I could talk for days about the ruin Regulus stans have brought upon Lily Evans.
The only personality Lily was given, was that she was the loveliest, most kind woman some of the wizarding world ever had the pleasure of knowing, she was a fantastic mother, and she and her husband were 100% head over heels for each other. That is literally it. Then here comes Jegulus shippers to rip that all away to make her either a hateful repugnant bitch, or a baby oven for their Harry Potter-Black delusion. FOR SOMEONE WHO CANONICALLY WANTED HER DEAD. But hey, at least the canon blood-supremacist muggleborn murderer and the complete opposite freedom fighter for muggleborns give the fandom one more gay couple for representation right? Who cares if the deep rooted misogyny within it took us two steps backwards? ☺️
Jegulily is worse than Jegulus, Regulus was canonically a blood supremacist, he believed and carried out Voldemort’s views. His reason for deflecting is even worse. It wasn’t the countless muggleborn and halfblood witches and wizards being brutally murdered in their homes, on the streets etc etc, no no it was because he was personally affected by the life of his ugly little blood supremacist house-elf being threatened by Voldemort. Jegulus/jegulilys can turn Regulus into some soft little emo boy who didn’t know that killing innocent ppl was wrong 😇 but it won’t change the fact that in canon he was a hateful bastard prick who deserved to experience the same painful end others most likely experienced under his wand as a death eater. Oppressor x oppressed will always be gross.
But there isn’t enough canonical info to suggest that he was a terrible person, or that Kreacher’s mistreatment was the only reason behind his defection. He was a literal child when he made the colossal mistake of joining the DEs because he believed it would have made his family proud of him or it was expected of him. Or perhaps the most feasible, to protect his family.
“They weren’t alone either, there were quite a few people, before Voldemort showed his true colours, who thought he had the right idea about things… They got cold feet when they saw what he was prepared to do to get power, though.”-Sirius in OOTP
These quotes by Hermione and Sirius are interesting because they imply that the pureblood rhetoric the Blacks believed in didn’t actually fully align with Voldemort’s in the first place, and they also sadly support my view that Regulus wasn’t fully aware of what he was getting himself into, then add his cousin, family turbulence in to the mix…he was clearly in a very vulnerable position.
Though I don’t think he was forced to by his parents and nor do I think they would have wanted it for him either, the sad thing is, he believed it would make them proud (just as Sirius himself believed in OOTP). Given who his cousin was, it’s not a long shot to assume she sunk her claws into him when his brother ran away and he was feeling a lot of hurt and pressure anyway at the time. It’s also worth pointing out that even the most minor or insignificant problems are magnified and heightened when you’re a teen…
It just doesn’t sound like he joined because he actually wanted to murder people to me (which would have been the mindset of a sadistic adult not a hurt, vulnerable kid), even Hermione herself says in the Deathly Hallows that Regulus wanted to “protect them all”. So it’s actually supported by canon…
He was also barely 18 when he chose to defect and made the ultimate sacrifice. (My pinned post actually goes into his defection and his inner turmoil in much more thorough detail).
I can’t even see him being actively involved that much in his short run as a DE, let alone “murdering” someone, given how he was still at school for most of it and the trace would have been in place. It would have been impossible for him to be this “murdering scumbag” you’re trying to paint him as, given his age and the very limited time he even was a DE (2 years).
So please stop trying make this character out to be someone much worse than he really was in canon.
Please explain to us all what he actually did as a DE, and provide the concrete evidence in canon to support those inflammatory statements. ‘Slander’ sounds about right.
“FOR SOMEONE WHO CANONICALLY WANTED HER DEAD.” EVIDENCE?
By the time he would have taken the mark, the privileged Black family had 2 from 1 generation turn their back against their ideals. Voldemort was not stupid, he would have made his followers prove themselves worthy, especially one whose cousin and brother defected from such a ‘loyal’ family to his cause.
I could talk for days about the ruin Regulus stans have brought upon Lily Evans.
The only personality Lily was given, was that she was the loveliest, most kind woman some of the wizarding world ever had the pleasure of knowing, she was a fantastic mother, and she and her husband were 100% head over heels for each other. That is literally it. Then here comes Jegulus shippers to rip that all away to make her either a hateful repugnant bitch, or a baby oven for their Harry Potter-Black delusion. FOR SOMEONE WHO CANONICALLY WANTED HER DEAD. But hey, at least the canon blood-supremacist muggleborn murderer and the complete opposite freedom fighter for muggleborns give the fandom one more gay couple for representation right? Who cares if the deep rooted misogyny within it took us two steps backwards? ☺️
Jegulily is worse than Jegulus, Regulus was canonically a blood supremacist, he believed and carried out Voldemort’s views. His reason for deflecting is even worse. It wasn’t the countless muggleborn and halfblood witches and wizards being brutally murdered in their homes, on the streets etc etc, no no it was because he was personally affected by the life of his ugly little blood supremacist house-elf being threatened by Voldemort. Jegulus/jegulilys can turn Regulus into some soft little emo boy who didn’t know that killing innocent ppl was wrong 😇 but it won’t change the fact that in canon he was a hateful bastard prick who deserved to experience the same painful end others most likely experienced under his wand as a death eater. Oppressor x oppressed will always be gross.
