Head of the Dragon of Infinity

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Here is my best explanation on why Six dropped Mono:

---------------Context: This is copy and pasted from a comment I made on Tericho’s part 2 Shadow Six video where he unfortunately joined the ‘pin all of the blame of the world’s distortion on Six and only Six’ party, and the whole 'the world's distortion is all Six's fault' argument is the one that pisses me off the most. I pointed out that Mono not releasing Thin Man and Thin Man not kidnapping Six could've also prevented the time loop, but some people replied saying that if Six didn't betray Mono then Thin Man wouldn't exist. I replied showing some information that David Mervik gave in an interview that Tericho failed to look at, while also using all of the official answers that the devs gave us on why Six dropped Mono, in-game stuff that is mostly ignored and a few other things that few people consider. I’ve already copy and pasted this explanation of mine a couple of times on the LN subreddit, on Six’s page on the fandom wiki and a post I made on the LN community on Amino, so I thought I’d put it here too for more people to see and gain some new insight as people have told me that my explanation is a good one. Without further ado, here is my copy and pasted reply, and quick warning, this will be a bit long so prepare yourself:-------------

I need to mention this point to debunk the ‘The world’s distortion is all Six’s fault argument’, which as I said is the one that pisses me off the most, as it shows that while it’s unclear how it works, that Thin Man existed before Mono’s cycle began. I’ll kind of get back to this later.

So here are all of the answers that the devs would give us on why Six dropped Mono:

1:

The LN Twitter shed a bit more light on this:

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3:

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And so with all of these breadcrumbs, here is my best explanation on why Six dropped Mono:

These point to the reason why she let go of Mono is because the way he forced her back into the reality she hated against her will. Because the music box in the signal tower put Six into a fantasy that she didn't want to be separated from, similar to the viewers with the tvs. And what happens when you interrupt the fantasy that the TVs give the viewers? The viewers turn hostile, just like Six when Mono begins to smash the music box. The only difference is that the viewers will try to kill Mono if he disturbs them without turning off the TVs too, but Six initially shares her escapism and fantasy with Mono, she wanted Mono to join her in the fantasy too, and when he begins to force her out of it she then turns hostile. And like the Twitter said: the more of us understand the pain Mono caused Six than we realise.

And remember, the two of them used to call to each other as safety and communication, and now Mono is using that calling system against her. Mono shouts at Six to get to her music box to break it, and each time he hits it Six hunches over and screams in pain, so every hit to the music box causes Six physical pain. Mono tortured Six in his attempt to save her in signal tower. Sure it may be a necessary evil, but that's easily said when you're not the one on the receiving end of said torture, and for her own good or not it was still torturous for Six.

And so finally, after being kidnapped and practically torn in half (Shadow Six's creation) by the monster that Mono let out (and Six tried to prevent that from happening), being twisted and turned into a monster, torturously forced back to the reality she hated by Mono, given no time to process what just happened because the flesh walls start giving chase immediately afterwards and just barely managing to get onto the ledge near the exit - do you really think that an already mentally ill 9 year old kid would be in the right state of mind to think rationally and make a well thought out decision? Especially when everything around her is literally still collapsing? The platform that Six was on broke off and fell shortly after she began entering the exit, so whether she knew that would happen or not either way she had to think fast but was not in the right state of mind to think rationally, so she let go.

Obviously none of this justifies Mono getting dropped, but it explains why she did it and shows that it's not really her fault, it's not Mono's fault either because he didn't know that the Thin Man was behind the door and it seemed like breaking the music box was the only way to get Six out of the Signal Tower. And like Mervik said, they both have different perspectives on this:

Mono sees this as "I was trying to help her and this how she thanks me?"

And Six sees it as "I tried to stop him from releasing a monster from the TV that tore something out of me and took me to a horrible place that tortured me and turned me into a monster but took me to a fantasy that helped ease my pain. Later my friend came and I was so excited to see him again despite him releasing a monster that did this to me and even offered him to join me in the fantasy, but instead he forces me back to the reality that I hate. No matter how much I screamed from the pain, he kept doing it anyway. After everything I did for him, this is the thanks I get?"

