Since the Stranger Things season 5 finale and season as a whole, left many fans disappointed... Ive come up with a rather large list of reasons why. This list includes, plot holes, lack of character development, character assassinations, and just general questions we never got answered. These are just the things I have though of (without rewatching the series because that is going to hurt too much.)
1. Why was Will specifically taken? Not the he was weak excuse, my boy loaded a rifle in 3 seconds and fought for his life for a week
2. How and WHY did Hawkins lab have a perfect replica of Wills body, especially after him being missing 3 days???
3. Who truly unlocked the door to Wills house? Vecna from the abyss??
4. Why keep Will alive, but everyone else is demogorgan food. Was it just bored of looking for Will??
5. Why have El originally die in season 1, yet, the entire series was planned out before hand??
6. The whole government NDA everyone went through after season 1 did we just not care about how that affects the characters...?
7. Why have El spy on "Russia" but it's actually sending her to look for Henry?
8. How the fuck did Brenner survive the demogorgan with not a scratch?
9. Crazy together being planned?? And nothing coming of it?
10. "Im the only one who cares about Will" literally Lucas was LOCKED IN looking for him.
11. Special friendship???? Where
12. Why have Will build the tunnels to infect Hawkins when the end game was to merge the Abyss with Hawkins???
13. Why possess Will, have Mind flayer particles inside him, and he not get immediate powers like Henry did?
14. Why Mike always the one initiating contact and giving the sweetest lines to Will, only for seasons 3-5 to happen
15. Something about cheif Hopper saying the worst thing in Hawkins was a bird attacking someone.... when the whole Henry "murder house" was public information
16. What was the purpose of Will being possessed, surely it wasn't just to build pointless tunnels, to infect the world, only for that to not be the big endgame?
17. Where the hell did Lonnie and the bullies go
18. Lonnie was literally trying to monetize his son's death? Are we never going to bring that up again??
19. Why does Joyce keep her divorced husbands name...?
20. The lost sister is still a very pointless episode. More later.
21. Phineas gage mention in science with parallels to Will... to show he was possessed??? The eye imagery?
22. Dustin being irrelevant to Mike and Lucas in season 3 because theyre too obsessed with their girlfriends
23. Karen being a potential child predator. Billy was a minor. He was a HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. She was going to meet up with a minor.
24. Why Russia is in Hawkins?
25. Theres no explanation as to why they know about the gates/ Hawkins?
26. Why did Vecna try to steal El's powers if he wanted her to join him
27. We are building it for you. What the body of the mind flayer??? To steal Els powers...or to kill her... or convince her to join him?
28. The flesh flayer was the mind flayer, but vecna was also the mind flayer so was it vecna or the mind flayer in control for season 3?
29. How did the mind flayer/vecna come up with the plan to build a body of melted people and rats, especially since it needs a host, yes Billy is A host, but how is it able to survive in the giant human soup goop?
30. Did nobody discover the massive underground lab after the mall fire? That seems like a pretty big scandal for a small town. But I guess it's Hawkins. Nothing ever happens
31. Why have Mike struggle to say I love you from season 3 on.
32. Why wasn't the government/the lab closely monitoring Hawkins after season 1 happened? You'd think if theyre so hell bent on tracking El down, even if they thought she died, then a little kid being possessed, and a large amount of lab people being dead? Now we have Russia in Hawkins, and nobody saw them transporting any equipment? Or questioning why the mall took so long to build
33. The mall never being mentioned before seaon 3. Thats a big project, Ted wheeler must've commented on it alot. Tax payers money and all and we know how much Ted loves things out of the ordinary
34. The mind flayers body was still in the mall after it was cut off from the gate right. Mind flayer was still in Billy's deceased body
35. How did the particles not reactivate when the first gate opens in season 4? Thats what happend the previous season
36. The government knowing about El in season 4 and actively looking for her while she's in California...no mention of it in season 2-3 when she's actually being careful and locked away in Hoppers cabin, but theyre able to track her when she gets arrested. Literal states away from where she would've been easier to track
37. Did Owen's just erase the fact El got arrested?
38. The girl who was raised in a lab, had to be taught how to talk, spell, live, is now in High school? She should be held back multiple grade
39. If Joice homeschooling El is how she was able to attend school, how'd she get so smart in what, 3 months???? Assuming they started in Lenoras high-school when they moved in October
40. Why move at all if we're right back in Hawkins, no questions asked.
41. California plot being completely irrelevant
42. Did Argyle not have parents? Their son was missing for days, after a neighbourhood he was delivering pizza to got shot up.
