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Why are the Reanimen weaker in Invincible season 3
The reanimen aren't weaker, Mark is just stronger. "But why does mark lose half his fights in season 3?" Because he's holding back to spare lives. He doesn't want to kill anyone, not even villains.
The one fight we see him decimate quickly is when Oliver is in trouble. Mark is just being compassionate.
I have been thinking about the Mark and Cecil conflict all day and the main conclusion I have drawn is that both of them are wrong in their own special way because they’re both cops working within a flawed superpowered police state lol.
This but it's also a thing that's living in my mind rent free right now that Mark cannot quit. With viltrum on his back, anissa and Mr "Worse than Her" coming back, Mark cannot stop.
And the reality that mark is forced to keep up the heroism after killing angstrom, after finding his dad, after Oliver and the Mauler twins, after Cecil's betrayal of marks trust. Mark still cannot stop, because the second he does, he'll know that he could have always done more to protect people if he fails.
And I think that's pretty reflective of Cecil's own attitude. If Cecil doesn't use all of these reformed villains, if Cecil doesn't take every line and advantage he can, he'd have to shoulder knowing that there was something more he could have done.
Which is my two cents of Cecil's projection through that episode.
why do people keep saying cecils evil, dude just employs criminals, hes about as evil as timpsons
I take personal offence to this BC I believe we should love him in SPITE of the moral horrors!! He's a terrible person in tight pants, be BOLD! Love in the face of adversity!
i know the show keeps saying how evil he is but i just dont think hes even done much wrong
oh no he is a TERRIBLE man, but the way he's written is to make it hard to tell initially because the writers are amazing and Cecil is an impeccably written character who I adore to talk about.
My last like 3 posts are all about it, cough cough low-key self plug but also it is my most favourite thing to talk ab in regards to the show. Cecil >>>>
Please talk to me about Cecil Stedman, I have to many thoughts. 💔💔
idk maybe im evil too because the stuff he does doesn't seem that evil, he's controlling and ruthless but when your in charge of the defense of an entire planet that just seems reasonable.
Well that's the crux of Cecil's whole character, isn't it? He's a horrendous man but he is genuinely trying to do his best for the majority. He sees his own personal evils and necessary to spare others from the fall out. It's why he can confidently lie to Debbie and manipulate Mark.
The main problem of him accepting this role, this motto that "you can be the hero OR you can be the guy who saves the world" is that by accepting that he has to step on people, he accepts that inevitably he is going to create fallout. Cecil, hurting people in his position of power is going to create unrest, which is what we're seeing now. It's the flaws in his philosophy. Cecil isn't right, because in this complex and terrible situation it is impossible to be right.
When Cecil's methods involve lying, cheating and betraying people, he is creating more reasons for people to treat him, and by extension the general populace in a similar fashion, creating a cycle of violence and unrest because Cecil simply can't see another way.
But also, a huge chunk of his argument and dynamic with Mark doesn't come from a place of rationale. Cecil has been mistreating mark since season 2 for personal reasons, mainly Nolan's betrayal. The way he speaks to mark when mark shows agency is proof of this. He speaks from a place of personal hurt and anger.
He isn't always the man who considers the greater good. Sometimes, he's just a man.
but i disagree that he is a horrendous man, because he is trying to do his best for the majority and he does. the gda is pretty good at protecting the planet, and if mark didnt get involved then they probably could have beaten omni-man with that kaiju and immortal.
im just saying that he does good generally, so i dont think hes bad.
He's a self admitted bad person. He's killed for personal gain, he's abused, lied and cheated his own friends. Not even Donald has been spared from Cecil's selfishness. He is a bad person. It doesn't matter that his intentions are good within the GDA, he's toxic and cruel within his own personal life.
It's reminiscent of Fightmaster telling mark that it's not enough that the immortal used to save people. good deeds cannot counteract evil actions.
Also Cecil says in season one that he knows the kaiju and the immortal can only slow Nolan down. Cecil knew all he could do at that point was slow Nolan down.
why do people keep saying cecils evil, dude just employs criminals, hes about as evil as timpsons
I take personal offence to this BC I believe we should love him in SPITE of the moral horrors!! He's a terrible person in tight pants, be BOLD! Love in the face of adversity!
i know the show keeps saying how evil he is but i just dont think hes even done much wrong
oh no he is a TERRIBLE man, but the way he's written is to make it hard to tell initially because the writers are amazing and Cecil is an impeccably written character who I adore to talk about.
My last like 3 posts are all about it, cough cough low-key self plug but also it is my most favourite thing to talk ab in regards to the show. Cecil >>>>
Please talk to me about Cecil Stedman, I have to many thoughts. 💔💔
idk maybe im evil too because the stuff he does doesn't seem that evil, he's controlling and ruthless but when your in charge of the defense of an entire planet that just seems reasonable.