Of course we play the game as Mono, so we get only his perspective of this, making it biased since the game doesn't easily offer Six's perspective of this.

So in conclusion: there was once a Thin Man that wasn't Mono, so Thin Man's existence isn't Six's doing. Thin Man's, Mono's AND Six's actions ALL cause the cycle to repeat, but none of them were in the right state of mind or knew that any of this would happen, so it's neither of their fault. What happened on that ledge was all a misunderstanding and miscommunication didn't help in that regard, but of course the signal tower ensured that this would happen because the flesh walls subtly help Mono make it to the ledge to ensure that Six dropping him does happen, because if he falls into the pit normally it just goes back to the previous checkpoint, the game only continued when Mono gets betrayed by Six. The Signal Tower needed Mono to be broken by Six's betrayal to infect him with escapism and turn him into Thin Man. It also needed Six to not be in the state of mind to think rationally, so every hit to the music box caused Six pain and tortured her and it began chasing immediately afterwards to make sure that Mono couldn't explain to Six why he did that. Only after an unknown number of years does it offer escapism to Mono, now Thin Man, being 

so he goes back to the past and betrays Six by kidnapping her and creating Shadow Six, whatever Shadow Six might be. Keep in mind that this version of Six was innocent; she did nothing wrong to Mono at that point, so it's grossly unfair for Mono to lash out at her for betraying him because this version of Six didn't do that yet. And whether it was out of vengeance or for a 'second chance', Six didn't consent to being taken away to the Signal Tower, so Mono's actions of kidnapping the innocent version of Six is both selfish of him and betraying her. And in doing so it allowed the Signal Tower to set up its trap for young Mono again.

So Mono and Six betrayed each other, and the Signal Tower wanted this to happen. Since neither of them knew that this would happen, and didn't intend for everything to turn out like this, it's neither of their fault.

Apologies that this is an essay, but this everything I have to say about why the blame shouldn't be pinned on Six or Mono. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk, hope you enjoyed.

Bonus. If anyone is still asking why Six are the Nome instead of the sausage, the devs have already answered this too:

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Reference (not made by me):

I wonder how often Saturn feels like this

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I KIHU-HU-HU-HU-LLED MY MOONS-SUH! 😭 (Multilanguage)

I did this just for fun, so I'm not taking requests. Plus the Philippines channel doesn't have this episode (along with a vast majority of the show's episodes).

Which language version of this scene do you find the best?

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Sun's talk with Earth and Luna from the new episode but with a couple songs from 'The Earth's Redemption'

I don't know how to remove background music, especially without affecting the sound effects and characters' voices, so the songs are pretty much just played on top.

I only know 3 of the songs from 'The Earth's Redemption':

Curved Mirror - Charcoal Stream

Plan B - Lalo Brickman

Can you see - Real Heroes

I hope you guys like it despite the amateur editing

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Some photos I took of my Saturn plushy a couple days ago. Wearing various hats I have and befriending a bunch of Pokemon.

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My drawing for the 9 year anniversary of LN1 (AKA Six's birthday). Now Six is officially 9 years old!

(I haven’t drawn any Little Nightmares characters for a while, so it probably looks a bit sloppy)

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I feel like the Planet Revolution is sorely lacking in memes, so I made a couple.

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A little follow-up of this but it's @toonjazzy's biggest gripe against the sun.

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Titan's guilt in @toonjazzy's style.

I wanted to redraw my 'Titan's guilt' drawing but with the characters in toonjazzy's style.

@toonjazzy, are Saturn's lines still so chilling? Really curious

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Took a while, but I decided to consider this finished

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Probably not how it'll go canonically, but this is what I imagined for the events in the present for the Chrysalis/Saturn arc.

I'll leave how Saturn became unconscious up to your interpretation.

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I opened Photoshop to make this as soon as I could when I heard this.