43. Johnathon/ Joyce car not running and now it's in Hawkins season 5? Did they go back to California to get and repair it?
44. Nobody going to mention Johnathon, Mike, and Wills trauma of being shot at???? In their own home??
45. Speaking of Mike and trauma, my boy is clearly suicidal but no one mentions him jumping off a literal cliff after seeing Wills body to "save Dustin's baby teeth"
46. "I think it would be better if we're a team, friends... best friends" where???
47. The airport hug
48. El not knowing what Will was painting still.... thinking it's for a girl....
49. Military assume Vecnas killing is El because El is the only person we see have powers....is that why they tracked Kali? Did they think she was responsible? Is that why she was captured and then they realized she wasn't behind the killings and moved on to assuming it's El?
50. What happened to Angela, after? Her parents wanted El to face punishment, and they would have to have learned El escaped, right? Right??
51. Im sorry Suzie, you were used for a genius brain, and never spoken about again. I hope you, and your crazy family are doing well, thanks for the help Locating El.... Who you still think is Americantendo
52. Nobody bats an eye at burying a dead body, other than Argyle...
53. Speaking of dead bodies, what happened to the demodog that Steve and Dustin put in Joyce's fridge.
54. Literally, the entire story line and California characters plot lines and build ups being completely pointless after season 5
55. The Van scene took 12 hours to shoot? 12 hours??? To get perfect. To be more subtle. We don't get the see Mike's POV of it. Or what his thoughts are
56. Mike accepts the painting as being from El. Who told him she didnt know what the painting was. She thought it was for someone he liked....
57. Your best friend is sobbing right beside you, In a tiny van and you can't hear him??? Or see him??? Give your best friend a damn hug already
58. El suddenly being able to revive people.
59. What was the point of Eddie's character....? To give Dustin a grieving arc? To show how important Steve was to Dustin? We know, you didnt need to prove that Steve was Dustin's best friend
60. What was the point of the 4 sacrifices and going into the trauma of people to open the rifts? Since invading Hawkins wasn't the end plan??
61. No one questions the glowing red rifts, accepting that it's an earthquake. Bet.
62. Wayne Manson being told his nephew fought an earthquake to protect his town...? We know it's not an earthquake, he doesn't.
63. MIKES ENTIRE MONOLOGUE
64. The entire cast treating mileven like a joke (it is, what was their writing this season)
65. Max being targeted because she lost Billy, literally all these characters are so traumatized and we choose max because she felt guilty her step brother who tried to kill her friends by running them over, was implied to be abusive towards her, was openly racist to her boyfriend.... died. She was glad, everyone who didnt thirst over Billy was glad he got dead. He was a terrible human.
66. Neil just up and left after the death of his son.... whom he abused and made responsible for his younger step sister. OK
67. Where is Max's mom after the rifts open. Your daughter is in a coma?
68. Why vecna in the creel house in the upside down when He could've done it all from the abyss? He has the same set up with the vines and shit? Was he too weak to reach before? Like what
69. Why is the upside down stuck on Noverver 6th 1983. I get it's a wormhole, but Hawkins time keeps moving...? Shouldn't the upside down flow with Hawkins
70. You're telling me, by making contact with a demogorgan, at the age of 12, El created a wormhole?
71. The Byers are living with the Wheelers. Does Joyce have a job here again??? Otherwise why would Joyce tell Karen she's running late and can't help clean after breakfast.
