I'm Amorphous, a female shape-shifting dragon (she/her). My main form is a wingless drake, I can change between a wyvern and aquatic form at will. I'm not dragonkin(d) and won't tag my posts as such, but I do post in the draconic tag.
I'm an adult, well over 100 years old, although I no longer live. You can expect community commentary or writings about my life in my posts. I'm not really one to reblog much content unless I have something to add. I will also answer asks if I get them.
About my posts: Do not assume malice without confirmation, I happen to speak very flatly. I'm not angry because I don't tack on an "lol" or somesuch to my writings.
Alright I looked up the article for physical alterhumanity on the fandom wiki (what a website for it btw) to make sure my understanding of it is actually correct. Doing my due diligence just in case I've been thinking this is a niche I fall under incorrectly and all that.
Youre telling me the rest of you don't wanna turn into your kintype?
Ngl I'm very critical of that article (on top of my other issues with that wiki in general) because:
1. It's saying alterhuman when it means nonhuman, these are not synonymous
2. It categorizes extremely vanilla nonhuman experiences as physical nonhumanity, like wanting body mods and the desire to look like their -type
It's not just this article either honestly. I've seen an increasing amount of posts over the past year+ of regular nonhuman-identifying experiences being labeled as "physical nonhumanity". Stuff like "if you have phantom shifts that means you're a physical therian", even though that includes...most therians. Or "therians don't actually identify as animals, that means you're a physical therian", even though identifying as an animal is literally the definition of therianthropy. It feels like people are slowly trying to recategorize physical nonhumanity as "I am the most [this]" instead of just a different experience (it's not more, it's just different).
Some parts of the community are watering down physical nonhumanity like crazy, to the point where the definition doesn't seem to have as much weight anymore. I think it's because some nonhumans understand it as being “more nonhuman” and therefore, “more valid” than other types of identities in the nonhuman spectrum, such as spiritual, psychological, etc (which isn't true, of course). But they don't need to identify physically as their types if they aren't physically their types! It's so obvious, and yet-
We physical nonhumans identify physically because our bodies are physically like the ones our 'types have, or we turn physically into our 'types. If you don't see your body as a nonhuman body, you aren't physically nonhuman. And that's okay! It's not a competition, you are not "less nonhuman" than those physical nonhumans.
Maybe it's because they want to be taken seriously more easily? Maybe it's because they are mistaking phantom shifts as physical shifts? Phantom limbs are non-physical. Physical shifts are physical changes in your body. As someone who experiences both, both are different for sure.
I've avoided weighing in on topics like these because of how quickly the scope of physical nonhumanity has expanded, and it often feels like I will be called a gatekeeper faster than I can explain that many of the things being categorized as "physically nonhuman" are very much not exclusive to that at all, or even characteristic of it. Phantom shifts are too commonly considered an indicator that someone is physically nonhuman now, that is one of the most common traits for several nonhuman identities. Even alterhumans that aren't nonhuman whatsoever can experience phantom shifts. I don't have a phantom tail, I have a tail.
It's become increasingly frustrating to try and communicate an experience that is fundamentally different from the average nonhuman-identity experience, so I normally don't bother to do it. There's a reason I don't call myself otherkin or therian (alterhuman either, but there's no escaping its hold in my state), because it's not the same, but trying to articulate how it's not when the vocabulary is scarce results in the impression that it is a contest. I'm not more of a dragon than dragonkin/therians, and they're not less of a dragon than I am, but we are different and it is very important to have the words to say so.
I hope you don't mind me pulling this out of the tags, but this is not true. The second poster is not against physical alterhumans or nonhumans, just puts some distance between those who use "p-shifter" specifically. A couple posts have been made clarifying this. I do the same, for the record. If this still applies to you then by all means feel free to avoid, but this is putting words in their mouth
Alright I looked up the article for physical alterhumanity on the fandom wiki (what a website for it btw) to make sure my understanding of it is actually correct. Doing my due diligence just in case I've been thinking this is a niche I fall under incorrectly and all that.
Youre telling me the rest of you don't wanna turn into your kintype?
