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Sugar bowl facts
After couple of years sugaring this is what I’ve observed regarding SD/SB sites
-what I’ve recently read and which is 100% accurate, anyone worth of knowing won’t be in such sites. Full. Stop.
-most of men that have profiles are in best case upper middle class guys. You won’t find a multimillionaire sitting behind his computer chasing girls online. Would you? I wouldn’t. Reality is all of true rich men have access to upscale bars, clubs, restaurants, country clubs, lounges where they can meet dozens of beautiful women, DAILY. In worst case he will book a girl trough established agency (his assistant will) if he is more of an introvert or has no time for socializing.
-top income on these site is NOT above 200k after taxes. And majority of those men are MARRIED, which means his wife has access to his cards/accounts and has knowledge of his financial behavior, do you think she won’t be suspicious if all of a sudden large amounts start missing from his account? Of course she will. Other are divorced with couple of kids, which means ALIMONY. So don’t expect mind blowing amounts spent on you.
-if he offers out of the blue 10k + apartment + car, most likely it is a SCAM. In order a man to be eligible for such spending on someone else his income should be at least 700-800k after taxes. In average, a man won’t spend more than 20% of his income on you. How do y'all think a man who earns 200k-300k will just drop half of his money on you? He also has daily/monthly/yearly expenses of his own. He’ll just go broke because of you? NO. Be realistic.
-there probably is one who is able to spend such amounts on you as mentioned above but finding him on these sites would be a pure luck. Like jackpot once in a blue moon.
-if he doesn’t discuss your allowance and what exactly he can offer in first few messages, he is probably not a legitimate SD, or just a Splenda most likely salt. A real SD knows the game. Don’t fall for that “make me a proposal/offer”. That’s BS.
-if he only offers to communicate via Skype he is almost sure a SCAM. Never settle for this type of communication, either he can video call via Viber or FaceTime. Say you don’t use Skype. Not negotiable.
-if he isn’t ready to provide his photos in first few exchanged texts, DROP him. There is no valid excuse for this. Unless he is on Forbes 100. Or running a Fortune 500 company. Which isn’t close to impossible. Always choose video call over exchanging photos. (What i recently witnessed was a man who sent me photos of a dead US businessman, he probably thought if we are from Europe I won’t know this) -luckily there is google image search
-ALWAYS and I repeat always try with google reverse image search. Also look up his number.
-if he refuses to tell you his full name there is a good reason behind it, a BAD one. Leave him.
-Under NO circumstances negotiate the sexual part of an arrangement, he exactly knows what he will be getting. You get the “dos and donts ” question, block him, real SD never asks such questions over the phone.
-make sure you discuss about his stated budget. Ask if those are his spending habits or he would be actually willing to spend that on you. Does that include only your allowance or it includes all of the monthly expenses he would have regarding you (e.g. Trips, dinners, gifts, shopping sprees etc)
-don’t be shy to ask anything you want to know prior to your meet, if you have any doubts or unclear stuff, ASK.
-if you are traveling/flying out to meet him make sure all of your transportation/flight tickets/hotel room is paid in full, IN ADVANCE, with email confirmation of the receipts which are NON REFUNDABLE. He can always cancel your hotel booking for example.
-if he asks you to fly out but to buy your own tickets and he’ll reimburse you when you meet, NEVER do this!!! Real SD would never ever propose such situation, or he will send you money prior to your meet so you can purchase it, if he doesn’t want it to be shown on his credit card.
-always bring your own money to a pot date, no matter if it’s just a coffee date or dinner or flying over to other city/country. Remember, he can walk out on you any time and leave you out to dry. Imagine if you don’t like him really and need to for example take another room, take your ticket earlier, take a taxi home etc, possibilities are endless. Make sure you are SAFE regarding funds.
-NEVER send more than 4 photos (2 showing your face and upper body and two showing your body from different angles/poses) any of these men asking for more are pic collectors. Whenever you can choose a video call over exchanging photos.
-if you meet him and he looks different than his photos LEAVE immediately. EVACUATE. Code RED. You think he is providing something substantial if he can’t even provide a proper photo of himself? NO.
-Never ever agree to unprotected sex. No excuses are valid enough. Even though you are in a long term arrangement he probably is seeing other women too. Unless he’ll provide you a STD check (HIV, HPV, HEP a, b, c too) not older than 48h prior to your rendezvous, from a clinic you personally chose. Medical checks, reports can be forged.
-make sure that you first get your end before giving him his part of the bargain. FIRST THE MONEY THEN THE HONEY. No peep shows, no trial periods, no compatibility checks. You see a meal you never tried in a restaurant, decided to order from the menu, you didn’t really like it, yet you still have to pay for it? YES.
-Do not fall for the first man that texts you, sugaring REQUIRES patience and practice.
-Do not settle for exclusivity unless all of your monthly expenses are fully covered plus there is spending money left, and enough for at least a month if he drops you out of the blue. Don’t think you will ever be his one and only.
