Wow this really must be your hobby, congrats, at least you are dedicated.
I mean, why not. It’s good practice for rhetoric.
1. My entire original post was surrounded around the basis that, the end game of the show, the marriages and romance were never the point of focus.
This is, of course, bullshit. Nothing in your post focused on the ‘end game of the show.’ Even assuming that was your point, your arguments don’t really add up, though, because thew truth is Naruto and Sasuke weren’t THE point of focus, but A point of focus. The fact that Naruto and Sasuke’s relationships with their future spouses is not a focus does not matter in terms of ‘not adding up to much.’ They do add up to quite a lot, and the argument that somehow because Naruto and Sasuke are reincarnations they don’t is an odd argument. It’s non sequitur, really.
Either this is you attempting to change what the point was, or you made a poor argument for what you originally intended. Given this is the first you’ve brought up ‘well, actually, I mean the SERIES ending,’ I’ve got a suspicious what it is.
2. The point of focus being that these two souls who have reincarnated over and over together, who I see as soul mates, are the strongest pair and their friendship is the point. Their bond. Their struggle.
Except the focus of Naruto is actually Naruto’s story, not Naruto and Sasuke’s story. Sasuke is part of Naruto’s story, but he’s not the whole of it. I see a lot of accusations that folks overplay Hinata’s importance but frankly I think a lot of SasuNaruSasu fans do that far more with Sasuke. Sasuke is a key character, but he’s still a supporting character.
Also, you state here that it’s about these two souls that reincarnated over and over, yet that was only introduced far later into the series, and this clashes with your later arguments as well.
3. Madara was an exception to the cycle because he took in Hashirama’s cells and became something other than his original embodiment.
That doesn’t really matter? It doesn’t change that his soul would, by this logic, be the same. Or it’s not, and thus talking about souls reincarnating doesn’t really matter.
4. It is explained that Sasuke does still carry the Chakra and will of his previous incarnations, as well as Naruto.
Ok? No one is denying this.
5. Naruto and Sasuke being the bearers of that chakra and will, makes them linked. Obviously not the s a m e person. I thought of that as being almost juvenile in intellect: I didn’t think to assume to overstate it. My mistake.
Calling something juvenile is not the same as proving it is, and this is just bad rhetoric. Indeed, it merely is an attempt to trash an argument without making a point. Of course they’re linked, no one is DENYING they are liked, we’re discussing the nature of that link and what it will be going forward. You’ve dodged the point of the nature of that bond, and the like.
6. I can see that you pointed out you were asked of your opinion, but I heavily doubt or care about that fact. Because you still chose to bother with a random thought from a stranger. Which is totally cool, like I said, I’m not mad or really truly care.. Maybe have trouble taking things at face value or is it just your comprehension?
I really could not care what you think though, because I don’t care about you. I have no respect for you, as you have not earned a lick of respect from me, and your poor attempts at rhetoric aren’t making it any better.
7. This is a simple debate, we have different view points. Of which, I won’t tirelessly try to prove or defend because
- I love Naruto and Sasuke and am confident and happy and proud of them regardless of the ending.
You actually love these strange chariactures of Naruto and Sasuke that don’t seem to match up with the canon versions. After all, a brief look at your blog will show a collection of headcanons and posts that demonstrated you don’t actually recognize the canon versions of either character. Which, of course, if you did, you’d never be arguing that somehow they are anything more than brotherly.
We do have different view points, but not both can be right. They’re mutually exclusive and based on material facts.
8. I never changed the subject. You’re not a very difficult opponent to debate. I simply restated what I have been saying this whole time.
I never accused you of changing the subject, though your once again attempt to attack the manner in which I debate, not the rhetoric itself. However, you seem to not be addressing my actual points, which is that Naruto and Sasuke being ‘reincarnations’ has nothing to do with the romantic relationships.
Let me do it one last time, just for you since it might have become lost in your tirade of attempting at proving me wrong and making an unsolicited point of opinion.
- Sasuke and Naruto are soul mates: an ideally matched pair. Who reincarnate together time and time again. Ying and yang.
And I already pointed out they aren’t ‘ideally matched’ at all. Further, I’ve already pointed out how THEY don’t reincarnate, and YOU’VE agreed by pointing out how they aren’t the same as their prior incarnations, meaning no, actually, THEY don’t reincarnate. Naruto and Sasuke will never reincarnate, Indra and Ashura will.
They are soul mates in as much as they are reincarnations of two brothers.
- They are the focal point of the story and not the romance that happened in the canon ending.
No, Naruto is the focus point of the story. Sasuke is one part of the story of Naruto, alongside his journey to becoming Hokage by realizing what that really meant, and so on. Many characters are part of that, including Hinata, but also most of his other friends to various degrees and points. Sasuke was an important part of his story, but it is not the sole, or even primary, focus.
- I value and continue to value that one over a poorly contrived ending.
Calling something poorly contrived is not the same as arguing it is. You want to know what was contrived? Suddenly making Naruto and Sasuke reincarnations of ancient brothers to justify why they have any friendship at all, just like making them secretly admire each other well into the manga. That’s contrived. Indeed, much about Naruto and Sasuke’s relationship is contrived.
Again, these are opinions. I’m honored you care so much of mine.
They’re not, actually. You’re making factual claims, which are not opinions. You’re making a claim about the focus of the story, about the nature of Naruto and Sasuke’s relationships. Those are not ‘opinions,’ those are things that have definitive, singular truths to them.
Given you are no friend of mine, I can only assume you mean you and your SNS buds. Which is fairly accurate.
