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Guys.....it's almost that time of year......
Time for your annual OTGW rewatch!
Talk Abt the Dixon brothers..
i have been staring at this ask for like days and i cannot even begin to express the jumbled thoughts i have about them and also i cant pretend like im gonna say something profound because im just damn near incomprehensible about this show im barely halfway through
the way daryl's preception of merle differs/aligns with the way merle actually treats him: hallucination merle crosses lines that the real merle wouldn't while also painting him in a better light than we see him with the rest of the group do you understand what im saying rn
the way theyre so different even though they were raised in the same house and what that says about merle's involvement in daryl's childhood, like how daryl doesn't talk to the rest of the group the way merle would
also their hyper-independence and reliance on each other most likely because merle wouldn't have had anyone but himself and then taught that to daryl, while ALSO being the only person who daryl could rely on even semi consistently
how i feel trying to write anything coherent on them
A part of this actually reminds me of something I saw that explained no siblings are actually raised equally. I believe it was a study by a doctor or something. It meant that no matter how close in age siblings are, they had a different experience with the same parents because those parents were in different places during their upbringing. Whether that be socially, economically, emotionally etc. Parents treat first and second children differently, as well as changing parenting behaviors based on the child's personality. And Merle and Daryl seemed to have been born very far apart, not to mention the fact that Merle experienced life with their mom a lot longer than Daryl got to.
All of this being said, even though they were raised in the same house, they were very likely treated differently. I don't know how much clarity this adds to your thoughts but I feel like I'm onto something 😂
Way way too real 😔
TWD Spa Day
I can't help but think that the group, particularly the women, had issues with their hair at some point in the show, especially the time right before they found Alexandria. I know that my hair would pretty much be matted at that point. So I just picture the group, determined not to have to buzz their hair, holding a day where they work through everyone's tangles, recruiting the help of Jessie, collecting buckets to soak, conditioner, and detangler. Carl would be a part of this willingly, but they definitely had to spend a significant amount of time convincing Daryl to join.
I wanna read some sports fics for Sterek pairing preferably complete. Does anyone have any recs? It can be college au or just sports in general.
Like Rain in Spring by EdgeOfMyDesire
"When Stiles, at college on a sports scholarship, loses his leg in a car accident, he finds help in an unlikely place—Derek Hale, captain of their basketball team, who Stiles is 99% sure hates his guts."
https://archiveofourown.org/works/33124669
Been awhile since I've read it, but its the first fic I thought of when hearing this prompt and from what I do remember I really enjoyed it!
I Don't understand the Negan Hype?
After Dead City was announced (which I, for the record, have not seen), many people have argued that if we watch TWD from Negan's perspective, we would think Rick's group were the villains. And that I do understand to an extent. Negan was hurting and guilty over his wife's death, and needed to find a way to survive, so he began to assert himself into the group he was in, eventually declaring himself as leader, just as Rick did in season 2, going as far as saying that it wasn't a democracy anymore.
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Okay, so they both made themselves leaders for the greater good, I can vibe with that. It's the next bit where this argument gets lost on me. Obviously, they both begin to make calls for the group, and these decisions are where their likeness starts to disappear. Negan would kill and enslave people to show that he was a top dog, and nobody would defy him. Even if he was doing this for survival, it still seems super evil to me. He forced several women to "marry him" (ew) by threatening their lovers. For all Rick said about the group not being a democracy anymore, he still listened to the group and his family, he wasn't forcing them into anything, he just ignored suggestions he knew would get the people he cared about hurt. No matter what, survival in a world like TWD is going to be brutal. One of its biggest themes is that you literally can't avoid killing others (Which we saw with Morgan's entire character arc). But bashing people's skulls in with a baseball bat? really? And we know very well that Negan never actually felt any remorse about Glenn or Abraham, which he practically stated in black and white in S10 EP22. He genuinely thought it had to happen.
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Another thing that comes up a lot is the mass killing of one of Negan's outposts. "Rick's groups murdered a bunch of people unprovoked just like Negan did." And yeah, those murders were very awful, especially since they had just met the people of Hilltop and had no actual encounters with the dude. They mostly just wanted the stuff Hilltop had to offer, while conveniently taking out a potential threat. Although it obviously wasn't a righteous or correct decision, they way they did it spoke volumes about their characters. They did it quickly and quietly when they were sleeping. But most importantly, even though they were killing those people on the pretext of survival, they still felt sick doing it. They had guilt and regret. They didn't show off or revel in the pain they were causing.