But there isn’t enough canonical info to suggest that he was a terrible person, or that Kreacher’s mistreatment was the only reason behind his defection. He was a literal child when he made the colossal mistake of joining the DEs because he believed it would have made his family proud of him or it was expected of him. Or perhaps the most feasible, to protect his family.
“They weren’t alone either, there were quite a few people, before Voldemort showed his true colours, who thought he had the right idea about things… They got cold feet when they saw what he was prepared to do to get power, though.”-Sirius in OOTP
These quotes by Hermione and Sirius are interesting because they imply that the pureblood rhetoric the Blacks believed in didn’t actually fully align with Voldemort’s in the first place, and they also sadly support my view that Regulus wasn’t fully aware of what he was getting himself into, then add his cousin, family turbulence in to the mix…he was clearly in a very vulnerable position.
Though I don’t think he was forced to by his parents and nor do I think they would have wanted it for him either, the sad thing is, he believed it would make them proud (just as Sirius himself believed in OOTP). Given who his cousin was, it’s not a long shot to assume she sunk her claws into him when his brother ran away and he was feeling a lot of hurt and pressure anyway at the time. It’s also worth pointing out that even the most minor or insignificant problems are magnified and heightened when you’re a teen…
It just doesn’t sound like he joined because he actually wanted to murder people to me (which would have been the mindset of a sadistic adult not a hurt, vulnerable kid), even Hermione herself says in the Deathly Hallows that Regulus wanted to “protect them all”. So it’s actually supported by canon…
He was also barely 18 when he chose to defect and made the ultimate sacrifice. (My pinned post actually goes into his defection and his inner turmoil in much more thorough detail).
I can’t even see him being actively involved that much in his short run as a DE, let alone “murdering” someone, given how he was still at school for most of it and the trace would have been in place. It would have been impossible for him to be this “murdering scumbag” you’re trying to paint him as, given his age and the very limited time he even was a DE (2 years).
So please stop trying make this character out to be someone much worse than he really was in canon.
Please explain to us all what he actually did as a DE, and provide the concrete evidence in canon to support those inflammatory statements. ‘Slander’ sounds about right.
“FOR SOMEONE WHO CANONICALLY WANTED HER DEAD.” EVIDENCE?
I could talk for days about the ruin Regulus stans have brought upon Lily Evans.
The only personality Lily was given, was that she was the loveliest, most kind woman some of the wizarding world ever had the pleasure of knowing, she was a fantastic mother, and she and her husband were 100% head over heels for each other. That is literally it. Then here comes Jegulus shippers to rip that all away to make her either a hateful repugnant bitch, or a baby oven for their Harry Potter-Black delusion. FOR SOMEONE WHO CANONICALLY WANTED HER DEAD. But hey, at least the canon blood-supremacist muggleborn murderer and the complete opposite freedom fighter for muggleborns give the fandom one more gay couple for representation right? Who cares if the deep rooted misogyny within it took us two steps backwards? ☺️
Jegulily is worse than Jegulus, Regulus was canonically a blood supremacist, he believed and carried out Voldemort’s views. His reason for deflecting is even worse. It wasn’t the countless muggleborn and halfblood witches and wizards being brutally murdered in their homes, on the streets etc etc, no no it was because he was personally affected by the life of his ugly little blood supremacist house-elf being threatened by Voldemort. Jegulus/jegulilys can turn Regulus into some soft little emo boy who didn’t know that killing innocent ppl was wrong 😇 but it won’t change the fact that in canon he was a hateful bastard prick who deserved to experience the same painful end others most likely experienced under his wand as a death eater. Oppressor x oppressed will always be gross.
But there isn’t enough canonical info to suggest that he was a terrible person, or that Kreacher’s mistreatment was the only reason behind his defection. He was a literal child when he made the colossal mistake of joining the DEs because he believed it would have made his family proud of him or it was expected of him. Or perhaps the most feasible, to protect his family.