Ngl I'm very critical of that article (on top of my other issues with that wiki in general) because:
1. It's saying alterhuman when it means nonhuman, these are not synonymous
2. It categorizes extremely vanilla nonhuman experiences as physical nonhumanity, like wanting body mods and the desire to look like their -type
It's not just this article either honestly. I've seen an increasing amount of posts over the past year+ of regular nonhuman-identifying experiences being labeled as "physical nonhumanity". Stuff like "if you have phantom shifts that means you're a physical therian", even though that includes...most therians. Or "therians don't actually identify as animals, that means you're a physical therian", even though identifying as an animal is literally the definition of therianthropy. It feels like people are slowly trying to recategorize physical nonhumanity as "I am the most [this]" instead of just a different experience (it's not more, it's just different).
Some parts of the community are watering down physical nonhumanity like crazy, to the point where the definition doesn't seem to have as much weight anymore. I think it's because some nonhumans understand it as being “more nonhuman” and therefore, “more valid” than other types of identities in the nonhuman spectrum, such as spiritual, psychological, etc (which isn't true, of course). But they don't need to identify physically as their types if they aren't physically their types! It's so obvious, and yet-
We physical nonhumans identify physically because our bodies are physically like the ones our 'types have, or we turn physically into our 'types. If you don't see your body as a nonhuman body, you aren't physically nonhuman. And that's okay! It's not a competition, you are not "less nonhuman" than those physical nonhumans.
Maybe it's because they want to be taken seriously more easily? Maybe it's because they are mistaking phantom shifts as physical shifts? Phantom limbs are non-physical. Physical shifts are physical changes in your body. As someone who experiences both, both are different for sure.
I've avoided weighing in on topics like these because of how quickly the scope of physical nonhumanity has expanded, and it often feels like I will be called a gatekeeper faster than I can explain that many of the things being categorized as "physically nonhuman" are very much not exclusive to that at all, or even characteristic of it. Phantom shifts are too commonly considered an indicator that someone is physically nonhuman now, that is one of the most common traits for several nonhuman identities. Even alterhumans that aren't nonhuman whatsoever can experience phantom shifts. I don't have a phantom tail, I have a tail.
It's become increasingly frustrating to try and communicate an experience that is fundamentally different from the average nonhuman-identity experience, so I normally don't bother to do it. There's a reason I don't call myself otherkin or therian (alterhuman either, but there's no escaping its hold in my state), because it's not the same, but trying to articulate how it's not when the vocabulary is scarce results in the impression that it is a contest. I'm not more of a dragon than dragonkin/therians, and they're not less of a dragon than I am, but we are different and it is very important to have the words to say so.
Special thanks to our host for helping me transcribe this into a readable format.
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How would you describe yourself?
I’m a dragon, a drake (wingless dragon) more specifically. At the moment I’m also spirit, like some of the other members in our system, as someone who had once been alive and arrived here after death.
What is it like being a dragon? What do you do in a day?
Asking “what is it like being a dragon” is about as vague as “what is it like being a human”.
For what I do, I hibernate. The main things I do are sleep and hold a conversation if someone wants it. I don't move around much, if at all. Some might not consider that fulfilling, but having lived a full life already I don’t exactly yearn for much. I’m content with resting.
In what way are you physically nonhuman? Does your experience intersect with humanity in any way?
It does not, no. I've never been a human and wouldn't know much about it. I’m physically nonhuman in a similar way theriform animals are. This is also why I don't use terms such as otherkin or therian, since theriform animals aren't otherkin or therians of their own species.
How did you learn you were physically nonhuman?
It wasn’t really something I had to discover, I was born as a dragon and died at old age as a dragon. Now even as a spirit I’m still a dragon.
Why would — or wouldn’t — you go with the different types of physical nonhumanity?
Holothere as a term is too broad for me to want to use it, in a similar vein as someone acknowledging they fall under alterhumanity but don’t identify solely as alterhuman because of its broadness. It’s not specific enough. Clinical zoanthrope didn’t match at all since that’s not what I experience, and neither did endel.