In seasons 10 - 11 he starts to become a likable character, I can see that, I just don't know how people overlook the fact that he hasn't really changed. We saw it when he admitted he felt no regret for Glenn and Abraham, and we saw that when he made Daryl get on his knees and put a gun to his head while admitting he missed the power he had. Of course, he let Daryl go, and saved Judith, and the dog, but a few redeeming acts does not change the contents of a character. That was never supposed to be a turning point for him.
(This next point is slightly out of the blue, sorry for the whiplash, Maggie was just really annoying me in S11)
As much as I dislike Negan, I know that Maggie had no right to expect him to save her on the train in S11. She had literally just told him she would be trying to kill him any chance she got, then was shocked when he didn't try and pull her up. THAT is what survival is, not bashing people's skulls in with glee.
Another point to make real quick, I don't think Negan was ever meant to be a "good" character. Before the apocalypse, he was literally cheating on his wife. Negan is an incredibly complex character and is so interesting to watch, there were many moments when he was loving and cared for others, and maybe he isn't pure evil, but he is still a terrible person, who shouldn't be forgiven.
Anyways, I really want to hear other's opinions on this, I genuinely want to understand him better, please don't take this maliciously or get heated!
Edit: it just occurred to me that Negan used such a classic abuser manipulation technique. Daryl punches Negan, Negan kills Glenn, tells the group they made him do it. "I'm not the bad guy okay?? You made me do this!"
as a huge Negan fan, you’re absolutely right. A lot of people who enjoy his character start to view him in a better light unfortunately. He was a horrible person regardless of his trauma, I think his abuse won’t ever be justified. His backstory with his wife show there was a time he truly tried hard to be better, and I think the apocalypse and his trauma made him “relapse” in a way, he had no reason to try to be better and only cared about survival. I think the way he forced others to work for him and the stuff regarding his ‘wives’ were all about burying the horror of what was going on with pleasures. I think the way the writers handle his redemption is iffy at times as well, as they seem to want us to think Negan’s past self wasn’t all that bad and he really was. I enjoy him a lot as a villain, he is charismatic, intimidating and breaks down the strongest good forces in the show, dismantling the group we know and love. Condoning or trying to reason with his actions is not good because, again, he was an abuser in many ways. Anyway, I respect your opinion a lot.
This point actually adds a really good perspective! Looking at it from the angle that Negan was on a spiral of terrible decisions to blindly ignore his pain and trauma, avoiding those pesky little voices that ask if he's doing a bad thing, humanizes him to me a bit. If I put myself into the shoes of the redemption arc Negan, I can totally see how he was sort of trying to be better because he started to see the good in people, but also he felt that he was a terrible person at heart and that belief was holding him back to fully committing to becoming a good person. I admit that it would be incredibly difficult to change when everyone views you as a horrific monster. I would feel a bit spiteful myself. The problem with this view of sympathy is that the show just didn't do this. Negan had Judith, Lydia, and even Michonne eventually giving him an opportunity to be forgiven, even going as far as to paint Maggie and Daryl as two people who were holding onto unnecessary grudges. If everyone except Judith believed he was a truly terrible person, then I think I would actually enjoy his character a lot more in the final seasons. Being a man in a community full of people who hate you, and the only person in the entire world that sees you as a human being is a ten year old girl. You've definitely opened my eyes to Negan, and I admit I didn't give his character enough credit! Though I still don't think anything he did was justifiable or actually should be forgiven.
I've been thinking about all the times Peter Hale just popped up at an unbelievably convenient time in the plot, and now I'm just picturing every time the dude had a hunch about what was going on and was wrong. Like....my man sets himself up in some alleyway ready for his grand entrance, 3 hours later he's staring at his watch going "Fuck. This did not turn out the way I had prophesized." And then he's just standing there like an idiot.
I Don't understand the Negan Hype?
After Dead City was announced (which I, for the record, have not seen), many people have argued that if we watch TWD from Negan's perspective, we would think Rick's group were the villains. And that I do understand to an extent. Negan was hurting and guilty over his wife's death, and needed to find a way to survive, so he began to assert himself into the group he was in, eventually declaring himself as leader, just as Rick did in season 2, going as far as saying that it wasn't a democracy anymore.
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Okay, so they both made themselves leaders for the greater good, I can vibe with that. It's the next bit where this argument gets lost on me. Obviously, they both begin to make calls for the group, and these decisions are where their likeness starts to disappear. Negan would kill and enslave people to show that he was a top dog, and nobody would defy him. Even if he was doing this for survival, it still seems super evil to me. He forced several women to "marry him" (ew) by threatening their lovers. For all Rick said about the group not being a democracy anymore, he still listened to the group and his family, he wasn't forcing them into anything, he just ignored suggestions he knew would get the people he cared about hurt. No matter what, survival in a world like TWD is going to be brutal. One of its biggest themes is that you literally can't avoid killing others (Which we saw with Morgan's entire character arc). But bashing people's skulls in with a baseball bat? really? And we know very well that Negan never actually felt any remorse about Glenn or Abraham, which he practically stated in black and white in S10 EP22. He genuinely thought it had to happen.