“They weren’t alone either, there were quite a few people, before Voldemort showed his true colours, who thought he had the right idea about things… They got cold feet when they saw what he was prepared to do to get power, though.”-Sirius in OOTP
These quotes by Hermione and Sirius are interesting because they imply that the pureblood rhetoric the Blacks believed in didn’t actually fully align with Voldemort’s in the first place, and they also sadly support my view that Regulus wasn’t fully aware of what he was getting himself into, then add his cousin, family turbulence in to the mix…he was clearly in a very vulnerable position.
Though I don’t think he was forced to by his parents and nor do I think they would have wanted it for him either, the sad thing is, he believed it would make them proud (just as Sirius himself believed in OOTP). Given who his cousin was, it’s not a long shot to assume she sunk her claws into him when his brother ran away and he was feeling a lot of hurt and pressure anyway at the time. It’s also worth pointing out that even the most minor or insignificant problems are magnified and heightened when you’re a teen…
It just doesn’t sound like he joined because he actually wanted to murder people to me (which would have been the mindset of a sadistic adult not a hurt, vulnerable kid), even Hermione herself says in the Deathly Hallows that Regulus wanted to “protect them all”. So it’s actually supported by canon…
He was also barely 18 when he chose to defect and made the ultimate sacrifice. (My pinned post actually goes into his defection and his inner turmoil in much more thorough detail).
I can’t even see him being actively involved that much in his short run as a DE, let alone “murdering” someone, given how he was still at school for most of it and the trace would have been in place. It would have been impossible for him to be this “murdering scumbag” you’re trying to paint him as, given his age and the very limited time he even was a DE (2 years).
So please stop trying make this character out to be someone much worse than he really was in canon.
Please explain to us all what he actually did as a DE, and provide the concrete evidence in canon to support those inflammatory statements. ‘Slander’ sounds about right.
“FOR SOMEONE WHO CANONICALLY WANTED HER DEAD.” EVIDENCE?
What always intrigues me is how he gave kreker to Voldemort ,because it kinda means he was loyal to Voldemort until then , because why would he trust the man not hurt the elf otherwise? or did he do it out of fear sacrificing the closest thing he had to family just so he can not be punished or he just dint care enough at the time ?the later 2 seem unlikely seeing how much grows to regret it because Kraker getting hurt pushes him over the edge , and he willing dies for his mistake . Who wouldn't be pissed ...the elf probably raised him , and cared about him more than anyone in his family did , and had total loyalty , dosen't even resent him for sending him to be tortured . He fucked up even more believing he needed to take bloody revenge at the cost of his own life to make it up to him while kreacker wouldn't have wanted his death in a thousand years , and was left alone in that house with the pendent to grow insane , since Sirius got shipped to askaban , fucking tragic
Regulus was only a child when he made a colossal mistake of joining the DEs with the misguided hope that he could bring honour to his family and make them proud of him. Imagine what kind of radicalised BS Bellatrix was feeding him just after his brother ran away (which would’ve added more pressure on him), when he was already feeling a lot of hurt and turbulence at the time.
Regulus was brought up with long held views in a very insular environment. And yet, we as readers don’t know for sure what his thought process was, only that he definitely started having doubts on his own when he was a teenager without any positive influences around him. Unlike Sirius, whose friends and housemates were all from different backgrounds from the beginning. We also don’t know if Andromeda believed in the rhetoric or not before she met Ted, we don’t even know how they fell in love in the first place. There’s literally no canonical info whatsoever about this at all, so she’s not a good comparison to use when you’re really just trying to bash another character based on assumptions.
“What do wizard wars mean to an elf like Kreacher? He's loyal to people who are kind to him, and Mrs. Black must have been, and Regulus certainly was, so he served them willingly and parroted their beliefs. I know what you're going to say," she went on as Harry began to protest, "that Regulus changed his mind . . . but he doesn't seem to have explained that to Kreacher, does he? And I think I know why. Kreacher and Regulus's family were all safer if they kept to the old pure-blood line. Regulus was trying to protect them all."-Deathly Hallows
Kreacher’s Tale suggests to me that his defection went far deeper than Kreacher’s mistreatment but the latter was certainly a part of it. It’s worth pointing out that he drank the potion of despair instead of ordering Kreacher to drink it, and he told Kreacher to get out of the cave for Kreacher’s sake.
"Master Regulus was very worried, very worried. Master Regulus told Kreacher to stay hidden and not to leave the house. And then ... it was a little while later ... Master Regulus came to find Kreacher in his cupboard one night, and Master Regulus was strange, not as he usually was, disturbed in his mind, Kreacher could tell ... and he asked Kreacher to take him to the cave, the cave where Kreacher had gone with the Dark Lord ..."-Deathly Hallows
He defected bravely when he had no one to go to, and he was the first to do so at the height of the war. Try to imagine what everyone was going through at the time, on both sides, let alone an 18 year old defector. So no wonder he didn’t feel like blindly trusting a man who callously let his older brother rot in Azkaban for 12 years without a trial for crimes he didn’t actually commit. The war pretty much changed everyone, that’s why Sirius and Lupin didn’t even trust each other at the time. (Please refer to my pinned post about his defection)
Why would anyone want to go from one master to another? Or maybe RAB felt so incriminated that he thought no one would have given him the time of day anyway? Or that he didn’t deserve it? And that included his older brother, and the Order.