How many baby mommas did Saturn get busy with?! And how much does he get paid in child support?! /hj

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The Prophecy

"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it" - Master Oogway

Now that the Planet Revolution has finally come, I just had to make a comic where Ganymede's threat foretold how the Sun was going through a self-fulfilling prophecy; he's super strict with his planets' safety because he doesn't want to lose anymore planets, but his strictness ends up driving his planets away anyway.

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Can make the solar system on a picnic?

Here. I decided to use this as my birthday drawing!

A nice respite for all the planets and their moons.

Here is much better look at the assets I made for the planets (and Luna).

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Hey there,buddy.

Can you draw my planet OC Nertriza?

She and her moons!

You can draw Nertriza with Uranus(she's good and friendly girl)

Here you go! Sorry that it took so long to get to, there's a lot of other things I'm occupied with.

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Could astrodude be in the planet revolution? I’m sure he’d be a big help for the planet army. Cause imagine how useful he would be to the planets if he gave them the earthling technology. It would make it easier for the planet revolution.

I don't really know and I don't really care about Astrodude that much.

The closest thing I can think of Earthling technology being utilised by the planets is whatever allows the Earthlings/us to observe 93 billion light years of the universe, which I'm sure the rogues would particually find useful. Plus the moons didn't use any Earthling technology during their own revolution. But I think a status quo of the series is that no Earthlings except for Astrodude (and maybe Houston) can ever learn that celestial bodies are sentient.

If you mean Earthling technology big enough for the planets to use themselves, I'm not too keen on the idea because it pushes the plausibility too much.

[Rant ahead]:

Annoyingly, I see people asking stupid questions that you're not meant to ask. The most frequent one for Solarballs is 'Why aren't asteroids sentient?'. Asteroids are used as props, weapons, etc. The planets once made a cake out them for Astrodude, had popcorn buckets of them during the race between X and the moons, and countless asteroids were thrown at people, i.e Earth and Mars' games of asteroid dodgeball, the asteroid dodgeball challenge between X and the moons, and the moons bombarding Mars and Venus and nearly Earth with them. If asteroids were sentient when the characters do this stuff with them, it'd be horrifying, and there'd be a pretty high kill count.

Another one I've seen is 'Why do the characters have things like chalkboards, pens, pencils, notepads, etc'. Answer is that it's a cartoon, cartoons give us the freedom to not have to follow real life logic to a T. While yes there should be limits, there should also be no questioning the logic. Like 'Why can characters defy gravity until they look down?', 'How can characters make their eyes pop out of their sockets and grow absurdly huge when they're screaming?', 'How can a character get hit on the head with an anvil and survive or not get brain damage?'

IT'S A CARTOON! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO ASK THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS! ASKING THESE TYPE OF QUESTIONS JUST RUINS IT FOR YOU!

So if there were Earthling gadgets big enough for the planets to use themselves I'm certain that some people in the fandom will complain about it and we'd never hear the end of it.

Excuse the rant but the fandom really gets on my nerves sometimes.

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'The Council of Planets' ramble

So I unexpectedly and unintentionally wound up partially predicting a part of the Planet Revolution arc again, which I'm making this post to ramble about.

The moment in this episode that I unintentionally partially predicted is the moment where the planets are all gathered in the outer solar system and reconcile with each other (and Mercury finally apologises to Earth about the 'stunt' comment) and the idea of a Planet Revolution starts brewing. I'm going to call this moment 'The Council of Planets' because it's the closest canon equivalent of a plot crucial episode from my scrapped imaginary Planet Revolution arc, which is also titled 'The Council of Planets'.

Below, I'll share what happens in my imagined 'Council of Planets', though do note that this was thought up during the Theia arc, so some of the hatred I had towards most of the moons (at the time) contributed to how it plays out:

Quick background before the 'episode': Earth and the other planets are banished from the solar system by the sun, who decides to keep the moons (minus Luna, Metis and Charon) as the new planets while the true planets, dwarf planets (minus Ceres) and the three aforementioned moons are all banished. Before they leave, the sun creates a little substitute sun (which is portable and not sentient) to keep earth and his inhabitants alive. The next episode is 'The Council of Planets':

Before the Planet Revolution but after the solar system planets are banished (remember Earth still has Luna and the little substitute sun to keep his inhabitants alive), they settle down somewhere in deep space and make what is the closest to a space equivalent of a campfire (a light and heat source separate from Earth's substitute sun) and are feeling down and betrayed about being banished and replaced by the moons. One by one, the planets voice the grievances they have towards each other, making it reminiscent of the campfire scene from the Avatar: The Last Airbender episode 'The beach' (spoilers for ATLA, but here's a link to it to give you a good idea of how my imaginary episode goes: https://youtu.be/wIJ1W3SYTIY?si=RCodSeTIlTdw9RZE).