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Another thing that comes up a lot is the mass killing of one of Negan's outposts. "Rick's groups murdered a bunch of people unprovoked just like Negan did." And yeah, those murders were very awful, especially since they had just met the people of Hilltop and had no actual encounters with the dude. They mostly just wanted the stuff Hilltop had to offer, while conveniently taking out a potential threat. Although it obviously wasn't a righteous or correct decision, they way they did it spoke volumes about their characters. They did it quickly and quietly when they were sleeping. But most importantly, even though they were killing those people on the pretext of survival, they still felt sick doing it. They had guilt and regret. They didn't show off or revel in the pain they were causing.
In seasons 10 - 11 he starts to become a likable character, I can see that, I just don't know how people overlook the fact that he hasn't really changed. We saw it when he admitted he felt no regret for Glenn and Abraham, and we saw that when he made Daryl get on his knees and put a gun to his head while admitting he missed the power he had. Of course, he let Daryl go, and saved Judith, and the dog, but a few redeeming acts does not change the contents of a character. That was never supposed to be a turning point for him.
(This next point is slightly out of the blue, sorry for the whiplash, Maggie was just really annoying me in S11)
As much as I dislike Negan, I know that Maggie had no right to expect him to save her on the train in S11. She had literally just told him she would be trying to kill him any chance she got, then was shocked when he didn't try and pull her up. THAT is what survival is, not bashing people's skulls in with glee.
Another point to make real quick, I don't think Negan was ever meant to be a "good" character. Before the apocalypse, he was literally cheating on his wife. Negan is an incredibly complex character and is so interesting to watch, there were many moments when he was loving and cared for others, and maybe he isn't pure evil, but he is still a terrible person, who shouldn't be forgiven.
Anyways, I really want to hear other's opinions on this, I genuinely want to understand him better, please don't take this maliciously or get heated!
Edit: it just occurred to me that Negan used such a classic abuser manipulation technique. Daryl punches Negan, Negan kills Glenn, tells the group they made him do it. "I'm not the bad guy okay?? You made me do this!"
where's my fun and whimsy? :(
For all the negative stuff I have said about star stable recently, at the end of the day, although they have their flaws, they have every right to progress and improve their game. I feel like recently the community is acting like how our grandparents act about technology and the lgbt. Yes, they often don't listen to us as a community, and yes, the main storyline is never updated, and yes yes yes to all the other completely valid complaints that have been ongoing for the past 5 years. But, the largest, most important part of the community is the people. The whole reason we all loved our silly little horse game despite the terrible graphics and the slow updates, was because we all actually liked each other. We talked to randoms in global, pulled all nighters with people we met that day, laughed and talked with our club members and friends. And now, when you open global all you get is a bunch of kids making sex jokes and bullying new players. I don't really know where I'm going with this, maybe when your online next time tell someone their fit is rad or crack some jokes in global. I promise we all just want to make connections with others who love our silly little horse game.
Some mysteries will forever go unsolved, like how my cat always manages to sit on the one spot that ensures I cant reach any part of my blanket.
Anyone else real nervous that the dragon prince will be cancelled before Runaan and Ethari get their reunion?
Dumb stupid joke
i’m trying to tell myself it’s true when it probably isn’t 😭😭
Daryl Dixon: the aroace rep we deserved
Disclaimers:
I haven’t seen Season 11 of TWD yet, so everything I discuss in this post will be within the context of Seasons 1-10.
I’ll be using the words “aro” and “ace” to refer more broadly to the aromantic and asexual spectrums (a-spec) throughout this post.
Definitions for anybody that’s unfamiliar with the a-spec: - A-Spec = refers to the asexual and aromantic spectrums as a whole - Aromantic/Aro = people that have no/lack of romantic attraction to others - Asexual/Ace = people that have no/lack of sexual attraction to others - Allosexual = people that experience sexual attraction to others - Alloromantic = people that experience romantic attraction to others - Amamatonormativity = the societal assumption that having a romantic partner is the ultimate goal (I’d recommend searching Elizabeth Brake who coined the term for a more comprehensive explanation)
If it wasn’t already obvious, SPOILERS for TWD seasons 1-10.
This post is written largely from my personal experience and perspectives as someone that is aroace.