He was only human…who just wanted to do the right thing on his terms whilst he was going through a lot internally (judging by Kreacher’s quote); even if it meant not surviving. And he didn’t want to compromise the safety of the people he cared about by doing so, which again; included his brother. That’s why even Sirius himself wasn’t aware of his brother’s heroism.
Given how Snape chose to make the informed decision as an adult after he left school, whilst RAB chose to defect on his own at the same age, they are not the same. They are both Slytherin heroes, but their circumstances and family backgrounds were very different.
And why is it that we’re all expected to accept the flaws of James Potter, but you’re judging people for liking Snape and RAB who both defected from the DEs? Hypocritical, much?! It’s not like they were still DEs, and their defection speaks to the obvious fact that they are not “pureblood supremacists”. And no, Regulus didn’t defect because of Kreacher’s mistreatment alone, as I’ve already explained in my other posts.
Bunch of feel bad for the murdering death eater terrorist rubbish, next.
“Imagine what Bellatrix was feeding him” and is there anything to suggest that she was? I was under the impression that he held those beliefs very well on his own.
Believe it or not, you still can believe in something while acknowledging that other people who believe in the same thing are taking it *too far*, defection of the DEs does not = not blood supremacists.
I have no sympathy for those who join terrorist groups knowing they’re terrorist groups who hurt, torture and kill their victims and then they decide ‘woah, this terrorist group is taking it too far 😟😟’.
There were a lot of people that deflected from Voldemort, Snape, Regulus, Lucius & Draco (Narcissa by association), Karkaroff, Peter.
Snape did it for Lily, Regulus did it for Kreacher, the Malfoys did it for each other, Karkaroff did it for an excuse, Peter did it to spare Harry.
Each and everyone of those people deflected Voldemort for their own personal reasons, but they also -
Allowed children to be orphaned.
Allowed entire families to be snuffed out like they were nothing.
Allowed people to be tortured, killed, and god knows what else.
They allowed it and took part/stood by while it happened until the war started affecting them or people they cared about, then they turned their backs and got glorified like they didn’t all make that choice knowing what the DEs were, what they stood for, and what they did.
No sympathy, no excuses, and no care about any DE, for whatever their reasoning was for joining or whether they deflected or not. Regulus (and the others) made their bed, now they’re lying in it.
You can love a character & still admit when they’re wrong. I love James Potter but I acknowledge his flaws (none, he’s perfect) and I can hold him accountable for his wrongdoings (he’s never done anything wrong in his life) and call him out on his actions (which are always right).
Hey! I just wanted you to know that you are part of the Jily community, your fics are gorgeously written (you wrote the best smut this year, no contest!) and frankly, we don't deserve you, but thanks for sticking around and sharing your talent with us!
Hey Guys,
So I tried to stay positive and hang in there for you guys, but honestly, I just can’t do it anymore. I need a break. This fandom used to be fun, but I think it’s obvious that lately it’s been anything but for a whole lot of people. It’s even worse when the ppl delivering the blows are the same ppl you thought had your back. I started writing during the pandemic bc I wanted to entertain ppl with hot smut — and that’s it — but I never dreamed I’d become engulfed in a political dumpster fire. It’s become apparent that I keep being used as a scapegoat in a purity war trying to paint me as having beliefs that I don’t. Full stop.
Jilyawards and @Missgryffin (the cohost) have decided that all my fics are ineligible to even be nominated this year — even while her Slytherin Lily fic still is. I asked them to put it to a vote and let the community decide, but they declined saying they personally knew what was best for the community. (MG told me a few hours before my last chapter was scheduled to go live at midnight, but after I’d already edited it and had it ready to go while I went out for the night [something I told MG]… hence her weird attempt at calling me out is a double slap in the face.) Both ppl running the awards know that my fics are not bigoted, have said so, but they have chosen to cave to the side that used the most anon hate and death threats (MG cited these as a reason for my exclusion directly to me). This sets a dangerous precedent.
It’s also just really mean to throw me under the bus on a personal level.
Obviously, I think it’s problematic when 2 people are allowed to dictate what is supposed to be a community vote — especially considering they are saying who is even allowed to be nominated in the same categories as them. It is weird when one person is allowed to disqualify 2 other finalists and leave herself in.
