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Gaten: Gives interview implying Byler isn't happening

Bylers: Deny Gaten said this, concoct deranged theory about Byler hating interviewer making up quotes, proceed to harass said journalist

Journalist: Releases audio clip proving Gaten said exactly what was printed

Bylers: Radio silence except for a few loons theorizing it might be AI, apparently a bridge too far even for a fandom this delusional. Now they must pretend this whole saga never happened until a more plausible explanation that fits their narrative comes along.

MLM shippers are just such a blessing to whichever fandom they attach themselves to!

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Bylers laughing at Will's bullying of El and calling it sassy...really says a lot about the character of those in the community. Mike called him a douche and Will even called himself a total jerk. If Will Byers was real he would be disgusted with his stans.

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Seems the Mileven community on Twitter may have figured out the ending! Potential spoilers obviously.

Apparently, a year ago Kate Trefry said it was "Niagara Falls" in the writers room after they finished, obviously referencing tears. But since the "three waterfalls" reveal, it's taken on a different meaning, and may in fact be a clue to the ending.

So, in the premiere Mike tells El they can't go back to the shire (Hawkins), and will go to a village with three waterfalls. At some point later in the season, El tells him this isn't one of his campaigns, and he doesn't get to write the ending. All this is established fact at this point.

Remember the alleged but never confirmed leak that Mike thinks El is dead at the end of the season, and the last scene is her coming back to him? Seems the ending could be that after the epilogue in the bar and the scene with Hopper consoling Mike, Mike visits Niagara (three waterfalls) and and sees El there. Happy ending indeed!

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So, it appears that the twatwaffle express (Byler fandom) has successfully destroyed the Mileven tag, almost no content anymore. I can't say I haven't contributed, spending more time debunking their nonsense than discussing the actual relationship. I think it's time to just ignore them and hopefully the tag can be rebuilt at some point after S5 airs and their inevitable subsequent tantrums have subsided.

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Another Byler lie: Mike got choked up talking to Will in 4x4 because he has romantic feelings for him. Reality: Mike got choked up when he said "I have no idea what's gonna happen next". He knows that they could very well be going straight to their deaths, and even if they survive, El and everyone else they care about might not. If Mike getting choked up was meant to indicate he was in love with Will, they would have had him do it after the "I felt like I lost you" line.

Get a clue guys.

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In response to one of the latest condescending Byler screeds:

Um...yes, Mike's love interest in all four seasons was pretty clearly El.

Their relationship was built up in every episode in S1. What difference does it make that they were working on "finding Will"? People can't fall in love working together?

They both spent the entirety of S2 obsessed with each other and heartbroken over their separation. Even your precious "crazy together" line was prompted by Mike's feelings for El. Who cares that they were only physically in the same room for a few minutes? What does this have to do with their feelings?

Only in Byler dreamland is making out a sign of an unhealthy relationship. They broke up in S3 because Hopper forced Mike to lie to El, and the next time they get to talk alone he tries to tell her he loves her. Yes, he was shocked at her love declaration, because he had no idea she had actually understood what he was trying to say to her in the "it makes you crazy" scene.

Mike's love declaration pretty clearly saved both El and Max, as El didn't have the strength to break through until he started talking to her. This is not up for debate, it is literally canon and was released in the official script! The script flat out says "it's working" in regards to Mike's monologue. And yes, El talked to Mike afterwards, he was the only person she opened up to at all before Hopper's return, and about something truly personal and traumatic (Brenner). Why do you people have to lie constantly?

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Will was not staring "longingly" at Mike in the desert, he was concerned for him because he could see how worried Mike was about El, which is why the first thing he did afterwards was assure him she would be alright. Mike did a "triple take" because he was startled that Will realized how upset he was and was watching him, so he immediately snapped out of it and went back to work as a way of brushing it off.

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Byler peeps, please don't make Finn pose with stuff like the "Byler is real" sign or fan art. Noah is a jovial spirit who likes to humor your delusions, but Finn is clearly uncomfortable with the Byler talk. I don't think he has a personal problem with you peeps, but he knows your ship isn't going to happen and it makes him feel awkward interacting with it. So show some sensitivity.

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I hate heat but my depression is triggered by cloudiness. Arizona not looking so bad.

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Friendly reminder that Mike looked at El first after he told the vomit green socks joke. I personally don't believe the joke was meant only for El, but since Bylers have decided it was meant just for Will, I think it's worth pointing out that if it was made to make one person laugh specifically it was obviously El.

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Just skimmed through the video, but it's telling that the Byler lawyer repeats the lie that El and Mike couldn't talk on the phone, in order to bolster the theory that Mike was trying to call Will when he complained about Joyce's job. Except...Mike and El clearly spoke on the phone in Season 3. Once again, realistic ships don't have to lie.

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"El hadn't seen Mike in that way before he kissed her"…um, did you sleep through the scene where El leaned in to kiss Mike at the beginning of episode 7?

Byler revisionism as strong as ever, I see.

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"like, it IS a byler thing. It always has been"

How can blue and yellow have "always" been a Byler thing when it was used for Mike and El on the S3 poster, released before the season even aired? Which just so happens to be the only (semi) canonical linking of the phrase to a ship? You appropriated it, because you have nothing.

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BTW, three waterfalls is Mileven content and will not be appropriated by Bylers. Just like how Blue and Yellow was only ever canonically linked to Mileven (S3 poster). If your ship was real, you wouldn't have to steal!

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MLM shippers stop being delusional, mean spirited, narcissist whackjobs challenge: impossible.

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Byler scum once again comparing Mike to El's abuser, Brenner. No surprise considering they hate Mike and only like the AU version that exists in their delusional minds.

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Since the Duffers had Brenner implausibly survive the Demogorgon attack and even gave emotional closure to his and El's relationship, I feel the least they can do is have Terry recover and be able to see her daughter safe and happy. Unfortunately I feel like this is unlikely, I feel they would think a Terry/El reunion would encroach on the Joyce/El relationship, even though they spent no time whatsoever developing their dynamic in the last two seasons. But Terry was such an important part of El's story, I feel both El and the audience deserve closure there.