long-running standard of fandom etiquette across multiple online platforms. Tags are tools that help us find or filter out specific content. But what happens when we disagree on what tags should even be used in the first place? When tags themselves are a battleground?
I have seen assumptions that finale dislikers are demanding that all content with Asa Fell and Professor Anthony Crowley be tagged with āsuicide.ā It's possible that Iāve missed some significant conversations, but as someone on the disliker side, I have not seen anyone demand that Asanthony shippers use a "suicide" tag on all their posts featuring Asanthony. If anyone has asked that, I agree that it would be unreasonable! But I strongly suspect this perception comes from a game of fandom telephone in which different conversations are being conflated.
What IS being asked:
All content featuring Asa and Anthony should be tagged with their names or their ship name, Asanthony.
The "ineffable husbands" ship name should not be used for Asanthony.
Content warnings are strongly encouraged when sharing visuals of the scene where God grants Crowley and Aziraphaleās request to be removed from existence, specifically the moments as they disintegrate, as this decision is interpreted by many fans as a suicide.
Letās address that first point now.
Tagging Asanthony as "Asanthony" makes sense. I think most people are already doing this. If youāre not doing this, wellā¦ I strongly advise you to reconsider. Tags arenāt just for those filtering out content, but for those seeking it. Someone who doesnāt want to see Asanthony can use this tool to avoid them, and someone who is specifically seeking out Asanthony content can use the tag to find them and share some appreciation.
Where we have some disagreement is the second point listed above: whether Asanthony deserve to be tagged with the general āineffable husbandsā ship name as well. I donāt think weāre ever going to agree on this one. Some people do see them as the same ship, and others do not. Personally Iām someone who does not see Asanthony as "ineffable," but I am okay to concede on someone using the general ship tag for them, as it really does boil down to one's own interpretation. In my view, so long as "Asanthony" is also used, tag them as you see fit.
Now for the third point. This is where I'll be talking about suicide.
Suicide is obviously an incredibly sensitive and distressing subject, one that is highly likely to carry a personal resonance for many fans on all sides of the GO3 debate. I understand why people are upset to have to bring this subject up in their tags when they do not see the final scene that way.
But if you do find it upsetting to even consider using that tag... that means you agree that this topic is distressing, yes? The ineffables' decision was genuinely genuinely distressing for people who interpreted their choice as a suicide. I am pleading with you to understand this: there are members of our community who struggle with suicide ideation, and that scene genuinely triggered some of these people.
You donāt like to see this tag imposed. Well, others donāt like to suddenly come across visuals that in their view shows a suicide. Not seeing Crowley and Aziraphale's decision as a suicide is just as much an interpretation as seeing it as a suicide is.
We will never agree on our interpretations of Crowley and Aziraphale's final request to God and how it played out. The fact remains that the scene where they make this choice and it is granted is triggering to a significant portion of the fandom. This is not a niche opinion.
We won't be able to reconcile our views on this. But we do have to share fandom spaces together. Blocking others who have a different approach to discussing this scene is always an option. But maybe we can also attempt to reach a middle ground in the form of a tag.
I have chatted with others about this, and an idea I have seen discussed is for the fandom to come up with a neutral term for the scene where God grants Crowley and Aziraphale's request, akin to how we settled on āthe Final Fifteenā for the last fifteen minutes of season 2. This term should not favour one interpretation over another.
Some suggestions:
The Final Half Hour (orā¦ the Final Twenty? How long is this scene? Anyone clocked it?)
The Decision
Weāve Come to a Decision (WCTOAD? Well, I do like toads)
Please chime in if you have other suggestions!
Like I said at the top, no one can force anyone to use tags. This is ultimately down to one's own discretion.
But I think it's fair to say that our fandom is currently in crisis. The community has fractured ā or perhaps it is simply going through some very nasty growing pains. Maybe we can grow with it.
We will never be in a place where we all agree on GO3ās choices. Right now, we are all figuring out how we want to navigate this story and fandom we have all come to love. However we feel about the finale, we are all trying to find new ways forward.
We can argue about whoās right. We can block as we see fit. We can tag or not tag according to our own interpretation to make a point.
We can also decide to make productive choices that will help us all navigate our fandom spaces moving forward. Above all else, we can choose to be kind.
If you've read this far, thank you for hearing me out.
As someone who was triggered Iām begging you please, use tags. When I say triggered I donāt mean it made me sad or uncomfortable I mean it caused panic attacks, dissociation or a mental health crisis that required immediate support from my therapist.