The whole thing reeks.
Transparency in voting matters. Allowing ppl to actually vote matters. Not censoring matters. I’m sorry not everyone agrees.
All I wanted was a vote to finally, actually hear the community’s true opinion on the matter instead of it being decided for you, behind closed doors, yet again. Why couldn’t it be voted upon? There’s no closure here and this doesn’t heal anything.
The only silver lining here is that @scriibble-fics is back after she was nearly entirely excluded as well. I hope you will join me in voting for her in every single category.
Sending hate is never the answer. Sending insults is wrong. But you should always be allowed to say when you disagree with how something is being done. Your vote matters.
Or at least, it should if it was allowed to be cast.
Ostracising writers and banning a whole category after writing something a year ago that would have fit exactly into that category? because you fear what people say about you on tumblr will not hide the fact that you also were writing your very own dark!james fic and you’re a sheep who thought if she didn’t update a story for a whole year it would die in everyone’s minds? Throwing people with the same writing interests as you under the bus? Talk about not looking in the mirror, hypocrite. Check yourself before you check other people 🫣
Ok so I was saw this while scrolling the Harry Potter tag😭 I’m wheezing rn
Can I unpack this?
A few harmless spells
They used illegal spells.
Illegal. Spells.
See the chapter where Snape gave detention to Harry after the Sectumsempra incident.
Now maybe there are illegal spells which aren’t dark but seeing how they became illegal Animagi, I won’t put it past them.
And I wouldn’t call choking someone with soap (which could kill someone…common sense not so common) a “harmless” spell. And just because Severus invented levicorpus didn’t give Pothead the green light to use it to expose Snape to a crowd of people.
Came out of the womb with a dark mark
Babe what!? Yes because being abused and neglected at home and then being relentlessly bullied at a school you thought would be a safe haven DEFINITELY wouldn’t push someone to make bad decisions!
He totally was always a blood supremacist and joined Voldemort because he 100% believed in his ideals, and totally not because he wanted a chance at a better life (which was promised to people who joined btw)… but moving on
Salivating
And do…what about it?
(And not all of us salivate over him, you see what you wanna see)
Partially responsible for the deaths of witches and wizards all over the UK
😀…according to my calculations (correct me if I’m wrong pls), Snape officially joined the ranks of Voldemort from 1978-1981 which means he was only on the dark side for 3 years…chill 💀
Going back to the “came out mom with a dark mark” crap…he didn’t join until after he graduated…so the “they bullied him because he was a DE” argument just flew out the window birdy style 🕊
Serial killer
This was the funniest one tbh! Congratulations for making a joke…but uuumm a serial killer by definition is A person who commits a SERIES of murders, often with no apparent motive and typically following a characteristic, predictable behavior pattern.
Serial killers have typically murdered THREE OR MORE people…
The only person he out right murdered was Dumbledore…he watched Charity Burbage die and couldn’t do anything about it, and he unknowingly aided the deaths of the Potters but actually tried to stop it from happening (he would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for that meddling Pettigrew 🐀)
He’s saved more lives than he took…but who’s counting, right!?
You bring up an example of an illegal spell when it was quite literally Snape’s own creation?
Why shouldn’t have James used his spell against him? Snape created it and it would’ve dawned on him that if it was used against Hogwarts female population, it would’ve exposed them too.
He was bullied because he was a hateful child and a hateful adult. And before you come at me like “oh they made him like that boo hoo” if so then he would’ve formed a hatred for purebloods, not the opposite of the spectrum.
If you can look at a group that wants to kill your friend and people like her, who kill children, innocent men and women for being ‘lesser’ and still want to join them because they promise you a better life than the one you’ve got, you’re selfish and scum.
Yes, he was in it for three whole years. Here’s something that’s probably shocking to you, even if you have no part to play in any murders that were definitely committed in those three years (which I seriously doubt because what else would he be there for?) being part of a group that murders those people still means you have partial responsibility.
He called people mudblood (canon), he defended the use of dark magic (canon), he created 3 spells, one of which was no doubt harmful and 2 that could be used in harmful ways in the wrong hands. It was pretty clear to anyone with the exception of Lily what path he was going down.
He was a death eater. What do you think he was there for if not to hurt and kill? Because I doubt Voldemort gave out dark marks like they were nothing without having them prove themselves multiple times. Just because it wasn’t written about, it doesn’t mean he never killed anyone else. I’d say it’s pretty much implied you’re going to have to repeatedly, by the ‘death eater’ title alone.
He told Voldemort about the prophecy, knowing a baby would be murdered. Then only did something about it because it was the baby of the girl he called mudblood a few years prior.
