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froggy-nebula

the thing about that dave quote thats been being spread around (which he says to dirk at the end of the comic and does not say to his friends)

is that acknowledging that you've been through abuse that other people haven't and having feelings about that isnt "downplaying their trauma" a lot of people have trouble with this, but abuse victims are actually allowed to complain

his guardian literally beats him. with swords. he learned what a refrigerator actually does from movies, which means his bro both keeps food in the apartment so rarely that he didn't know, and also that he didn't really bother to teach dave basic things about the world. he is being filmed for puppet fetish porn on a regular basis

when he says that the other kids weren't going through the same thing as he was, he's saying a true fact. they did not go through the same kind of abuse as he did. he is allowed to feel like he got the shit end of the stick here with his guardian, he's allowed to feel like he went through the most severe abuse, and that at least the other kids guardians loved them it doesn't mean that rose didn't go through neglect and all of the trauma that comes from having an alcoholic parent, and it doesn't mean that jade didn't grow up alone on an island without any human contact and doesn't deserve to feel fucked up about it, and it even doesn't mean that june doesn't have depression. i care about all of those things and think they're worth talking about and worth taking seriously, but dave is still right when he says that his guardian was different than everyone else's was

we can take the other character's trauma seriously without saying that dave is wrong here. multiple things are allowed to be true at the same time. dave is allowed to say "at least their guardians all cared about them" the same way jade wouldn't be wrong if she said "at least everyone else got to grow up around people"

#its not minimizing the trauma of neglect to say that it feels different to be assaulted. because. it does feel different to be assaulted #i know thats a tough pill to swallow but you dont have to be weird as fuck to abuse victims by saying they arent allowed to talk about it

sevserez

Soldier, Poet, King

They’re on their way to Jade’s house btw.

#WOAHHHH OH MY GOD???? THIS IS BEAUTIFULLLL #rose's little smile under her hood oh my goddd au au au i cant get over it thats so cute #fanart

relaxxattack

i hate when people make completely baseless claims about homestuck and then because nobody has read this fucking comic in so long they all just mindlessly repeat it everywhere 😭 no dave did not "downplay other people's trauma" genuinely what the fuck are you talking about that never even happened

moldsporr

Literally the only time it could be argued he does that is here-

When hes clearly emotional and venting to Dirk about his Bro. And is sixteen!

And he's not even really downplaying their trauma- hes just saying that their guardians, at the very least, cared for them while he really couldn't be sure his Bro did. He talks about feeling like his Bro legitimately hated him. He's trying to work through all of those years of thinking things were normal and idolizing his Bro while talking to an alternate version of his Bro. God forbid a sixteen year old struggling with his feelings about being abused says something that could be stretched to be a little off !

relaxxattack

i think what's funniest about this quote is that he's literally saying the exact opposite.

DAVE: they complained bitterly about stuff so i guess i convinced myself they were all in the same boat as me

you're right to point out that he never says this to any of his friends' faces, he says this only to dirk. and that he's a sixteen year old struggling with trying to word his feelings for the first time, so it would be insanely in bad faith to stretch this.

but i would argue that this quote itself is incapable of being stretched in the first place, because... i mean, do you see what he's saying here? look at the actual words on the page. he literally said that he believed them. he believed that john's dad was evilly putting clowns everywhere to torment john, even though that was not even truly the case. that is exactly the opposite of downplaying? that's upplaying

#op #hsmeta

relaxxattack

i hate when people make completely baseless claims about homestuck and then because nobody has read this fucking comic in so long they all just mindlessly repeat it everywhere 😭 no dave did not "downplay other people's trauma" genuinely what the fuck are you talking about that never even happened

froggy-nebula

yeah you put it in the tags but a key part of his arc was that he assumed all of his friends were going through exactly the same type of stuff as he was and exactly as bad as he had it? his whole thing is he doesn't think anything he's going through is that bad or even that unique he's genuinely fully convinced that his bro is just a normal guy doing normal stuff and that this is all worth mildly complaining about at worst

its actually my favorite part cause i remember being a kid and listening to all my friends complain and assuming the same thing that the things i was going through weren't anything weird and even going "wow..... they're going through so much more than i am..... i don't know how they're so strong"

#LOL yeah fucking exactly #there are multiple parts in the comic where he says word for word that he thought everyone had it just as bad as him #it's a key part of the whole. being abused thing #that he thinks it's normal #you have to have not read the story in a REALLY long time to miss that 😭#but whatever. homestuck fans dont actually read homestuck this isnt new #hsmeta

while i'm here. everyone read witch hat atelier

#absolutely everyone. yeah even you reading this post #if youre a fellow rose enjoyer then there's someone i think you're going to like very much 😈#op

dude where are you?? 😭

i've been severely depressed and tumblr was a major factor so ive been taking a break from it

#ideally ill only log in when i have homestuck takes to post #op

i hate when people make completely baseless claims about homestuck and then because nobody has read this fucking comic in so long they all just mindlessly repeat it everywhere 😭 no dave did not "downplay other people's trauma" genuinely what the fuck are you talking about that never even happened

#hussie put it in the damn comic that dave thought his life was average and that all his friends suffered equal or more than him #he only realizes that's NOT the case when he's like 16??#op