Here's how it goes:

-Earth challenges Mars and Venus if they would've stood up for him during the moon revolution if he didn't have life (this one was influenced by people in the fandom who think that the planets only care about earth because he has life). As well as hurt that everyone kept Theia and Proto Earth a secret from him (and Luna), though he does understand now that hearing Theia's name used to trigger him. He also apologises again for pitting Mars and Venus against one another for his friendship during the moon revolution

-Mars, hurt by Earth's doubt, answers that yes he would've still stood up for Earth against the moons even if he didn't have life, reminding him of their friendship from even before Earth had life. Mars' other grievances are that he hates how the Earthlings treat their planet and see him (Mars) as a backup to ruin when they're done with Earth, stating that he doesn't want life, especially since he remembers how much pain Astrodude caused him when trying to Terraform him.

-Venus speaks out that at least Mars is a potential candidate for life at all while he (Venus) is arguably the most deadly to life and that he once had the chance to have life too but was robbed of it.

-Mercury then interjects, saying that if they're talking about grievances then they shouldn't exclude him (Mercury) again, his grievances being how he was always excluded from the rocky planets' activities until after the moon revolution, Venus's unrelenting bully, being called a 'Pluto' for being small and him being the sun's plaything.

[The rockies apologise to each other for all of the above, including Mercury apologising to Earth about his 'stunt' comment.]

-Mars apologises to Jupiter for being so quick to paint him as a monster when the Grand Tack was exposed, the other rockies also join in on apologising to Jupiter for judging him so quickly.

-Jupiter accepts their apologies, admitting that he'd wanted to confess about it for so long but was afraid of what the sun would do, as well as voicing how the sun expected him to be the role model, feeling pressure that he wasn't allowed to fail because of it.

-Mars mentions that he eavesdropped on Jupiter and Saturn when Ganymede and Europa were first banished and figured out that Saturn knew about the Grand Tack and ejection of X. Saturn silently admits it by nodding, and Jupiter confirms Mars' suspicion, stating that he stopped Saturn from confessing when Planet X came back because he knew that he himself was already doomed to be banished and wanted Saturn to be spared that, as well as knowing that the solar system would become unstable without him as is, and that if Saturn was banished too it'd become even more unstable.

-Uranus goes next, speaking about how he was always made fun of because of his name and sometimes his smell. He adds that he wanted to be friends with Jupiter and/or Saturn and how his rings are always ignored in favour of Saturn's, especially since he's had rings longer than Saturn did (though he adds that he can't fault Saturn too much for it since Saturn didn't even know where his rings came from so it's unlikely that Saturn stole the idea).

-Uranus then tries to ask Neptune if he has any grudges to share, but Neptune being Neptune says no so Uranus decides to voice one for him: Neptune's isolating orbit, allowing madness to become his normal, but he doesn't exclude his own inaction of being there for Neptune.

-They turn to Saturn, who had remained silent the entire time, urging him to speak of any grievances. He's reluctant, believing that he has no right to do so, saying that everyone else's are worse, but they tell him that it's not about who suffered more, they persuade him, saying that he doesn't need to keep it bottled up and that this was the time and place to be open, no matter how big or small his grievances may be.

-Saturn relents, he laments his memory issues causing his moons pain by forgetting their names, voices the pressure that holding onto 274 (or rather 146 since the new ones are still not acknowledged in the show) moons puts on him, adding how his high moon count allowed Titan to slip away from him and begin the moon revolution behind his back and that the rest of his moons followed suit when he was looking for Titan. He also bemoans that his moons tried a meet and greet with him to try and get him to learn their names but he failed that too. He then confesses to being Jupiter's accomplice in the ejection of Planet X and that he kept urging Jupiter to stay quiet about it despite seeing how much it ate him alive.