I know reading isn’t some peoples strong suit so I’ll break it down: I said “see the chapter where Snape gave Harry detention after the sectumsempra incident”…if you actually took time to do that, you’d know that it had nothing to do with Snape 😀 the illegal spells I was talking about werent regarding Snape, they used them on other students…
On this second “point” of yours, you use a lot of “ifs” and I don’t think that hold water very well in argument 🤔 don’t argue with ifs, argue with whats in canon: James went to go FIND Snape, who was minding his own business, and disarmed him…hung him upside down…and choked him with soap (which could kill someone)…how about we not beat around the bush and let’s just call it what it is, shall we?
And if you bring up Mudblood, I’m gonna have an even more good time…all of that ^ happened before he said it…so dont try that 💀 pls
“They bullied him because he was a hateful child and a hateful adult”…excuse me while I laugh! Babes, James said it out his own snout that he bullied Severus because he existed. Now I don’t know about you but, if Severus was so big and bad like you say…he could’ve came up with something better than “he exists”…I also find it HILARIOUS how you said “and a hateful adult” as if the Marauders can look into the future and predict that he’d have problems as an adult…pls 💀✋🏽
Now let me stop you right there about him joining DEs 🛑 I just want to point out a few key details about DEs in the first war
He didn’t join DEs while in school; he joined in 1978 which is after he graduated and was only a DE for three years.
It’s stated in the books that not all of them knew of Voldemort’s true intentions..
They weren’t alone either, there were quite a few people, before Voldemort showed his true colours, who thought he had the right idea about things… They got cold feet when they saw what he was prepared to do to get power, though.
Not every single DE was one because they believed in Voldemort’s Pureblood stuff or joined him out of choice. Some joined out of fear for their life, or families. Some were vulnerable and manipulated, some had no choice.
‘This has been a terrible ordeal for her. There will be no punishment. Older and wiser wizards than she have been hoodwinked by Lord Voldemort.’
Anyway, this – this wizard, about twenty years ago now, started lookin’ fer followers. Got ’em, too – some were afraid, some just wanted a bit o’ his power, ’cause he was gettin’ himself power, all right
‘Voldemort doesn’t march up to people’s houses and bang on their front doors, Harry. ‘He tricks, jinxes and blackmails them. He’s well-practised at operating in secret.’
“As he moved up the school, he gathered about him a group of dedicated friends; [...] They were a motley collection; a mixture of the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish gravitating toward a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty.
Ooo that last one is juicy. Sounds like someone? Snape? Yea. A “weak” boy who’s been beaten, neglected, bullied and humiliated his WHOLE life up until that point sounds like the perfect prey for Voldemort. But maybe that’s just me 🤷🏽 there’s a post I’d like to show you but I don’t want you and your friends to go be mean to that person so we won’t get to that
You’re looking at things black and white. The world is not black and white…did he make the wrong decision? Absolutely. But what led him there? What was his reasoning? Was the “dark side” actually dark in his perspective or was he tired of being abused by the “light side”?
Partial responsibility. No shit. I was just laughing at the fact that you called him a serial killer💀 cause by definition, you were WAAYYY off and it was cringey. Snape haters vs blowing things out of proportion to fit their narrative. Also it’s kinda implied that Dumbledore was the first person Snape killed (not that I expect you to know that). When Dumbles was telling him that he had to kill him, Snape was worried about his soul after the fact, if he had already killed people DIRECTLY then his soul is already fucked up right? So why was he worried about it? It was never stated that he killed people other than the ones…actually stated…so let’s not start with the hcs pls.
Oh no…sweety…why are you doing this to yourself 😭 he said Mudblood ONCE (canon). He also stopped someone from saying it (canon). He defends the use of dark magic because it’s just dark magic…I’m curious, do Snape haters realize that dark magic isn’t only used for bad things? It’s like a gun; it can be used for good or bad depending on who’s using it…right? Snape used dark magic in the books to save people or did we forget about that? I hope not. And uuumm…he created 3 spells…OH NO EVERYONE RUN FOR THE HILLS, A KID IS SMART AND CREATED HIS OWN SPELLS 😭💀 goddamn this is sad… yes, one of them would be bad in the wrong hands (as seen with Harry) but everything can be bad in the wrong hands, that’s not his problem. 💀
Ahh yes…The Prophecy™️ you’re right..so sad that he did that..you know what wouldve been worse? If he hadnt spent the next 13+ years risking his life to protect said child..that would have been fucked up huh? You know what would have been EVEN MORE disgusting!? If he expected fame and a pat on the back for protecting Harry…oof right?
"You know how and why she died. Make sure it was not in vain. Help me protect Lily's son."