-When he says NO DRAMA in his profile text that means no drama from you, not from him. No PROs or ESCORTs means he can’t afford one or he can’t afford to be screened, because he has something to hide - something BAD.
-if he is not able to meet in few days after your initial conversation he is most likely a TIME WASTER, or if he books you a ticket and not confirm two three days before the actual meet do not go, unless you want a free trip and have an interest of your own visiting that place.
-if he offers less than a 5* hotel accommodation, drop that cheap ass, he probably is just a SALT.
-when he states most important things for him are connection and affection he has no intention of compensating for your time.
-there is no UPPER age limits for being a sugar baby, you think he wouldn’t date J-Lo ? Yes he would but he can’t afford it! When guy says he prefers very young girls it’s because he knows they are easier to trick and have lack of experience.
-REMEMBER: if something is too good to be true it’s because it usually is. Don’t fall for words, SEEING is BELIEVING.
-if he somehow gets uncomfortable when getting a bill in the restaurant or makes comments on prices or starts making a face, never see him again, no real SD will make a comment over couple of bucks. If possible, check how much he tipped the waiter.
-if he says along the way he isn’t into luxury and prefers something more humble/down to earth, leave that mofo, YOU ARE a LUXURY.
-if he is too demanding compared to what he is providing, he is actually using you, do not fall for that (ask for way to many photos/text exchange etc)
Always keep this small reminder in your head.
Happy sugaring!!!
um so tonight was successful….. shameless money shot
where did this all go lololol
I think lavishjasminej is based in Toronto!
right, I think I have spoken to her before!! thanks :)
From a SB/SW perspective, do you think it's possible to manage time around full time vanilla job, single mom, as well as some sort of SW? Is there enough days in a week lol ?
I honestly think it depends entirely on your energy/stamina levels and what you feel you can handle in a week while still remaining sane!! I know personally that I can handle like two things at once and then I get overwhelmed, but that’s just me. There’s no harm in easing into sex work as well; just take it one day a week, maybe an evening on the weekend? If you have your child(ren) full time obviously this is more of a challenge unless you have solid childcare, but I totally think it’s doable to make it a sort of side income. And if you’re looking to leave your vanilla job, you can do SW for a while, save as much as possible, and eventually transition into it as your full-time job if that’s what you’re hoping to do. But bottom line never rely on it entirely: always have savings. I don’t think it’s sustainable long-term (personally), you’re always going to want to take time off here and there. And I think it’s important to save so you’re able to take time off even if you don’t feel you desperately need it. I believe it’s important to not let it take over your life.
this post probably won’t be effective but your girl has been on a hiatus for like six fuckin months and i’m wondering if anyone is escorting/doing any kind of sex work rn in toronto who follows me & could shoot me a message? i’d like to talk with someone & figure out where things are at right now & maybe get some agency info!! I just really want to speak with someone in the industry to reorient myself if anyone has the time :)
sometimes art manifests itself in unlikely places
i know i never post anymore but i've got to rant. why are there so many shady people in this industry??? it feels like every ten seconds i run into someone i think is legit and they turn out to really not be and it's a pain in the ass. why are sex workers not consistently supportive of one another??? it doesn't benefit you to be a terrible person. ALSO i'm not making any money right now and it is the worst feeling in the world dear god i hate this like i'm advertising in may places i've put a lot into it and i get zero return i don't want to go back to doing a vanilla job i just can't it doesn't work for me i barely have the energy to do this let alone work like 10-15 hours a week plus school kill me
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Someone please help me understand this
What do people get out of pretending to be a sugar baby? Because honestly if pretend sugar babies spent as much time actively being/becoming a sugar baby as they do pretending then they wouldn’t have to spend any time pretending to be one. This is not a competition or a popularity contest as we are no longer in high school. Do you and quit trying to entertain on here because I’m 1000% sure that’s not going to pay your bills.
Moving on to platonic sugar babies. I’m not saying it’s impossible and true platonic sugar babies, keep doing your thing. However, the reality is that it’s super rare to find a man who is willing to pay someone JUST to hang out with them without any expectation of sex.
If you’re new to the bowl, learn not to believe everything you read or see on here. This lifestyle has its perks but it’s not all glamorous. Like I said in an ask awhile back, focus on getting the allowance that allows you to live comfortably and just move forward from there. Don’t jump in the bowl expecting a 5k monthly allowance right off the bat. You *MAY* get lucky and it’s not impossible but be realistic and realize that not everyone hits the jackpot right away. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, just don’t allow these men to lowball you and focus on your grind. Don’t worry about what you’re getting in comparison to what another sugar baby is getting. It could be fabricated or it could be that they’ve been in the bowl for a minute. If your bills are getting paid then why concern yourself with how much another girl is bringing home? Do you boo.
this is the best advice i've seen on here for any girls who still follow me who sugar
if u think u can just win me over with some food and a puppy … ur damn right