With disclaimers out of the way, let’s get into this post which I have been itching to write for a long time now and was finally motivated to write after watching Season 10 Episode 18. In the years I’ve been part of TWD fandom I’ve seen Daryl shipped with Carol, Beth, Rick, Jesus, Aaron, Connie and pretty much every other character on the show. Whilst I’ve enjoyed Daryl’s dynamics with all of these characters, I’ve never shipped him romantically with anyone wholly because I always intuitively read him as being aroace.
Since Season 1 Daryl has had a complete absence of romantic and sexual interest. In 10 seasons, he hadn’t had a romantic or sexual partner and hadn’t made a single reference to past relationships, romantic or sexual, until Season 10 Episode 18. This lack of detail around Daryl’s love life naturally led to a lot of conjecture in the fandom over the years regarding Daryl’s sexual orientation and fans headcanoning him as being gay. Despite having great chemistry with Jesus and Aaron, Daryl was never confirmed in canon as being gay and his relationships with Jesus and Aaron were strictly platonic.
Daryl reads as aroace in every way and this is in the small details. Daryl has never (to my recollection) even commented on the physical appearance of another character in a way that suggests attraction; he has never expressed desire for a romantic partner and he’s never spoken of past relationships or dating. Even when he has shown interest in wanting kids, he’s never expressed a desire for a romantic relationship or marriage. When these topics have been brought up in conversation, he generally seemed disinterested. In 10x06 when Carol questioned him on his feelings for Connie and told him he should find love, Daryl’s reaction was just indifference. He wasn’t awkward or shy, he simply wasn’t engaged in the conversation and swiftly changed the topic.
As a person, Daryl simply isn’t driven by sex or romance. He’s independent and values friendship and loyalty. He’s also able to connect with people very deeply platonically. This is shown through the complex bonds he develops with others - Rick, Carol, Beth, Judith, Connie, Lydia - these are people that Daryl feels very strongly for but they aren’t “just friends” and can’t be easily categorised in terms of what they mean for Daryl. Let’s use Rick as an example here. On the surface Rick could be described as Daryl’s best friend, but actually he’s more like a soulmate. Daryl is so deeply connected to Rick that after his”death” he continued to search for him and moved to the woods alone to deal with his grief. This is a man that Daryl believed in wholeheartedly, followed and was loyal to, even in those moments when he doubted or questioned Rick’s decisions. Daryl’s love for Judith is essentially an extension of the profound connection he has with Rick; he loves, protects and cherishes Judith because she is Rick’s daughter and legacy. Daryl is emotionally fulfilled by these relationships he has with others, and the implication that he’s lonely or unfulfilled because he doesn’t have a romantic partner is amatonormativity in action. Daryl is an unhappy person for many reasons and none of those reasons are related to his relationship status and all of them related to the goddamn zombie apocalypse he’s living in (plus, his traumatic past and abusive childhood). Daryl’s connections with characters like Rick or Carol have completely fulfilled Daryl in the same way that an allosexual and alloromantic person would be fulfilled by a sexual and romantic partner.
So why did Season 10 Episode 18 decide to take all of that away in a single 40 minute episode and force him into a relationship with a woman that we hadn’t even heard of until this episode? Daryl is one of the longest-standing TWD characters and has developed so much over the last 10 seasons that to shoe-horn a love interest into one episode through disjointed flashbacks was such an injustice to his character. Daryl is not the type of character that easily bonds with people, especially romantically, so his rushed relationship with Leah was completely unfitting with what we know about him. His chemistry with her was lacking and the romance and sexual aspects of the relationship mostly took place off-screen. This entire episode only affirmed how goddamn odd and awkward it was to see Daryl in this type of relationship. Before I watched, I was open to it and eager to see how Daryl operated in this type of dynamic with another person, but it felt so devoid of any emotion or nuance in comparison to his other relationships. The writers did attempt to slowly build the relationship up by establishing that months had passed between their different meetings, but that doesn’t change the fact that the viewers had very limited screen-time with Leah and that the relationship essentially erupted out of no where. It was random, forced and felt out of place for Daryl’s development and arc.
It’s disappointing and frustrating that this is the path the writers and producers decided to take with Daryl. Queer representation in TWD is thin on the ground in general. Jesus, Aaron, Tara, Yumiko and Magna are the only canonically gay characters (most of whom are now dead), and there’s no representation of other queer identities. This means there’s plenty of space for new queer characters and to explore lesser known LGBTQIA+ identities. Aroace representation is so scarce that it’s a shame that a mainstream show like TWD has completely discarded the opportunity to explore asexuality and aromanticism through Daryl, a well-known and beloved character in media that could’ve made a tremendous impact for the a-spec community. All we needed was that confirmation in canon but instead, another obviously queer character in television has been forced into a heteronormative relationship. Hopefully, one day, we will start to see the type of representation we deserve. But for the moment, we still have Bojack Horseman to thank for leading the way to a-spec representation in television.