"He does not need protection. The Dark Lord has gone "
"The Dark Lord will return, and Harry Potter will be in terrible danger when he does."
There was a long pause, and slowly Snape regained control of himself, mastered his own breathing. At last he said, "Very well. Very well. But never - never tell, Dumbledore! This must be between us! Swear it! I cannot bear...especially Potter's son...I want your word!"
"My word, Severus, that I shall never reveal the best of you?" Dumbledore sighed, looking down into Snape's ferocious, anguished face. "If you insist..."
Well this was not how I thought my morning would go! I would like to say I never intend for you to be tagged which is why I didn’t in the first place. I don’t seek argument, if I did, I would have just…reblogged your post… 🤷🏽
Clearly we’re not going to agree with each other on all the rest so I’m not going to do another big deep dive into those other paragraphs, but -
‘he said Mudblood ONCE (canon).’ isn’t true, and it comes directly from Lily’s mouth during the apology. “But you call everyone of my birth Mudblood, Severus. Why should I be any different?”
‘He defends the use of dark magic because it’s just dark magic…I’m curious, do Snape haters realize that dark magic isn’t only used for bad things? It’s like a gun; it can be used for good or bad depending on who’s using it…right?’ In the case where he defended dark magic it was Mulciber using it in a bad way against one of Lily’s Gryffindor classmates, Mary MacDonald.
“We are, Sev, but I don't like some of the people you're hanging round with! I'm sorry, but I detest Avery and Mulciber! Mulciber! What do you see in him, Sev, he's creepy! D'you know what he tried to do to Mary Macdonald the other day?"
Lily had reached a pillar and leaned against it, looking up into the thin, sallow face.
"That was nothing," said Snape. "It was a laugh, that's all--"
"It was Dark Magic, and if you think that's funny--"
I noticed your pinned and how you cropped out my username, so I am aware you weren’t looking for an argument but unfortunately the comments did not get the memo 😯 I try my best to refrain from insulting real people and just go off what I see is fact, so I don’t appreciate being called an idiot because I wasn’t using ‘slander’ down to the dictionary’s very word, and being called whatever else is going on in the reblogs. I am a real person, you are a real person, and at the end of the day I am only debating a fictional book and a fictional character that doesn’t exist on a tumblr blog. Please, don’t insult me over something that isn’t real. 😴 I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
Ok so I was saw this while scrolling the Harry Potter tag😭 I’m wheezing rn
Can I unpack this?
A few harmless spells
They used illegal spells.
Illegal. Spells.
See the chapter where Snape gave detention to Harry after the Sectumsempra incident.
Now maybe there are illegal spells which aren’t dark but seeing how they became illegal Animagi, I won’t put it past them.
And I wouldn’t call choking someone with soap (which could kill someone…common sense not so common) a “harmless” spell. And just because Severus invented levicorpus didn’t give Pothead the green light to use it to expose Snape to a crowd of people.
Came out of the womb with a dark mark
Babe what!? Yes because being abused and neglected at home and then being relentlessly bullied at a school you thought would be a safe haven DEFINITELY wouldn’t push someone to make bad decisions!
He totally was always a blood supremacist and joined Voldemort because he 100% believed in his ideals, and totally not because he wanted a chance at a better life (which was promised to people who joined btw)… but moving on
Salivating
And do…what about it?
(And not all of us salivate over him, you see what you wanna see)
Partially responsible for the deaths of witches and wizards all over the UK
😀…according to my calculations (correct me if I’m wrong pls), Snape officially joined the ranks of Voldemort from 1978-1981 which means he was only on the dark side for 3 years…chill 💀
Going back to the “came out mom with a dark mark” crap…he didn’t join until after he graduated…so the “they bullied him because he was a DE” argument just flew out the window birdy style 🕊
Serial killer
This was the funniest one tbh! Congratulations for making a joke…but uuumm a serial killer by definition is A person who commits a SERIES of murders, often with no apparent motive and typically following a characteristic, predictable behavior pattern.
Serial killers have typically murdered THREE OR MORE people…
The only person he out right murdered was Dumbledore…he watched Charity Burbage die and couldn’t do anything about it, and he unknowingly aided the deaths of the Potters but actually tried to stop it from happening (he would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for that meddling Pettigrew 🐀)
He’s saved more lives than he took…but who’s counting, right!?
You bring up an example of an illegal spell when it was quite literally Snape’s own creation?
Why shouldn’t have James used his spell against him? Snape created it and it would’ve dawned on him that if it was used against Hogwarts female population, it would’ve exposed them too.
He was bullied because he was a hateful child and a hateful adult. And before you come at me like “oh they made him like that boo hoo” if so then he would’ve formed a hatred for purebloods, not the opposite of the spectrum.