72. Are they staying there rent free??? What purpose does this serve other than Byler hope? Its been 18 months???
73. Holly being relevant. Sure she's been closer to the supernatural than anyone else in the wheeler house, but why Holly when there's 73 other kids in Hawkins
74. Why any of these kids taken to be honest. They dont have trauma (from what we see) like the 4 sacrifices of season 4 have
75. Why 12 kids. Why clock symbolism starting from episode 1. What purpose did that serve if no timetravel
76. Theoretically, shouldn't the collapse of a worm hole result in time travel? Or something cool happening other than the library wall Turing back into a destroyed library
77. How did we discover Will could only siphon powers from Vecna when they are, infact, not innate. We just roll with that explanation? Will was possessed by the mind flayer, the first shadow explains Henry got his powers from mind flayer particles after being in dimension X for 12 hours. Will had been possessed for days. He should have the same, if not, be more powerful than Henry
78. Did we just forget Joyce was a main character? The whole series started because she had an insane theory her son was alive and talking through the lights, has these insane theories the entire series and then the last season, she's just, over protective of her (favourite and apparently only) son
79. Johnathon is Joyce kid too. But he gets to go on the potentially dangerous missions in place of Will who wants to help, and helped build the device used to locate Hopper
80. Are Mike and Eleven broken up??? Their interactions are so lacking. Whats going on
81. What signals did Will get to give him so much hope???? What happened to go from using his love to help further mileven, to openly flirting and looking for signals??
82. Robin and Vickie being developed off screen and having 3? Scenes together with little information how it came to be.
83. Was Vickie introduced only so Robin could see her and find out the nurses slack off? Only so they can steal benzo to drug and kidnap an entire family?
84. Lucas was at the hospital often, he could've also noticed this?
85. The only other purpose of Robin and Vickie being together is so Will could see them together.
86. Robin and Wills entire friendship and acceptance arc being for what....? Signals the avalanche talk, how she and Vickie started getting together. All that build up to go nowhere? Nowhere at all????
87. Mike giving Will all the signals for 5 seasons, and every single of them in their next scene together. Why
88. The entirety of the cursed shadow play
89. We know the adults went to school with Henry Creel.... did they forget??? Why show us if none of them have that epiphany. What point does it serve
90. Mike and Will parallels to Henry and Patty
91. Mike and Will parallels to every relationship?
92. Why did Will need to be revived after the tubes were in him, but Holly just vomits and is fine
93. Why show us the first 5 minutes and Wills time in the upside down? Was it only to show us that the kids are getting the same treatment?
94. If the mind flayers hearts beating, vecna and mind played needing each other, and the kids being used as life..? Why are the tubes pumping shit into them instead of extracting their life force?
95. What was the goal after merging the abyss and Hawkins? To let the mindflayer consume? Henry states he wants to create something beautiful? What was it?
96. Max being able to see
97. Karen 2 days after almost dying, being able to talk, go through an entire hospital to the basement, to quietly load a dryer and save the day?
98. Ted is just in a medically induced coma I guess..... despite being the less injured one
99. Mike having no reaction to his parents being on their death beds (or what should be their death beds), his little sister being abducted, and his older sister breaking down
100. Where are all the demo creatures?
101. The upside down is a hive mind, you step on a vine, you alert vecna, and all the other creatures, yet we step on multiple vines and nothing? Where are the inhabitants. Do they live in the abyss when they're not chasing after Will? The abyss is empty too?
102. Nobody remembering Wills birthday, how old he is, or any basic information we've only ever been given on him. Henry and Will sharing a birthday
103. Kali helping with 1 scene, hiding the kids in vecnas mind, and 1 implied scene? Where she fakes Els death (up to interpretation) what was the point of bringing her back
104. Is Derek's family still tied up in the barn?
105. Did someone discover medication missing from the hospital, or did the turnbows escape and report they were kidnapped??? What happened to involve the military to collect Robin, what proof did they have it was Robin??? She wasn't taking it from her fake grannies room that would have given her away?
106.the crawls. We missed 36 crawls. Thats a lot lf information (or lack of?) How'd they come up with them.
107. Did they map out every tunnel Will made? Or did he just draw them from memory? They just have a convenient lay out of tunnels expanding the entire town of Hawkins that is accurate to their map of Hawkins
108. Hellfire being not seen as a cult in the epilog. Did they also prove Eddie's innocent?
109. What happened after the government scene? They see El die and decided not to take in the group for questions, or arrest them? Or literally anything
110. The entire Russia plot
111. Why does Russia have creatures from the upsidedown
112. Did we forget about the pregnant ladies in the lab? How long ago did Kali try to escape?? Are the pregnant women still there when they blow up the wormhole?? Hello?