Extranth I’ve settled on as “close enough” since I’m a nonhuman system member, although I wish I had something more specific for “extranth that lives in the headspace and not through the meatspace body”.
Some will argue that you’re still ultimately having a human experience, how do you respond?
I speak human language because when I was alive I was allied with a human village that I wanted to communicate with. I disagree that a nonhuman experiencing human influence erases or lessens their nonhumanity, or that sharing a behavior with humans makes them human by default. Two different species can have similar or the same qualities without them being non-distinct.
I don’t exist in the same world that those in meatspace do, I’m just an observer of it from elsewhere. Even if at some point I manage to figure out how fronting works, an example we like to use is “you don’t turn into a bike when you ride one”. If I manage to pilot the human body for some period of time, I won’t magically know the firsthand experience of living a human life.
Are there any struggles or frustrations you have?
It’s frustrating to have others jump to conclusions about myself despite how much I try to explain; the niche of physical nonhumanity that I experience tends to break brains. No matter what, people will reason that I am in some way perceivably human. They’ll assume that I’m a clinical zoanthrope, or an endel, or the associative type of physical nonhuman (IE: I’m nonhuman therefore my body is nonhuman). The very last thing that ever tends to be considered is that I’m being very literal in what I explain about myself, and that annoys me.
Are you interested in any human activities?
Not particularly, I never found myself all that interested in the outside world post-death. I suppose I enjoy swimming, and fishing. But not fishing-pole fishing, fishing in the way seabirds fish, since that’s the way I’d done it when I was alive.
Is it possible for Otherhearted, Otherlinkers, etc to be physical?
Ive had this though in my brain ever since i discovered therianthropy can be physical. Is it possible for other identities similar to those that end with "kin" to be physical, such as otherhearted? Otherlink?
I may be answering myself here, though this is opinion wise, I personally believe that otherhearted identities cant be physical, why? Well, its in the definition of otherhearted. Identifying "with" something. This means that it would not be possible to be a physical identity because you are not that thing you are identifying with. Right? Thoughts on this take?
On the other hand, otherlink can 100% be physical, this is because otherlinking can choose to connect with, identify as, or most likely anything due to their identity. So why not choose to identify as something physical? Thoughts on this take too?
Ive never heard of physical otherlinks, otherhearted (if its possible, idk though), etc besides, well, me. I would say im a physical canine (otherlink or otherhearted, though idk, still wondering which one it is.) due to the fact i have a connection with them, but not as them, and i would like to think i choose this but idk.. Great now im confusing myself even more.. :/
Any thoughts on physical otherlinks, otherhearted, etc?
I would say yes. Physical nonhumanity (holothery) is being fundamentally physically nonhuman. Your brain can be physically nonhuman, while your body would take up the humanoid form.
As a holothere, you cannot be human at all. This would simply mean that if you're physically otherhearted, not only is your heart physically nonhuman, your body would not be human.
if i identity with dolphins on a physical level, that would mean that i am nonhuman (or alterhuman) by proxy.
tldr; if a body part or state of being is physically nonhuman, it is not humanoid/human anymore.
This isn't necessarily true. Physical humans can identify as nonhuman, so it wouldn't make much sense for the double-standard of "physical nonhumans cannot be human" to exist. I have seen this even, where nonhumans identify as human for various reasons. These aren't mutually exclusive things. (Also I'm not sure if this was intentional, but otherheartedness is alterhumanity as well, not something seperate. Alterhumanity does not only include identify-as labels)
To respond to the OP though, I agree that a linked identity can be physical. Hearted I'm not so sure about, since if you are your hearttype then you're kind of moving past otherheartedness and into identify-as labels. Of course, this isn't counting those that have a hearttype and [identity]type of the same thing. Redundancy aside, people have done it before, so it's up to you if that resonates with you.
Why do some people name their therioside? It honestly makes no sense to me, because my theriotypes are... Me? Literally just me. If it's not its own entity, why would I give it a name?
My host wrote about this once, here's a few bulletpoint reasons why one might do this:
- In another life they had/have said name
- Because they want to and not much else
- Integration is a spectrum and some experience therianthropy in a plural-adjacent way, with "them as their theriotype" being completely seperate from "them as a human" and so they might name "their animal(side)".