If you can look at a group that wants to kill your friend and people like her, who kill children, innocent men and women for being ‘lesser’ and still want to join them because they promise you a better life than the one you’ve got, you’re selfish and scum.
Yes, he was in it for three whole years. Here’s something that’s probably shocking to you, even if you have no part to play in any murders that were definitely committed in those three years (which I seriously doubt because what else would he be there for?) being part of a group that murders those people still means you have partial responsibility.
He called people mudblood (canon), he defended the use of dark magic (canon), he created 3 spells, one of which was no doubt harmful and 2 that could be used in harmful ways in the wrong hands. It was pretty clear to anyone with the exception of Lily what path he was going down.
He was a death eater. What do you think he was there for if not to hurt and kill? Because I doubt Voldemort gave out dark marks like they were nothing without having them prove themselves multiple times. Just because it wasn’t written about, it doesn’t mean he never killed anyone else. I’d say it’s pretty much implied you’re going to have to repeatedly, by the ‘death eater’ title alone.
He told Voldemort about the prophecy, knowing a baby would be murdered. Then only did something about it because it was the baby of the girl he called mudblood a few years prior.
I could talk for days about the ruin Regulus stans have brought upon Lily Evans.
The only personality Lily was given, was that she was the loveliest, most kind woman some of the wizarding world ever had the pleasure of knowing, she was a fantastic mother, and she and her husband were 100% head over heels for each other. That is literally it. Then here comes Jegulus shippers to rip that all away to make her either a hateful repugnant bitch, or a baby oven for their Harry Potter-Black delusion. FOR SOMEONE WHO CANONICALLY WANTED HER DEAD. But hey, at least the canon blood-supremacist muggleborn murderer and the complete opposite freedom fighter for muggleborns give the fandom one more gay couple for representation right? Who cares if the deep rooted misogyny within it took us two steps backwards? ☺️
Jegulily is worse than Jegulus, Regulus was canonically a blood supremacist, he believed and carried out Voldemort’s views. His reason for deflecting is even worse. It wasn’t the countless muggleborn and halfblood witches and wizards being brutally murdered in their homes, on the streets etc etc, no no it was because he was personally affected by the life of his ugly little blood supremacist house-elf being threatened by Voldemort. Jegulus/jegulilys can turn Regulus into some soft little emo boy who didn’t know that killing innocent ppl was wrong 😇 but it won’t change the fact that in canon he was a hateful bastard prick who deserved to experience the same painful end others most likely experienced under his wand as a death eater. Oppressor x oppressed will always be gross.
I'm really tired of marauder stans saying that Severus was obsessed with Lily, when James Potter literally couldn't take no for an answer and even tried to blackmail her.
Okay, but I like that my husband is obsessed with me. I don’t want a friend who liked me in elementary school who I have repeatedly told I don’t see in that way still being obsessed with me.
Being an asshole in trying your luck once at 15 years old and two years later the girl makes her own decision, eventually starts liking you, marries you and has your baby >
hanging out with people that want your friend dead
getting mad when you create a spell that can’t reasonably be for anything else except torment and it’s used against you
calling your ‘best friend’ a mudblood for trying to help you, apologising for calling her a mudblood giving the whole “you’re not like the others” spiel and not apologising for countless others (maybe first years he seems to like that) you called the same thing
joining a hate group after this apology that wants everyone outside them dead
basically telling the leader he needs to kill a baby
not caring about the baby dying until finding out who said baby is and begging an old man to protect the mother and only her still not caring whether the baby dies
turning a double agent because the girl is under threat like she wasn’t already under threat when you joined the group that wanted to kill her
her dying then you hitting, belittling and ABUSING her son after he already got starved and beaten at home because he looks like his dad under the shitty excuse of being a spy
all the other crap
dying for ‘love’ showing everyone you protected her son all along like you didn’t treat her like dog shit, bully her 11 year old child, bully her friends children, etc etc then help them out 5% of the time like it wasn’t your job as a teacher
I could talk for days about the ruin Regulus stans have brought upon Lily Evans.
The only personality Lily was given, was that she was the loveliest, most kind woman some of the wizarding world ever had the pleasure of knowing, she was a fantastic mother, and she and her husband were 100% head over heels for each other. That is literally it. Then here comes Jegulus shippers to rip that all away to make her either a hateful repugnant bitch, or a baby oven for their Harry Potter-Black delusion. FOR SOMEONE WHO CANONICALLY WANTED HER DEAD. But hey, at least the canon blood-supremacist muggleborn murderer and the complete opposite freedom fighter for muggleborns give the fandom one more gay couple for representation right? Who cares if the deep rooted misogyny within it took us two steps backwards? ☺️
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