Well that's the crux of Cecil's whole character, isn't it? He's a horrendous man but he is genuinely trying to do his best for the majority. He sees his own personal evils and necessary to spare others from the fall out. It's why he can confidently lie to Debbie and manipulate Mark.
The main problem of him accepting this role, this motto that "you can be the hero OR you can be the guy who saves the world" is that by accepting that he has to step on people, he accepts that inevitably he is going to create fallout. Cecil, hurting people in his position of power is going to create unrest, which is what we're seeing now. It's the flaws in his philosophy. Cecil isn't right, because in this complex and terrible situation it is impossible to be right.
When Cecil's methods involve lying, cheating and betraying people, he is creating more reasons for people to treat him, and by extension the general populace in a similar fashion, creating a cycle of violence and unrest because Cecil simply can't see another way.
But also, a huge chunk of his argument and dynamic with Mark doesn't come from a place of rationale. Cecil has been mistreating mark since season 2 for personal reasons, mainly Nolan's betrayal. The way he speaks to mark when mark shows agency is proof of this. He speaks from a place of personal hurt and anger.
He isn't always the man who considers the greater good. Sometimes, he's just a man.
If I see one more person saying cecil was complelty in the wrong istg I'm gonna bring the hammer down
Cecil was completely in the wrong not for the argument itself, but for all of the behaviours that prefaced it. This argument was the culmination of 3 seasons worth of Cecil manipulating mark and it coming to bite him in the ass which was WELL deserved.
Anyway is anyone else's heart torn out by the fact that both Mark and Cecil feared for their lives and doubted the others humanity so sincerely that they were both entirely convinced the other would kill them given the chance?
why do people keep saying cecils evil, dude just employs criminals, hes about as evil as timpsons
I take personal offence to this BC I believe we should love him in SPITE of the moral horrors!! He's a terrible person in tight pants, be BOLD! Love in the face of adversity!
i know the show keeps saying how evil he is but i just dont think hes even done much wrong
oh no he is a TERRIBLE man, but the way he's written is to make it hard to tell initially because the writers are amazing and Cecil is an impeccably written character who I adore to talk about.
My last like 3 posts are all about it, cough cough low-key self plug but also it is my most favourite thing to talk ab in regards to the show. Cecil >>>>
Please talk to me about Cecil Stedman, I have to many thoughts. 💔💔
why do people keep saying cecils evil, dude just employs criminals, hes about as evil as timpsons
I take personal offence to this BC I believe we should love him in SPITE of the moral horrors!! He's a terrible person in tight pants, be BOLD! Love in the face of adversity!
it's kinda fascinating how in a lot of the mark vs cecil debate i don't see too much discussion about how cecil's own ego was getting in the way during their confrontation. fear was definitely a significant factor, but i think there was a huuuge part of cecil that just wanted to punish mark for not following orders. like a bratty kid that needs to be put in time-out. cecil tries to project a cold and calculated persona, but he's a very spiteful man
SPEAK LOUDER, THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING SINCE SEASON 2 EPISODE 2!!
Cecil is such a human character I love him to pieces. The way he lies through his teeth to Debbie and the way he switches up on his perception of mark when he's upset is so perfectly messed up and real. The writing in this show is phenomenal, but the writing for Cecil specifically is on a whole new level of complex and realistic.
As a DC fan who thinks its completely understandable for Batman to hoard kryptonite and pull it out of his ass at any given time. I think Cecil was absolutely correct
Cecil is morally bankrupt and always has been, he's also just doing his best, but he absolutely wasn't correct.
Long winded character study of my favourite man, Cecil Stedman, incoming.
Cecil spends all of season 2 manipulating mark and lying to Debbie and ppl still think he was genuinely justified in what he did to mark in season 3.
Through season 2 Cecil assures Debbie that Mark calls the shots, sets his own schedule and that Cecil isn't making him do anything.
Cecil assures mark he isn't his father and shouldn't be burdened by Nolan's actions, but the second that mark shows his own agency, the second Debbie cannot hear him, Cecil tightens the leash on mark.
"you're not your father, mark." becomes "that's exactly what your father thought." when he doesn't like Mark's initiative to save the aliens. Mark is leaving to try and save lives, and Cecil compares him to Nolan because he doesn't want Mark to go. That's straight up manipulation.
"he sets his own schedule, I don't make him do anything he doesn't want to" to Debbie becomes "you work for me, mark." When Debbie isn't around to say otherwise. Once again, he's taking this teenager's blind faith in him and trying to leverage it the way he wants.
These are quotes from Season 2 when Cecil and Mark's relationship was good! This man is passively manipulative, always looking for the advantage and always playing victim.