> "There's nothing good or healthy about physical therians"
It's not inherently unhealthy, distressing or something that "gets worse" for everyone, that's a wide generalization. This even generalizes that all zoanthropes are "my existence is suffering", which isn't the case either.
> "Physical therianthropy and zoanthropy are one and the same thing"
No, they're not. Not all physical nonhumans are zoanthropes or disordered.
If you see someone that is physically nonhuman, please for the love of all that is holy and unholy do not try to lecture them or tell them to "get help". The account in the photos seems to be using their own personal experience as the universal experience, which is not what you should do for infographics. Their criteria of alterhuman is also wrong, it is not limited to psychological beliefs only. I'm not sure where they heard this from.
They know what they're talking about when it comes to their own personal experience, but not physical therians or nonhumans in general.
if youd like to, then interact with this post if youre an alterhuman (therian, extranth, copinglink, otherhearted, otherkin, etc etc) and youre also over the age of 21 !! i see a lot of people saying that we are mostly kids but i find that hard to believe. plus, i want more mutuals !!
While this is no means an issue exclusive to the physically nonhuman community, that is the community I consider myself a part of, so that will be my focus.
With the steady growth in individuals being open about their physical nonhumanity (holotheres and clinical lycan/zoanthropes included), I think we-as-a-community need to sit down and have a discussion on language in order to nip something in the bud before it gets out of hand:
I don't "identify" as [thing], I am [thing].
This phrasing ^ is something I have seen a lot in an attempt to try and create a difficult-to-word distinction from otherkin and therians and the like. I understand there is no harm meant in this (again, it's a very difficult thing to communicate), but we need to be careful not to stray into common bigoted phrasing to try and describe things. Even if it is completely unintentional, the phrase above still carries the connotation that "identifying" as something is somehow different from being the thing, that they are on some level not ""truly"" what they say they are. We must remember that these are synonyms, you are what you identify as, that's what "identify as" means.
To use a personal example: yes, I identify as a dragon. Because I'm a dragon. If I didn't identify as a dragon then I would say I'm something else. To give it a parallel: I identify as female. Because I am female. If I didn't identify as female then I would say I'm something else. If someone identifies as something then they are that thing, full stop. We risk straying into dangerous territory if we mirror phrasing used against transgender individuals on a regular basis. "I don't identify as, I am" is not only flawed and inaccurate phrasing, but carries poor connotations.
I've made some posts in the past about how I've had some difficulty communicating in many otherkin or therian spaces because me physically being a dragon is sometimes quite different experience-wise (not 100% of the time, but often). It is difficult to phrase "was born a dragon, has always been a dragon and never been anything else" in a way that doesn't imply that non-physical dragons aren't dragons still. Because they are.
But what is a better way to say this then? Do we need wording to create distinctions for those that are perceptibly human and those that are not? Even this isn't so simple, because physical nonhumans that seem human outwardly also exist. That doesn't entirely solve the linguistic gap.
Hello physical non humans or holotheres (I think?)
I’m not very educated on this so if some of u can rebark explaining how you identify and how you know ect and how it’s diffrent to clinical zoanthropy because I’m curious if not just dm me ^^
I’m also going to do a poll so please answer on that
For me personally, I'm a spirit in a system of spirits. The host's body might be human, but it's not my body and I don't live through it. I'm still a dragon in my original body, like I was when alive
My complicated relationship with alterhuman as a physical nonhuman
A recent poll got me thinking about my complicated relationship with alterhumanity (the label). It does apply in the sense that I am part of a system, and it can be useful for that, but if you asked in a conversation if I was alterhuman then my short answer would be "no". The reasoning is the same as how an animal you see outside wouldn't be alterhuman, it would just be that animal. I don't have an alternative identity experience. I suppose I do in the sense that the dragon experience is different from the human experience, but again, so is the experience of someone's pet cat, and that cat isn't alterhuman.