Iāve had to leave bluesky entirely because the point blank refusal to use tags over there made using that platform unsafe for me. And I know Iām not the only one. Think about that for a minute. Some of you made what was a safe fandom space unsafe and unusable for part of your community.
I get it, some of you are sensitive about your head canons being criticised but your personal interpretation is not more important than someone elseās safety.
I keep seeing wildly ableist posts saying things likeāYouāre too mentally ill to be in fandom spaceā or that āYouāre the problem so I should leave,ā and you know what, no. I have been using online fandom spaces since Doctor Who rebooted in 2005 and Iāve been on Tumblr since 2007 and this has never been a problem. Why? Because people cared about supporting vulnerable people in their community. This community used to care about supporting vulnerable people.
"In a story about Armageddon it's stupendous marvelous writing to actually let armageddon happen it defies the expectations GENIUS!!!!"
I don't know you, but what I'm expecting from a story that is a comedy about stopping Armageddon, is that despite all the odds, Armageddon gets stopped. Possibly in a humorous way.
Having Armageddon happen and call it defying the odds and expectations is fundamentally not understanding how stories work: you give me an ineluctable outcome, then our heroes triumph despite everything. That's defying the expectation. Transforming a comedy that had already defied the odds into a pointless tragedy that is a bad copycat of the previous story? It's boring storytelling.
Letting everything go to kingdom come IS the expected outcome, am I supposed to be positively impressed lol?
There's a quote from TP on stories and hope that lives rent free in my head, long before this finale even came out, it just explains what I love about stories and books in general.
Free reign to say Jk Rowling is a predator who shared an upskirt picture of a trans woman and said she shouldn't have worn a skirt if she didn't want to be sexually harassed, enjoys the company of open child predators, and thinks Lolita is a tragic romance story. She is a danger to women and children.
You know, I genuinely love almost all of Season 2 (with the exception of the pre-Fall flashback), especially the historical flashbacks.
But if that ending was always meant to be the price... I would have been perfectly happy with just Season 1.
As much as I love season 2, the price of its existence turned out to be far too high. Not only did we get a terrible ending, but the fandom ended up permanently divided because of it.
God am I glad to be in a corner of this fandom where I mostly hear about the fighting over liking/disliking the finale, and very rarely see any of it.
Are we really at the point of arguing over whether "character death" is a thing you need to tag when talking about it? Or people gleefully triggering those who have problems with self-harm or suicide, telling them to get out of the fandom if they don't like it? When, btw, the people who liked or loved it are the minority, but get to dictate how the people who didn't like it have to act? What the hell?
Hello?
What happened to this?
What happened to the fandom where people helped and supported each other after the F15, no matter how much we disagreed on what it meant? Remember when, a week or so after the finale aired, the "haters" came up with a tag so the "lovers" could filter it out, so we wouldn't rain on their parades? Remember when we found out that some people were bullying other fans on a private server, being trans- and aphobic, and we shut that down? Remember when we agreed not to let a rapist rule this fandom? Remember when we took care of each other and made sure everyone was welcome?
This is my first fandom. The first time I actually engage with a fannish community. And I was so glad to have stumbled upon one that was so kind, so supportive, so non-toxic, so welcoming - especially after I heard what other fandoms are like.
I'd like to go back to that, please.
If you liked it, I'm glad, I really am! You deserve to find happiness in things! If you, like me, disliked it, that's valid, too. You deserve to be comforted.
It has definitely saddened me to see some of the conflict and hurt being perpetuated by fans after the finale. For years, I have enjoyed and so loved the kindness and support and openness of this fandom. I hope that going forward, we can all remember where we came from and the inherent kindness and hope and love that is in this story. Good omens is so important to all of us and everyone deserves kindness and grace in how they are processing it. However you feel is completely okay, as long as you are not hurting others when expressing it.
I have hope that a huge part of that original good omens fandom is still here. That there are still so many of us left that are filling it with the kindness and comfort and support we all need. I promise my little corner of it will always be welcome to everyone. There is still so much love in this fandom. And I hope those who need it will continue to find it here.
I miss when ads were a single click and then theyāre gone. Now every ad has a minimum of three phases where you watch a video, exit the still frame of fake gameplay, and then exit the app download. That doesnāt even touch on the ones that forcibly take you to another app after opening a tab in safari without you ever touching the screen.
I hate advertising. I hate that you canāt do anything without companies jumping down your throat with mostly bullshit ads. I hate that billboards exist. I hate that every company unanimously decided to make their ads longer and longer. I hate that ad blockers try to charge you money and there are in app purchases to remove ads. I hate that my attention has become commodified. I hate that thereās nothing I can do about it.
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