This is going to be so long, but I need you guys to realise the absolute shithousery, the grasping of straws mv stans like to pull to defend their driver when they could just acknowledge that their driver messed up, that that acknowledgement doesn't mean they have to stop stanning him, that they don't have to call out people who are holding these privileged drivers accountable, that if they actually called their driver out we would like them a lot better and #anti verstappen wouldn't be a thing because we wouldn't have to call him out if his stans were already doing it.
Also the person who responded to me blocked me I think because I couldn't access their reblog after a while but I did screenshot it.
"Well, maybe Max is right. Maybe it isn't his problem"
The moment I read this statement I realised the gall, the absolute audacity of the person I was talking to. When someone says ableist slurs and you're starting your statement off with 'maybe he's right' or maybe it isn't 'his problem' that a group of marginalised people who've been discriminated their whole life are upset by the fact that someone they might have admired has just said that on live TV in front of countless children and adults who are now being influenced by his words, then maybe you're the one in the wrong @seeyoufkinglaterson.
Also, I think it's ironic that you're essentially agreeing that he didn't apologise for his words. At first you were like 'he apologised' after realising he didn't actually apologise, you're doubling down by saying 'oh but it isn't his fault is it' frankly, the audacity is outstanding.
"People were blowing out of proportion a word that isn't such a big deal in his culture"
They weren't blowing anything out of proportion, these are words people have had to grapple with their whole lives, words that have hurt themselves personally, members of their family, their friends or even people of their community and you're saying that a public sportsperson being criticised (because it definitely wasn't hate - it was gentle criticism that devolved into hate because 'it isn't my problem') is blowing things out of proportion.
As for his fucking culture, yes he grew up in a society where it was okay for him to use that language without anyone really educating or calling him out on it. But he's a global athlete (literally) and if that language is so commonly used by Dutch people he must have slipped up in real life in front of his British/Australian/Canadian (Fluently English speaking) colleagues and they must have schooled him - because this language is so commonly used right? Also, he's used ableist language before (see 2017) and so he has no excuse for 2020 - he knew exactly what he was saying. So let's stop talking about his culture, because honestly, it's not the excuse/explanation you think it is.
"British media loves to push the 'Verstappen bad!!!!' narrative"
Not really, they just call out Max for what he does. The brake check - yeah that was unacceptable driving and should be called out, especially that joke of a penalty. Calling out ableist language - yeah? if you think that discriminatory language shouldn't be called out than you really need to sort your priorities out. Calling out the objectification of women by suggesting that Kelly is just a 'thing' that he bought isn't 'Verstappen bad' it's the truth. If you think being called out for these truthful and also problematic incidents is 'Verstappen bad' then you haven't seen the articles calling Lewis and Yuki's team radios aggressive and perpetuating the 'angry black man' and 'aggressive Asian driver' stereotype that has existed within British Media for a long time - in fact, Kamui Kobayashi was called out for aggressive driving when he wasn't at all. Pascal Wehrlein was apparently too hight maintenance for F1 (everyone who's ever met him refuted this statement). So 'Verstappen bad' isn't a thing, you just think people calling out your driver for what he's done is bad.
"You're the ones who are putting importance on words and attaching your labels to them"
I don't know if you're aware but words DO have meanings and they do have connotations attached to them - if they didn't we wouldn't be communicating as we do. This is such a nonargument that I'm not even going to talk about it that much. I just want to say that if you really think that, than maybe you should stop attaching labels to words and putting importance on them. So next time someone calls max 'slurstappen', 'human error champion', 'mv0', or 'crashstappen' or his stans 'slurstannies' it shouldn't bother you, because you really should stop putting importance on words and attaching your labels on them - or is that only applicable to max, are his words the only words we can't put importance on and attach our labels to? For the record - I don't think people should use those words to describe Max but if you don't want to put importance on words or attach labels to them than you do do.
"when really all Max did was blurt out a couple of swear words because Lance Stroll made a rather questionable manoeuvre that caused contact. Similar to road rage, that I'm sure anyone who has ever been on a road had felt when the person in front of us does something dangerous."
Max didn't just 'blurt out a couple of swear words' if it was just swear words, this would be such a nonissue because everyone swears on their team radios. What he did was use ableist slurs in response to Lance Stroll's 'questionable manoeuvre' that isn't normal. You can swear and be an aggressive person on your team radios because it's such a high stress situation but the moment you use ableist slurs it just tells us that you use that language in common situations. You're ableist slurs are our 'fuck's' because when you're pissed off you use ableist slurs and when the other drivers are pissed off they use 'fuck' so how often must he use ableist slurs that it just came out on his team radio like that, like how the other driver's use fuck and get called out for it. Lance does a 'questionable manoeuvre' and Max is spilling ableist slurs and Max brake checks Lewis and there were no ableist slurs - because that isn't language Lewis uses in his day to day life. It's funny how you're attempting to appeal to the other people of tumblr by saying 'I'm sure anyone who has ever been on a road had felt' to excuse ableist slurs when we just swear our fucking minds off and have probably never used ableist or racist slurs during our road rage incidents. You're just revealing what you're like when you road rage and honestly, it just explains why you're so defensive.
"And following a certain politician on social media doesn't really mean anything. It's possible to be interested in what someone has to say without necessarily agreeing with their opinion."
Yes, but don't you think it's more common for people to follow politicians whose policies/ideas resonate with them. Don't you think it's concerning that Max might be interested in a politician with radical ideas about Islam such as banning the qur'an and taxing hijabs as well as calling Moroccan immigrants scum?
"But you're already anti-Verstappen: your mind is likely set in stone"
I'm not anti-Verstappen, I just tag my posts against his actions as anti-Verstappen because that's the tag they belong in. I admire/hate on people's actions. When Max does kind things he does kind things and they deserve to be talked about, when he does horrible things he does horrible things and they deserve to be talked about. I guess I'm Anti-people who don't call out Max for his actions so he's not held accountable, so he doesn't think he's done anything wrong so he just carries on doing it and all my glimpses of a kind, generous and brilliant human being he can be are crushed and that crushes me because people will only ever learn that something is wrong is when they're with brutal honesty told what is wrong and if you won't do that (which you aren't doing) than he won't ever stop doing the things he does. There's nothing more that I hate than people not meeting their potential, especially their potential to grow as a human being because everyone fucks up and then they get hated on and called out and than they educate themselves and show that they've learnt from their mistakes and that just doesn't happen with Max and it's crushing because we can all see the person that he is with Daniel, Lando, Charles and sometimes Lewis as well but the people that tell him he didn't brake check anyone (helmut) or the people that tell him that someone tried to kill him (christian) or the people that tell him he's doing fine as he is (jos) aren't helping him. Everyone grows up, I know Max will as well I think it'll happen eventually but it pains me to see the person he could be with Daniel and the person he is with his current influences. Max is just a person - people do good and bad things and when they're enabled they never get the avenue to learn. So yeah, not Anti-verstappen, Anti-the people who enable his behaviour and don't call him out including his fans.