So I suppose I'm alterhuman by proxy, but I personally don't identify as alterhuman. It feels strange to do so purely because of where I reside. I'm not -hearted/kith/synpath, or have archetypes, or have a hearthome, or otherkin, or therian, or the laundry list of other things commonly referenced under the umbrella. I do consider myself physically nonhuman, which still falls under alterhuman, but now we circle back around to the cat example again. The cat isn't alterhuman, it's just a cat.
At the end of the day it doesn't stop me from sharing about the times I was still a living dragon, many alterhumans have past lives. The same is true about the body experience, since it's common to have phantom limbs as well, the only disconnect being that theirs are "phantom" and mine are not, and it can be difficult to relate in that sense.
This post isn't to find some alternative label, I'm uninterested, I'm just musing about my experience.
...What is this on about? You can't correct misinformation with more misinformation.
Just doing quads and wearing masks doesn't mean one identifies as nonhuman, sure, but it is a way of expression. Just liking a thing doesn't necessarily mean one is nonhuman either, not on its own, but the remaining:
- connection
- past life
- choice (yes, you can be nonhuman because you want to be nonhuman)
Are very common reasons why someone can be nonhuman. Some are born that way, but by no means all. I'm not sure where you learned this
Sorry babes WHAT. I said very very clearly only a few types of nonhuman. I said only those types because anyone can be nonhuman\alterhuman. I said 'therian\otherkin\objectkin\fictionkin', and none of those are a choice or connection or anything that isn't an involuntary spiritual or mental identity... So babes, read before you come at me. ☠️😭💀
I can read just fine. I've been around for a long time, and while no one is an expert I certainly know enough to know you're wrong here. The idea that is must be involuntary is a very pervasive myth. I'm not saying it is the same as what kinnies claim it is, it's definitely not, but not everyone who is otherkin or therian was that way from birth due to spiritual or psychological reasons. Someone can believe deeply that they want to be, and that is enough to make it so. "I feel like I should be a [nonhuman thing] and I really want to be, but I don't have a nonhuman soul or past life, or think this because of a disorder, so I guess it's impossible" is...not how things work. Whatsoever. Even for connection, you can feel a deep enough connection with something to consider yourself also that thing.
I've been in the nonhuman communities longer than you've been alive, perhaps read and be open to the possibility of learning before becoming confrontational. You can't correct anyone on anything if you're not open to teaching moments.
I have no clue what your on about. therians otherkin fictionkin and objection isn't a choice. I'm gonna assume you're an adult and you read my bio saying I'm a minor. So an adult is arguing with a minor who clearly knows more than them. I'm not saying if you have a past life you can't be alterhuman, I'm saying it's not fully based on that. If you don't have a nonhuman soul or a nonhuman mind, you aren't a therian, otherkin, or objectkin. [Fictionkins are different because it's not necessarily non human] . I don't care if you have a disability, a past life, no connection, anything, just do research. It's NOT about quads, it's NOT about connection, and it's NOT about past lifes, and that's just that. You can't change my mind because I'm a alterhuman and I've done years and years and years of research.
You seem to be misunderstanding, and also misconstrued "I've had a lot more time to do research and learn things" into ageism. Somehow. You can't do research longer than you've been old enough to read, that's not me being cheeky, I'm stating. I want you to continue doing research and learn some things, if I didn't then I wouldn't be talking to you at all.
There's a difference between "It's not only about this" and "It's not this whatsoever". I'm saying "nonhuman" in-context here, I am aware not all nonhumans are otherkin or therians, my wording is for the sake of simplicity in this specific explanation.
Nonhumanity isn't only about quads, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But they are a common way of expressing oneself.
Nonhumanity isn't only about past lives, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But it is one of the most common explanations you'll find if you ask a large group of nonhumans.
Nonhumanity isn't only about connection, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But like I said before, someone can feel a deep enough connection to [thing] to consider themselves that on an intrinsic level. Feeling a deep connection and not identifying as the thing is hearted/kith/synpath, but someone can identify as the thing because they have that connection.
Nonhumanity isn't only about disability, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But someone can attribute their disability as one of the reasons they identify as they do.
