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Before I leave for another few months if anyone is at all interested I write Andy/Mark (from Ride obvs) on Ao3
https://archiveofourown.org/users/lannoypoint/works?fandom_id=11982046
gracias
i am always lowkey fascinated by andy and noel’s dynamic like it’s so interesting and chewy to me in the sense that ……. they have know each other for over three decades and yet their interactions feel so much fewer compared to other dynamics of oasis. like yes andy+liam is cute and he adores&admires liam so and the way he speaks of and compliments him really makes me go !!!!! and i like the andy+gem friendship as well they have been through a lot together. as for andy and noel like for one there are far far far fewer pictures of them in comparison and they seem to reference each other / interact far less but the ones we do know are quite interesting. to me.
andy’s more on liam’s side when oasis broke and has spoken in an interview about noel telling lies about it, and noel has complained about andy not doing anything to break up the fight, etc, but i also would not really say their dynamic is antagonistic, more like ….. they just don’t seem close. (well, there is the story of noel borrowing andy’s guitar for a tour and how it came back broken or something which is kind of 👀👀). And also they have a picture at Glastonbury (around 2014 and 2015 i think…. i forgot the year) shaking hands. i think it's the general lack of drama that is interesting to me because there is so much drama surrounding oasis so many intense feelings and emotions, and then we have them who have known each other for so long and neither very antagonistic not super friendly or close and just feel more like ….. colleagues.
and it gets more interesting when we take ride into consideration….. ride's split was fairly explosive and andy and mark were barely speaking to each other at final album (pre-breakup) and had a lot of arguments …… considering how he’s usually staying out of liam and noel’s fights and how the kind of fights they were having regularly felt like the kind that could break up ride …… would love to know what he thinks of it all considering he and mark’s history …… (i have also seen some people say that they might have call quits on the band to maintain/save their friendship. so many disagreements on the music aspects that if they kept going they might end up not being able to be friends either, kind of thing.) just, andy reflecting on his on role in ride and then observing noel’s role in oasis….. there’s a lot to think about ……
As someone whose Roman Empire is Noel and Andy’s relationship I have a lot of thoughts lmaooo
To me they always had a casual professional relationship. Andy was definitley more on Liam’s side when Oasis split and Liam was the one who suggested Andy when looking for a bassist to join even though Andy never played bass. Noel I think was most likely bitter about that since what he said about Andy and the others not interfering in their fights. I believe Andy stayed out of them because of what had happened with him and Mark with Ride. Andy had also said some things about Noel misrepresenting stuff a few years after the split as well. Also I found this but imma blame it on the cocaine cause Noel had said good things of Ride before.
Noel had been better friends with Gem and hung out more with him, also with Gem eventually joining the High Flying Birds.
Obviously both Noel and Andy matured especially since that picture of them shaking hands in 2015 (which was at Shaky Knees Festival). Noel was doing his thing with the HFB and Andy back with Ride. And I’m sure Andy reuniting with Mark helped in being friendly with Noel like that again. So they started to say nice things about each other again. Like two years later Andy had wished Noel happy birthday on Instagram specifically on his 50th posting a pic of both of them. It was also so amazing when Ride opened for Noel’s HFB during that one show in 2023, it made me so happy for them 😭😭 (anyone who went to that show was the luckiest in the worldddd)
I had so desperately wished we had seen more of them together during the Oasis reunion tour as I love both Noel and Andy so much (maybe will get some in the documentary) but I think that’s just how they are toward each other, that casual professional thing. Out of the whole Oasis thing Andy and Gem were the ones who actually formed a strong friendship as they hung out outside of the band and Gem worked with Andy on his solo music.
Mark Gardener, frontman of Ride
1992
Damon Albarn and Mark Gardener 1991
The way that Slave by Ride is just like Falling Down by Oasis (lyrically speaking as sadly Slave wasn’t even on the original Tarantula album when it’s actually the best song from that era 💀) Them both being about knowing their band is coming to an end.
And like Slave being one of the two songs Mark wrote for Tarantula cause him and Andy had already been disagreeing about the band’s direction since Carnival of Light
✨✨✨A Men called Stars✨✨✨
liam and noel holding hands and hugging same old same old
BUT HOW ABOUT NOEL DELIBERATELY BUMPING ANDY'S SHOULDER
Andy is so NANA-character shapped 🎸❤
Andy Bell on MTV 120 Minutes in 1994
Happy (belated) Birthday Andy Bell! Drew him in Ride’s music video for the song Today