Another super important lie to keep in mind when considering Cecil's character is where he gets the corpses for Sinclair. He assures Mark that they were donated, but we know for a fact they're just stolen military men "serving their country one last time". That's what Cecil says in season one, and we know that those soldiers didn't consent due to the timing of the season.
Beyond that, Cecil's actions in season 3 have been nothing but cruel and manipulative. FEELING threatened by someone and BEING threatened by them are not the same thing. Cecil has every right to feel threatened but up until the Reaniman grabs him, Mark doesn't threaten Cecil.
Cecil spends that entire interaction exacerbating their interaction. Showing mark how many Reanimen he's surrounded by does nothing to lower tensions. THAT is a threat! Especially after he sent the first wave after Mark.
Knowing everything we know about Cecil I am confident in saying that even his admission of fear (while based in reality) was another attempt to manipulate Mark into giving up the argument. Guilting Mark into passivity rather than explain properly why Cecil is doing the things he is.
Mark crashing through the ceiling was a justified end to their conversation when you consider that mark is surrounded by enemies on the ground and no longer knows where he stands with Cecil.
Cecil changing his tune from "go home, mark" to "you're coming back to the GDA with me" is a VERY concerning development when you consider that Cecil spent far more chasing mark down than he would have spent fixing mark's temper tantrum.
Mark thinking Cecil was going to kill him wasn't just a valid thought, it was a totally rational one after Cecil has proven that when Mark isn't a good boy who does what he's told, Cecil will see him as just as vile and evil as his father, no matter the reason Mark disagrees with Cecil. Every prior interaction they've had Cecil has only proven that.
TLDR: Since Nolan left, Cecil has been working overtime to take advantage of Mark's broken reality and less than stellar sense of self. Cecil's long list of lies and manipulations have had an adverse affect on Mark, and have actually pushed him away rather than putting him under thumb. The fight and crashout wasn't commentary on Mark (who was acting like a betrayed and hurt teenager) but commentary on Cecil, who is making terrible, shortsighted choices because he's losing control of a situation.
Also sidebar; The reason we can accept batman keeping kryptonite is because we know he won't use it unless absolutely needed. He's a patient, thorough and diligent character who is unshakable and reliable in most continuities of his story. Cecil doesn't and shouldn't have that same leeway, being as flawed a person as he is. Cecil is a bad person on the right side of history within his canon, but bad people make worse choices and we're seeing that perfectly this season. It's so crunchy I love this show so much.
Okay so if viltrumites invade earth just play that frequency at full volume on every speaker in the world problem solved???????
I love this and I love the idea that a deaf viltrumite is more resilient than a hearing viltrumite. its great to me because viltrumites would cull a deaf man for his disability rather than acknowledge the advantage his deafness gives him.
So...
Can we pretend that air planes in the night sky are like shooting stars..
Mark having two new stepdads is not where I expected season 3 to go but I'm here for it
The way that the immortal was genuinely worried for Marks health in the future 😭😭😭
"you're thin! Have you been eating? Are you sick again?"
Also smth I was too shocked about to speak about until rn: Mark was just angry (rightfully so btw!) and Cecil was immediately like "oh so you want me dead? So you want my head on a spike? Okay, mods, kill this fuckin guy."
Invincible Season 3 Spoilers: Like Father Like Son
Like father like son, except Nolan was the hunter. Mark was being hunted.
We STAN AN OLD MAN MANIPULATOR PROJECTING ONTO THE CHILDREN. IN THIS HOUSE WE STAN HIM.
Cecil was the bad guy in S3E2
The entire episode was Cecil projecting and escalating the situation.
Mark never had to know what was in that white room. Cecil accused Mark of threatening him and turned around to threaten him too. That was totally escalating the situation.
Cecil told mark to leave and instead of letting mark go to clear his head, he used a weapon he implanted under his skin to force him down and punish him for breaking a ceiling (yes it's an expensive tantrum but it would have cost infinitely less than the 6 teleportations Cecil did to chase mark). Rather than let mark go to cool off and try to talk again later he did nothing but prove mark right that Cecil was against him.
Also idk how ppl act as though mark could have walked out? Cecil had surrounded him with enemies on the ground, his only obvious choice was up and away. Especially since Cecil used them to try and apprehend him already.
Mark saying that Cecil was going to kill him was totally a rational train of thought, especially when Cecil changed up as he did afterwards. What was he planning to do with mark when he took him back to the GDA? especially after Cecil made it an EXPLICIT point to tell mark to go home.
Side point: I don't think it's an accident that we get the flash back to Nolan and Cecil meeting just before darkwing was put on the guardians. If Cecil's flashbacks were to show mark repeating history then yk maybe... Just maybe. Idk I haven't read the comics. Still an interesting place to put the flashback!
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