Nonhumanity isn't only always a choice, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But someone can identify as nonhuman because they want to, it doesn't have to be something you have no say in. Some are nonhuman because they are simply happier that way than they are identifying as human, and that is fine. That doesn't disqualify them from being otherkin or therian, nor does it inherently make their identity "less serious". Someone being a bird therian because they have a deep connection with birds and considers themselves one of them because of it isn't a taboo concept. Neither is being a bird therian because being a bird makes someone happy. Nonhumanity isn't all dysphoria, euphoria can be just as important.
"Having a nonhuman mind" doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are several reasons why someone might identify the way that they do, it makes no sense to treat it like a plant with no roots.
You're really pissing me off. IM NOT TALKING FOR EVERY FORM OF NON HUMANITY. IM TALKING ABOUT THERIANS, OTHERKINS, FICTIONKINS AND OBJECT KIND. NOT ANYTHING ELSE. ONLY THEM. IM SO DONE BECAUSE ASK ANY INFORMED PERSON IM IN THE RIGHT. THIS IS SO STUPID
I'm *NOT* speaking for all alterhumans, stop arguing about them! I'm talking about 4, specific types.
> "I'm saying "nonhuman" in-context here, I am aware not all nonhumans are otherkin or therians, my wording is for the sake of simplicity in this specific explanation."
Re-sharing this part, for clarity. I've already stated we're talking about the same thing here (otherkin and therians), not all nonhumans. If you're extremely heated by this, I recommend stepping back before responding, but I've said all I was going to say on this. I'm just clarifying what I've already said since it seems to be misunderstood here.
...What is this on about? You can't correct misinformation with more misinformation.
Just doing quads and wearing masks doesn't mean one identifies as nonhuman, sure, but it is a way of expression. Just liking a thing doesn't necessarily mean one is nonhuman either, not on its own, but the remaining:
- connection
- past life
- choice (yes, you can be nonhuman because you want to be nonhuman)
Are very common reasons why someone can be nonhuman. Some are born that way, but by no means all. I'm not sure where you learned this
Sorry babes WHAT. I said very very clearly only a few types of nonhuman. I said only those types because anyone can be nonhuman\alterhuman. I said 'therian\otherkin\objectkin\fictionkin', and none of those are a choice or connection or anything that isn't an involuntary spiritual or mental identity... So babes, read before you come at me. ☠️😭💀
I can read just fine. I've been around for a long time, and while no one is an expert I certainly know enough to know you're wrong here. The idea that is must be involuntary is a very pervasive myth. I'm not saying it is the same as what kinnies claim it is, it's definitely not, but not everyone who is otherkin or therian was that way from birth due to spiritual or psychological reasons. Someone can believe deeply that they want to be, and that is enough to make it so. "I feel like I should be a [nonhuman thing] and I really want to be, but I don't have a nonhuman soul or past life, or think this because of a disorder, so I guess it's impossible" is...not how things work. Whatsoever. Even for connection, you can feel a deep enough connection with something to consider yourself also that thing.
I've been in the nonhuman communities longer than you've been alive, perhaps read and be open to the possibility of learning before becoming confrontational. You can't correct anyone on anything if you're not open to teaching moments.
I have no clue what your on about. therians otherkin fictionkin and objection isn't a choice. I'm gonna assume you're an adult and you read my bio saying I'm a minor. So an adult is arguing with a minor who clearly knows more than them. I'm not saying if you have a past life you can't be alterhuman, I'm saying it's not fully based on that. If you don't have a nonhuman soul or a nonhuman mind, you aren't a therian, otherkin, or objectkin. [Fictionkins are different because it's not necessarily non human] . I don't care if you have a disability, a past life, no connection, anything, just do research. It's NOT about quads, it's NOT about connection, and it's NOT about past lifes, and that's just that. You can't change my mind because I'm a alterhuman and I've done years and years and years of research.
You seem to be misunderstanding, and also misconstrued "I've had a lot more time to do research and learn things" into ageism. Somehow. You can't do research longer than you've been old enough to read, that's not me being cheeky, I'm stating. I want you to continue doing research and learn some things, if I didn't then I wouldn't be talking to you at all.
