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“Eros. Giver of pain.”
WICKED: FOR GOOD (2025) dir. JON M. CHU
forced galindafiction kink: the practice of deriving sexual gratification from a submissive partner being forcibly galindafied by a dominant partner
do you think elphaba kept her eyes on the bright golden presence she inferred and noticed her privately admiring the buildings around them? do you think she followed her into the parlor and in a sea of girls who came from much more wealth and were decked out in diamonds and pearls she was drawn to the way the light dazzled off of her pretty flaxen curls? do you think she began to notice how that mesmerizing newcomer was nervous about shiz, too, and maybe even seemed a little lonely and out of her depth like elphie? do you think she kept her eyes on her as the more socially advantaged girls were paired off, wondering who would be lucky enough to share a room with her? do you think she froze when she realized that girl was her because she couldn't believe that was possibly true? do you think she kept her eyes on the floor cuz she was suddenly to nervous to even look at her, much less say anything? if you answered yes to any of these questions PLEASE consider donating to the elphaba thropp recovery fund because she can't go on like this
very funny elphaba saw this girl who was sitting alone muttering some bullshit to herself like a psychopath and was like "yep... bright golden presence"
i know ariana's "just wear the froat it's pretty" in popular is just ad-lib but i really do appreciate how frustrated she sounds it has the same energy as book galinda insisting and insisting to herself that she finds everything about elphaba hideous and then begrudgingly admitting to herself that she's absolute entranced by her hair falling where her breasts would be if she ever decided to reveal her breasts to galinda. she shouldn't like that stupid basic ugly froat but she can't help but find it pretty on elphaba
"they need someone to be wicked so that you can be good" is simultaneously so tragic and so romantic. because on one hand elphaba has to come to terms with the fact that oz is never really gonna see her as good and the best thing she can do is to let herself be seen as the wicked witch. but also she's giving up her dreams of being loved by and helping oz so glinda can be good and glinda will be safe wtf
wicked is a crazy movie because when people say they went vegan after watching it so many others will respond with confusion, not even seeing the clear link between the film and not wanting to eat animals. but at the same time if you're going to tell me wicked is what convinced you to become vegan i will find you insane. its such a minor plot point that it only has about three scenes in the longest ever double feature films. how is that what finally convinced you
"This was my intention just to do this for Elphaba and to show her that like I'm strong and fun and can do magical things too"
Ariana Grande on Glinda Upland shoving her crotch in Elphaba Thropp's face, 2024
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A third I’m Not That Girl sung by Fiyero while Glinda and Elphaba make out behind him.
i think it's a tad reductive to say people are ignoring or bastardizing glinda's canon characterization when they focus on the ways, despite her privilege, she does struggle and is isolated from society
there's some people that try to justify everything she does and kinda brush over the very obvious commentary on white privilege in the process. like obviously glinda's character is a commentary on the privilege the white the wealthy and the beautiful have, and how, especially when left unchecked, that privilege hurts others. if you miss that you're hella dumb and if you ignore that you're probably a little racist. she does, on some level, have to be vapid and shallow and ignorant at the beginning so she can grow into the person she becomes at the end. otherwise she'd just be a boring character with no arc, and we wouldn't want that now would we???
but she's never just been that. gregory maguire talks about how much of the way he characterized her in the wicked novel was inspired by the fact that he was never really convinced of billie burke glinda's fairy princess good witch thing. in the 1939 mgm movie, she very much reads as campy, performing an ideal of femininity that she's trying too hard at and not quite reaching. others have compared her to a drag queen before, and she really does come off as an old hag performing functioning society woman drag in the 1939 movie. like ma'am you are fooling no one we know you're a queer
and this makes her interesting because she's a character that exists in this position of privilege and in many ways embodies the faults of the privileged, but she's also one that continually fails to fit into this role she aspires to fill. this is really explicit in the novel, where it's pretty obvious none of the wealthy girls at shiz actually like her and she's always just, comically and annoyingly wealthy and out of touch as an adult, to the point where you the reader can't even hate her cuz it's just so ridiculous. like how do you fit that many micro aggressions into one conversation and then talk about hiring a guy to fix the belvederes? at your surrogate sister's funeral of all places??? this is why no one likes you
musical/movie glinda makes her straight up popular, which works with the themes of the play, but i do think she retains this element of queerness, for lack of a better term, and it's an important part of her character. on the stage it's a little bit lost, because the medium of theater always plays everything up to 110%, but ariana encapsulates it really well with the "she thinks she's a swan but she's not." her movements are often stiff and awkward cuz she's trying too hard and everything is too practiced and rehearsed to be natural
and while she may have shiz and eventually oz fooled, that doesn't mean she actually fits in. in DTL glinda's dance movements are intentionally a little bit off. ariana says its cuz she claps on one and three, which is the most accurate glinda analysis ever and the most devastating burn ever. but it also leaves her not quite in rhythm with the rest of the ensemble. despite her best attempts, she still doesn't quite fit in. she can only ever be loved superficially, and doesn't let anyone see the "real her"
it makes morrible's "i have no faith in you" somewhat layered because on one hand morrible sees past glinda's privilege and sees that she doesn't have potential, at least not like elphaba does. and this makes glinda extremely jealous cuz she's not used to being told no or someone not blindly following her. but morrible also sees past the crafted popular girl facade and decides the girl underneath is worthless. when she finally does "accept" glinda at the end of DG, it's for the facade, not for glinda herself. and i think the privilege reading and the dismissal of the "real" glinda reading don't oppose each other and can and must coexist to understand her character and the text as a whole
where elphaba's relatability comes from the fact that she can't hide her otherness and is therefore automatically isolated for it--something i think everyone, especially poc and queer ppl and neurodivergent ppl have felt--glinda's comes from the fact that despite her best efforts to appear like some societal ideal, she's missing the mark and is still a weird little freak. and i do think the glinda of it all is something everyone's also felt at points in their lives. like, most of us aren't 100% elphaba and wear everything on our sleeves like her. most of us have done things to be more societally palatable at one point or another and completely missed the mark
glinda's layered. you pull back the facade of the good witch and you see the privilege that's propping her up, often at the expense of someone else. you pull back the privilege and you find parts of her that are queer and different and socially unacceptable (first and foremost her love for elphaba) that she hides or suppresses. the trailers show glinda keeping the real parts of her in a literal closet because she knows much of the real her can't be revealed or she'll be cast out and isolated the way elphaba (who never has the luxury of a closet to hide in) has been
i do think glinda can be extremely relatable to people like elphaba can, albeit in a different and complementary way. i personally don't find one more relatable than the other, and rather can see parts of myself in both of them and at various points in my life felt like one more than the other. i also don't think relatability is the only metric for engaging in media, or even a particularly good one. they're very much two halves of a whole for me
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whatever you say about wicked i think it’s objectively funny that they did a scene where they confess their love for each other and then one of them locks the other in a closet and fakes her own death and John m Chu explained it by claiming he recieved a vision from god
they really added glinda and elphaba doing tunnel of love together in hit 2025 movie wicked: for good wow life is so beautiful never kill yourself
my favorite wlw trope is when one girl is unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe and the other is blonde
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Extracts from Grace and gravity by Simone Weil