113. Mike and will colour theory
114. Mike being a useless wet sponge, has entire character arc destroyed, and still can't say I love you to El when she's killing herself
115. The most traumatized characters deserve nothing good in their life apparently
116. The 2 girls raised in a lab, being abused, manipulated, exploited, hunted, and having no childhood, both die and dont get to live normal lives..
117. How did Kali escape the lab the first time?
118. How was Kali found if she can cause all these illusions.... sure they snuck up on her is the easiest answer, ambushed and killed her friends, and she what, just watched...?
119. Kali escaping after having blood drawn, who knows how much for how long. That girl should be passing out after taking a step
120. Did she fake her death to escape the second time? How?
121. What was that flesh pile Dr. Kay was working on and the one that was in the glass? Only there to strangle Hopper...? Why was she working on it and saying she is stuck and needs the girl
122. How is Dr. Brenners journal in the lab with information surrounding the exotic matter, which must be written after observing said exotic matter, if the upside down is in November 6 1983.
123. Why is the roof melting the first time when we see the dead people. Was Brenner poking and prodding at it?? Did Brenner stabilize it?
124. What is the sheild around the exotic matter. Was it just there when the upside down was created? Or did the lab make it??
125. The exotic matter that Nancy shot disrupts matter, making the walls melt, rapidly, and it just, fixes itself?
126. Nancy and Johnathon being trapped in the wall goop. Magically becoming clean, having the worst break up scene to the point the writers had to CONFIRM they broke up instead of getting engaged
127. Steve and Johns macho man show down if Steve isn't interested?
128. Will being so scared by what vecna showed him (that we dont see) that he forces himself to come out to a large group of people, saying he doesn't want it to be used against him in the final battle.....
129. Melvalds being a general store, I grew up in the 2000's, but im pretty sure general stores dont sell milk shakes.... but they would've in the 50’s
130. Will loves getting lost in the woods...?
131. Ad placement in a coming out scene. Nice
132. Will having a literal panic attack while coming out, and everyone saying "you won't lose me, or me, or me" why does Steve have more of a reaction than His best friends
133. Did Mike take Will literally when he said everyone needed to hear it? Because why was there so many people there. Why have characters Will have never met be there?
134. How did the kids wake up. Shouldn't they be stuck in Henry's mind after he dies? Did Holly give them all a max type speech and they just escape
135. What was the point of taking all the kids if Henry gets strong with each kill? He didnt kill them? Kidnapped them because theyre weak? But why would you want weak people to help merge worlds? Because theyre easy to influence?
136. The children ages 8-10 standing there watching Joyce chop Henry's head off. At least have one of the older kids tell them not to look
137. Hopper shooting El and she's jumping dimensions 1 minute later. Excuse me?
138. What happened to Chester, the Byers dog? My boy Will was run ing for his life and still had time to pet his doggie. And hes just gone next season? No mention?
139. The for Will mix tape?
140. The painting lie being adressed
141. Everyone is chill with Hopper suddenly being alive
142. Mr. Clarke not having a reaction to the supernatural plot. He just rolls with it?
143. Vickie just chilling with max because they needed to do something with her i guess
144. Hopper is police chief again... what happened to Callahan? Or whatever his name was? Did he step down as soon as he saw Hopper return.... or?
145. This season didnt need to exist and the story would make more sense if it didnt
146. The ending being confirmed to not be a campaign but Mike apparently telling a story, their story? As a game? Was it truly really or was Mike just writing it
147. Is El alive and Mike took 18 months to come up with that theory, or is he just grieving the girl he lost who he no emotions to until she was about to kill herself. Is he trying to rationalize? Cope? Ambiguous ends are stupid and hurt my head