There's a difference between "It's not only about this" and "It's not this whatsoever". I'm saying "nonhuman" in-context here, I am aware not all nonhumans are otherkin or therians, my wording is for the sake of simplicity in this specific explanation.
Nonhumanity isn't only about quads, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But they are a common way of expressing oneself.
Nonhumanity isn't only about past lives, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But it is one of the most common explanations you'll find if you ask a large group of nonhumans.
Nonhumanity isn't only about connection, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But like I said before, someone can feel a deep enough connection to [thing] to consider themselves that on an intrinsic level. Feeling a deep connection and not identifying as the thing is hearted/kith/synpath, but someone can identify as the thing because they have that connection.
Nonhumanity isn't only about disability, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But someone can attribute their disability as one of the reasons they identify as they do.
Nonhumanity isn't only always a choice, that is true, no one here is arguing about this. But someone can identify as nonhuman because they want to, it doesn't have to be something you have no say in. Some are nonhuman because they are simply happier that way than they are identifying as human, and that is fine. That doesn't disqualify them from being otherkin or therian, nor does it inherently make their identity "less serious". Someone being a bird therian because they have a deep connection with birds and considers themselves one of them because of it isn't a taboo concept. Neither is being a bird therian because being a bird makes someone happy. Nonhumanity isn't all dysphoria, euphoria can be just as important.
"Having a nonhuman mind" doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are several reasons why someone might identify the way that they do, it makes no sense to treat it like a plant with no roots.
...What is this on about? You can't correct misinformation with more misinformation.
Just doing quads and wearing masks doesn't mean one identifies as nonhuman, sure, but it is a way of expression. Just liking a thing doesn't necessarily mean one is nonhuman either, not on its own, but the remaining:
- connection
- past life
- choice (yes, you can be nonhuman because you want to be nonhuman)
Are very common reasons why someone can be nonhuman. Some are born that way, but by no means all. I'm not sure where you learned this
Sorry babes WHAT. I said very very clearly only a few types of nonhuman. I said only those types because anyone can be nonhuman\alterhuman. I said 'therian\otherkin\objectkin\fictionkin', and none of those are a choice or connection or anything that isn't an involuntary spiritual or mental identity... So babes, read before you come at me. ☠️😭💀
I can read just fine. I've been around for a long time, and while no one is an expert I certainly know enough to know you're wrong here. The idea that is must be involuntary is a very pervasive myth. I'm not saying it is the same as what kinnies claim it is, it's definitely not, but not everyone who is otherkin or therian was that way from birth due to spiritual or psychological reasons. Someone can believe deeply that they want to be, and that is enough to make it so. "I feel like I should be a [nonhuman thing] and I really want to be, but I don't have a nonhuman soul or past life, or think this because of a disorder, so I guess it's impossible" is...not how things work. Whatsoever. Even for connection, you can feel a deep enough connection with something to consider yourself also that thing.
I've been in the nonhuman communities longer than you've been alive, perhaps read and be open to the possibility of learning before becoming confrontational. You can't correct anyone on anything if you're not open to teaching moments.
...What is this on about? You can't correct misinformation with more misinformation.
Just doing quads and wearing masks doesn't mean one identifies as nonhuman, sure, but it is a way of expression. Just liking a thing doesn't necessarily mean one is nonhuman either, not on its own, but the remaining:
- connection
- past life
- choice (yes, you can be nonhuman because you want to be nonhuman)
Are very common reasons why someone can be nonhuman. Some are born that way, but by no means all. I'm not sure where you learned this
Can somecritter actually explain Physical therians to me? I have a general idea, but I want like reposts / replies / inbox messages, anything really, with YOUR specific experiences and I want in depth conversation about it please and thank you! It would help alot and I love hearing about everyones identities!
I'm not a therian, but I am physically nonhuman, so this might answer some of your questions. I'm currently part of a system, and within the headspace I'm fully a dragon. I don't live life through the human body of the host, so identifying as human in any way makes little sense for me. I'm open to conversation about it, if you'd like
