Hey since you’re now the only one we can trust for correct translations over complicated characters like Kirari, would you mind double checking the translation for chapter 30 when she tells Sayaka “you know I wouldn’t allow that don’t you?” in regards to a one sided relationship. The original bet was to become strangers to each other, and then as Sayaka begins to panic Kirari suddenly changes it to jumping off the tower. From the beginning, Kirari seemed to have a lot of faith that Sayaka was going to pick the right door, giving her a way to live and keep her secretary position even if she lost the gamble. So while it seems like Kirari is saying “I’d never allow you to keep loving me from afar if you lost” it’s like she’s actually saying “I would never let our relationship end even if you lost” by giving her another way to “win.” I just want to see if there’s anything different in that scene in Japanese because it seems like one of the most clear examples that Kirari wasn’t willing to throw away their relationship so easily and shows she cares about Sayaka’s happiness as well.
Well, I don’t know about me being the only one you can trust, but the sentiment is flattering, so thank you! (I think...?)
In Japanese, Kirari says:
そんなこと許すはずがないでしょう？
Which can be translated as, “But I can’t allow that, can I/right?”
The でしょう at the end can be interpreted a few different ways. Based on context, my reading of it is that Kirari was likely seeking agreement from Sayaka, or making an assumption that she and her are thinking about the same thing. Technically, they were both thinking about the same thing but with an obviously major difference lol: Sayaka was content with adoring Kirari from afar should she lose, but Kirari seemed to have a hunch that would happen and upped the stakes by introducing the jump from the tower.
I think a lot of people see the Tower of Doors as Kirari being flippant about her connection to Sayaka and being willing to toss it away without a second thought. Hell, even Sayaka thinks that’s the case when the gamble is first introduced. But something to keep in mind is that Kirari almost certainly built that tower for Sayaka. At the very least, she geared all the puzzles on the screen towards Sayaka’s strength: logic. But Sayaka had tunnel vision, and was only interested in taking out Yumeko, especially after Kirari introduced a jump that would be fatal. Yumeko was able to best Sayaka because she took the time to figure out the weird twist (pun not intended lol) that the tower had. Sayaka actually almost figured out that the tower rotated...but then Yumeko showed up on the ground floor and she got blinded by her hatred again.
So we can infer a couple things about Kirari’s use of the Tower of Doors based on the context we’re given:
Kirari more or less knew how this gamble was going to shake out from the beginning
She planned for Sayaka to make the choices she did – if Kirari hadn’t been careful about how she planned the tower and didn’t know Sayaka as well as she did, it could’ve very easily resulted in someone’s death
Kirari gave Sayaka a way to win what was important to her, even if that meant losing the actual gamble to Yumeko
Kirari cares about Sayaka a lot, or is at the very least deeply fascinated by her – we can see the ToD as a major test of sorts
Kakegurui Love‘s chapter about Kirari actually more or less confirms that last point:
“In a sense, the battle of ‘The Tower of Doors’ was something in which Sayaka challenged Kirari for her own existence. Kirari, who reaffirmed Sayaka’s charm as a person, took her as her secretary.”
Similarly, in Sayaka’s chapter, Kakegurui Love says this:
“[Sayaka] couldn’t understand Kirari and was defeated in a gamble that bet on their connection. However, Kirari is attracted to Sayaka because she doesn’t understand her, and Sayaka just wants to be near Kirari, so she reaffirms her feelings for her.”
We even get this panel in the manga that confirms that Kirari wanted to see how deep Sayaka’s devotion to logic ran, so much that she wasn’t able to see the forest for the trees.
That bottom right panel is actually really interesting, because Kirari is pointing out two times when Sayaka was actually talking to Ririka and seemed to know that Ririka was not Kirari, but was unable to explain how or why she knew that...similar to how Sayaka knew to chose the safe door without realizing it.
Also worth mentioning, there’s a pretty significant warp on Kirari’s characterization here:
In English, Kirari says:
“If you chose any other door, you’d have died instantly...and I wasn’t gonna join you for that, trust me.”
In Japanese, what she actually says is:
他の扉を選んでいれば即死。さすがに必死のダイブは遠慮したいわ。
“If you chose another door, you would have died instantly. Even I would hesitate to make a desperate dive.”
We see a shift from the English translation painting Kirari as cruel, willing to cut Sayaka loose and die if she didn’t choose the right door, while in Japanese, Kirari is acknowledging that what Sayaka did — jumping seemingly without thinking about it — is not something she would do, which highlights how they’re opposites.
TL;DR: Yes, Kirari cares a lot about Sayaka. If she didn’t, she wouldn’t have been able to craft a tower filled with puzzles Sayaka excels at, knew how she would navigate the tower, or invite her back to be her secretary while also letting Sayaka negotiate the terms of her position. Keep in mind that the instant Kaede lost and lost whatever interested Kirari, she fired him from the council immediately. When Kirari is done with someone or something, she tends to be done. That’s not the case with Sayaka: she’s been charmed by her over and over. Sayaka chose Kirari when she asked to join the council, Kirari chose Sayaka when she hired her as secretary, and Kirari chose Sayaka again in the lily field after their gamble when Sayaka thought she had lost everything.
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