148. If she didnt die, with the hedgehogs running, how did she pull Mike into her mindscape?
149. Mike queer coding? Having his father thrown through his closet? The one way sign pointing to the closet?
150. The pocket of Mike's jacket always pointing to Will. The CUSTOM MADE JACKET
151. Karen knows about demodogs now. Thats cool I guess? Does Mike, Nancy, and now Holly, explain things...?
152. No stakes this season. Only Els possible sacrifice we all predicted happening
153. Couldn't even commit to killing off Ted
154. They really just magically fix Hoppers cabin AND build a sensory deprivation tank for it to be used once? I thought El was looking for Henry in the bath while Hopper was doing his crawls? What do you mean it finally gets some use
155. Mike "i dont want to have any regrets" wheeler, doing nothing? Not telling the girl (you're in a relationship with? Seriously, were they actually still together or heat of the moment kiss) you love her, not telling your family anything, not being their for your "best friend" who we've been told you have a special friendship with. Reacting to Dustin's grief? Your own grief for Eddie? Support for Lucas? He ended up becoming his father
156. Finn and Noah having to do chemistry readings
157. Was Henry really just going to help El escaped the lab in season 4 and that be that? Why. She wanted him to come with her. Thats the reason all of this happened. Was it just manipulation? Like just banking on an 8 year old who clearly has trust issues to have enough empathy to free him of the soteria
158. Soteria in general
159. The sonic the hedgehog devices. How were they created? Was Kali the test subject or did they have them built before she was captured
160. Did Mike and Eleven talk about Kali? I dont remember it happening. Does he know she was killed?
161. Hopper not having a reaction to losing another daughter
162. Will not feeling any of the final battle, but feels a bullet go through Henrys hand via memories
163. Will saying he feels he was never truly severed from the Hive mind, yet no particles vomiting from him like the children showing theyre no longer apart of it
164. Max, c- in physics, 18 months in a coma, probably more months in physical therapy, graduating with the boys
165. Lovers lake being completely drained of water but the bath is fine
166. Maxs letters
167. How did El recognize Will from a photo
168. WHERE IS MAXS MOM
169. El max reunion? I dont know her
170. Max and will being bestie despite never having a 1 on 1 conversation, literally the most emotional reunion after Lucas
171. How's Lucas doing after that nasty gash and then having to carry max through a hospital with her and clothing constantly irritating it
172. You're telling me Dustin was grieving for almost 3 years at this point, and his grades never suffered, leaving him as valedictorian... that shit is through all your years of high school (or it was for mine) and suzie had to change his grades? So cheating works i guess
173. Everyone forget they think hellfire is a satanic cult? Or was that solved off screen too?
174. So Jimmy fast hands came back to Hawkins? Why? Did everyone else who vacated come back?
175. Noah begging for Mike and Will interactions only for them to give us Friends? No. Best friends
176. Noah having the most scenes with Finn????
177. Finn and Noah filming before everyone else???
178. The SWQK radio station giving hints about basements and stuff
179. Mike having no reaction to Eddie's death at all..... like at all
180. Why Robin thinks g us to look for signals for them to start as a snowball and turn into an avalanche if no avalanche
181. How DID Will talk through the lights?
182. How did Will survive for so long when military people with better weapons couldn't. It took a week for him to be captured
183. The backpack in the tree? We all thought that was going to be important
184. Mike having the painting in the end. Does he even know it's from Will? As a sign of Wills love???
185. The Hive mind dies, so will Will from season 2
186. Mwtfdydgate
186. What happened to Murray after the battle? He just go back to his bunker and make more conspiracy theories or being a PI or whatever he originally was
187. Mike wheeler being homophobic and a terrible boyfriend for 3 seasons then.
188. Is that the same ring Johnathon was going to use on Nancy?
189. Lucas my beloved ❤️ you are more than just somebodies boyfriend. Your feelings are valid, your concern for your friends are valid.
190. Dustin my beloved, Im sorry your grief is being brushed aside by your friends who dont understand.
191. Will "im not going to fall in love" im sorry my son
192. Mike wheeler character assassination.... they could've redeemed you if we just saw into your mind and got new context for how you were acting from seasons 3-4 and now 5
193. Why did Kali have different powers
194. Why was El most likely one
195. Mike never understood El, but Will did. I would have loved El interactions with her siblings
196. Why do we only see El interact with Hopper, Kali, and Mike this season. We were robbed of El with the rest if her found family
197. Shouldn't One dying sever him from the Hive mind? He should also get the mind flayer particles leaving him