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Daryl Dixon took awhile to age mentally
As I read more and more analysis about Daryl and rewatch some of the earlier seasons, I wonder if it was intended for his character to have some kind of age regression issue. (I didn't do, like, extensive research, I just looked into some CPTSD and age regression signs on a few different sites, so this is just an idea I'm tossing out in hopes of hearing some other perspectives!)
The first situation that really catches my attention is his reaction to Merle being left in Atlanta. Now, obviously, this would be an incredibly emotional time for anyone and it's not entirely out of place to just say he was very distraught over the news and anyone could have reacted the same way he did. I just think that the specific way he did might have some signs. If you think about a grown man, especially one who was raised in a very macho household, you would assume that their reaction might be to storm out or yell at someone. Although Daryl did yell, he also started crying and pacing. It seemed almost as if he was having a full-on meltdown. Some signs of age regression are meltdowns (Ranting, shouting, insulting others, threatening others, whining, angry tears, or getting physically violent) that ring any bells?
I couldn't find a gifs of that exact moment :(
It probably didn't help that the entirety of the camp was staring at him as all of this happened. Temper tantrums can happen because someone is scared/ashamed and can't regulate themselves. (Like sensory overload.)
Another thing that I want to kind of address is the way Rick responds to Daryl when he's having these sorts of meltdowns. Throughout the series, and in the third episode, we see Rick bending down almost horizontally just so he can make eye contact with Daryl. He speaks to him like he's a child, and instead of feeling insulted, Daryl actually takes comfort in it and calms down!
"I'd like to have a calm discussion on this topic, do you think we can manage that?"
What is age regression?
We all know that Daryl was abused as a child, and trauma like that can sort of freeze the brain. This is a quote I really like that explains it: “It doesn’t necessarily make you stuck at a certain age, but instead, [you are] acting out the emotional wounding that happened at that age,” Lapides adds." People may start to regress because they are triggered or feel threatened, and an apocalypse seems like it would cause a constant trigger. Daryl might be reverting back to childlike behaviors as a trauma response. (honorable mention being the nail biting, but that's a bit of a reach) Shane being the way that he was could have also been a trigger for him.
One of the symptoms of age regression is overly clingy behavior. And you are probably thinking, "well, if there's anything Daryl has, it's not clingy behavior. He's a loner." I disregarded this too for awhile before I really thought about it. He is highly independent when he's doing things he's comfortable in, like being in the woods or going for runs. But when it comes to making decisions or being social, Daryl immediately clings to someone who he knows will do it for him. Most of his life he had Mere to hide behind. The most outgoing and shameless person alive. I don't think Merle ever asked Daryl his opinion on anything. He would decide, and Daryl would follow, and I think Daryl took a lot of comfort in that. So when Merle was gone, he latched onto Rick because he was the best choice. He knew Rick was a very righteous man who had plenty of leadership qualities. He knew Rick would make decisions for him, and give him directions.
Carol and Rick's mothering
Circling back to the way Rick would react to Daryl's outbursts, carol sometimes did the same thing. I know some people ship them, but honestly, at least in the earlier seaons, I got major mother/son vibes from the two of them. Especially when Beth died and she was trying to teach him how to grieve. The forehead kisses, the pookie nickname, all of it seemed to point in that direction. There was also another time Rick pulled the "Can we manage that?" move, and it was during Aiden and Glenn's fight in S5. He made sure to get low enough to make eye contact, and block his pacing. He kept telling Daryl that "We can't do this now." It all just looks a lot like he and carol are parenting Daryl, if only in moments where he is feeling intense stress and that trauma triggers.
Anyways, this was just a few ideas I was tossing around, and very clearly this in my first analysis lol, any thoughts?
Question for all the fanfic readers! Today I was thinking about a few characters that are canonically dead but I've read so much fanfiction that I've genuinely forgotten that they aren't alive. So I wanna know, who is that character for you?
Im very curious on what Daryl Dixon fans (and haters) think of this article
Sure, we all love Daryl from The Walking Dead! But love is often blind. CBR highlights some of his more glaring character flaws.
Not to mention that it's written like someone who just learned how to format argumentative essays, but most of the points in it are kind of reaching or just not explained/supported very well. I just thought I was a bit funny.
I feel like me, a person who really likes Daryl as a character, could come up with a much more plausible list of his flaws.