-Saturn also tells them that Jupiter had tried to warn Planet X about the new rocky planets that were forming when X tried to approach the sun to tell about the Grand Tack but X didn't yield, so Jupiter used his gravity to hold him back, called for Saturn to help him, Saturn came but their gravities together caused X to accidentally be ejected. Saturn then asks Jupiter why he didn't let him mention this part when X first came back, to which Jupiter answers that the others would've figured out that Saturn was involved in it. Saturn then says that he should've been punished too instead Jupiter taking all of the blame and punishment alone.

-Saturn also expresses sorrow that he didn't know that his rings were made of moon debris and was hurt that his moons hated for it, even if he understood why. He then talks about how he failed to stop Earth from trying to follow Jupiter as well as failing to keep the Asteroid Belt together and hiding the fact that Jupiter left to go after Uranus from the sun. That he had to choose between two tasks but ultimately failed both of them, which gets him to ask them why they even bother keeping him around when all he does is fail (Jupiter comforts him, telling him that something inevitably would've gone wrong no matter what Saturn would've done, as well reminding Saturn how he still kept trying despite his previous failures).

-Saturn's final grievance is how Uranus sees him as a placeholder, given how Uranus really wanted to take his orbit and be the 'New Saturn'.

-Jupiter then turns the the dwarf planets (who consist of Pluto, Charon, Eris, Haumea and Makemake) to urge them to speak of any grievances they have. The other dwarfs don't really have any but they do express shame about letting Ceres into their circle, unaware of what he was capable of until they saw him attacking a comatose Earth in the Kuiper Belt with asteroids.

-Pluto speaks up how Charon ignored his warnings about Ceres, and how hurt he was about the planets ghosting him when he was demoted and turning his name into an insult for being small.

-The other dwarf planets voice that they didn't really mind about being excluded, content with their own little circle, but back Pluto up by saying that he deserved better from the planets since he has history with them.

And after everything is said, they all apologise to each other. And during these apologies, Earth tells Pluto about how a number of his Earthlings never stopped believing that Pluto was a planet, which gets a chuckle out Pluto. Earth then thanks him and Charon for stopping the moon revolution and asks him to gather the other dwarf planets because he has something to share with all of them. Pluto does so and Earth tells the dwarf planets about how his inhabitants discovered many dwarf planet candidates and names a bunch of them (remember, this was thought up during the Theia arc, so long before Sedna, Orcus, Quaoar and Gonggong were added, though Earth also names Salacia, Varuna and Varda in this too).

The dwarfs are stunned to learn that there are more like them and thank Earth for sharing this information with them.

They all feel much better now that they've let their pain out and they feel like they've learned more about themselves and each other. But the feelings of anger and hurt from the sun and moons still lingers and they realise that they're all still banished.

This music then starts playing:

They also realise that a number of their problems were because of the sun, as well as how he treated them like toys like switching their orbits to be ordered by size when Mercury got to join in on Space Poker for the first time.

They realise the moons' hypocrisy (forgetting names, insulting each other, inflicting violence, kidnapping each other). And pointing out how the moons did those things knowingly and intentionally but got away with all of it, while they (the planets) were crucified even when their cases were accidental, unknown, or both and apologized multiple times while the moons never apologized even once. As well as betrayal that the moons replaced them without a care when they had to stop Uranus from leaving and Earth from following Jupiter.

They also express anger at the sun for allowing all of it and shooting solar flares to keep them in line, as well as sometimes even when they’re not doing anything wrong.

As their bitterness towards the sun and moons festers, they decide to make Ganymede's threat of a Planet Revolution become real.

[Episode end, though this music keeps playing in the outro]

So there. I've gone on for a while, but I really wanted to write about the 'Council of Planets' moment in the new episode and the one from my scrapped imaginary Planet Revolution arc. Thanks for reading!