Hey, I am Salamandel but you can call me whant ever you want. I use she/her pronounce but anything is fine. I make art so I might post some of it here, but for the most part I'm probably just going to be lurking around. Also I'm a minor so yea.
Fandoms
Pokemon
Nevermoor
House MD
Marvel
Legends of Zelda
That is the main ones I might have forgotten some but anyway
jupiter north writing letters to morrigan’s grandmother since he first learned of her existence and already being enamored by her kindness and intelligence and horrified by how badly she’s treated. jupiter realizing lady darling was never going to accept morrigan in time to save her from eventide and jupiter becoming her patron and illegally smuggling her into the free state anyway. jupiter raising morrigan in a loving place with people who care about her and find her amazing. jupiter constantly going on missions to try to find his sister, not just for himself but for his nephew. jupiter helping morrigan find her own family including his nephew. jupiter taking the blame when morrigan’s aunt tries to claim they didn’t know about her. jupiter baking two dozen apology cakes for morrigan. “i just wanted the world to be a softer place for you.” jupiter finally being told about ezra squall and the apprenticeship and taking it in stride and saying he wanted to meet him. “the dealbreaker doesn’t exist, mog.” uncle jove. “i love you too. obviously.” jupiter north ❤️
Artists and writers will be put together on Tumblr but if both of you would prefer to chat somewhere else, that is fine.
Artists will be sent all the fic summaries later and will (depending on how many there are) pick a top three or a top five or something so everyone gets paired up with something they're happy with :)
I think the funeral Jupiter refers to in his and Bertram's argument is Mr Smithereens' (as opposed to Rosie's) and here's why:
- The earliest Rosie's funeral could have been is five years ago (assuming it happened when Jupiter's search party was officially disbanded). As much as grudge holding would be very in line with what we've seen of Jupiter and Bertram so far, five years is a long time to hang onto Bertram not coming to that funeral.
- Bertram says "You sound just like..." after Jupiter says things about Bertram getting his life together. Maybe that could have been something Rosie went on about, but they would have been in their late twenties when Rosie disappeared. Not having your life together in your late twenties is a lot easier to wave aside than not having it together in your late thirties. But as Bertram's patron, Mr Smithereens' reputation was likely at least partially tied to Bertram's. If Bertram's life wasn't together, if he wasn't performing as a society member, it would reflect poorly on Mr Smithereens for bringing him into the Society.
- It would be a more personal betrayal in my eyes, than not coming to Rosie's funeral. At Rosie's funeral, Jupiter would have had the rest of Unit 895 to have his back. Even if Bertram wasn't there, there would be less reason for him to still be bitter about it. But if it was Mr Smithereens' funeral, Jupiter and Bertram shared a unique relationship with him that only they shared (even if he had other candidates, they wouldn't be the same age). Bertram not attending Mr Smithereens' funeral could mean that Jupiter was left to mourn alone, and Jupiter could also see it as a betrayal because Bertram took on Mr Smithereens' name, and then couldn't even be bothered to attend his funeral.
- It's not impossible that the loss is fairly recent. You could make the argument that if Jupiter lost his patron in the three years Morrigan has lived with him, we'd know because we would have seen him grieve, but would we really have? Part of Jupiter's job is to lie and conceal. It's very likely that he wouldn't have wanted to burden Morrigan and others with his feelings so he just hid the death. Disguised going to the funeral as some other reason for him to be called away.
So yeah. Feel free to tell me what you think or counter my theory with your own. I'd love to get into discussion
Aromantic Jupiter who celebrates literally every holiday except Valentines Day. When asked about it he just shrugs and says "It doesn't matter that much" and makes the heads of all the press explode
Since 2017: 15.9% (33)
Since 2018: 12.1% (25)
Since 2019: 21.3% (44)
Since 2020: 14% (29)
Since 2021: 11.6% (24)
Since 2022: 8.7% (18)
Since 2023: 7.2% (15)
Since 2024: 8.2% (17)
2025: 1% (2)
Favourite Nevermoor Character?:
N.B. This question was for one character only. In cases where multiple characters have been listed, the first has been taken and the other discarded. Sorry but it was going to mess up my percentages. Also. I had to hand count these ones and therefore please allow for a teeny tiny bit of human error. There was some doubt around an entry of ‘H. Swift’ since that could refer to three different characters. It has been counted as Hawthorne.
These have been copypasted verbatim. They do not reflect my own beliefs. Etc.
i do not get why people ship squrth
hope nobody in unit 919 gets together romantically because the lack of romantic stuff in the series is a bit part of why i feel so connected to the series (im aro and its very hard to find fantasy books without at least romantic subplots)
This fandom is small but very sweet. People are kind and respectful to each other. It is very refreshing after the larger fandoms (SW, HP, LOTR) which sadly have lots of trolls and haters.
i have heard fandoms can be quite toxic (luckily never met one which is) and it seems to me that (at least the discord) is not really toxic
Morrigan and Sqwall are related, other wundersmiths are still alive and held in type of comas at the wintersea Hq
Ezra isn't the biggest villain in the series (might not be that hot a take...).
Jupiter frustrates me to no end.
I really actively despise shipping Mog with anyone idk it just feels weird to me :(
Not really sure what counts as a hot take since the only thing I really see is memes in the fandom
Unit 919 besides the main trio are all opps
people feel greedy for content from the author and from people who create art/fic/anything, and you can't really state your opinion without getting 'called out'
while I see them as siblings, I don’t really mind Morrijack shippers. it’s definitely not my thing, but just because they have the same father figure (and many interpret them as sibling-like) doesn’t actually mean shipping them is “wrong.” not really a hot take anymore, but it used to be a huge point of contention to my memory
There's more of us than we all realise
I want 9 books but I think we will get 7 if we are lucky
I think all my takes are ice cold lol. I think the Baz 5 or whatever they’re called aren’t that bad, they just need better role models
I Think in Canon Morrigan Might be able to travel through time in the future or even better be able to communicate through the ghostly hours to different people. I say this because, the voice Morrigan hears in the alley during Hollowpox could be hers from the future after she has developed mastery over the wundrous arts.
And
That the Kindling does know about what happened to the wundersmiths but wanted to test morrigan since it also sees the black ice in her heart.
hot take: people mischaracterize my girl cadence so bad!! She's not an angry evil grump all the time! She brought Morrigan a wholeass puppy! Almost no one in-universe remembers she exists— cut her some slack!
honestly? i dont have any hot takes i love this fandom and the books are obviously FANTASTIC
We should see more dragon riding it’s really cool
I don't like Lambeth. I just don't trust her after learning she lied to everyone.
fandom has too many injokes which makes it hard for newcomers to feel welcome (esp if they're introverted). also, the discord server is a mess and needs to halve the amount of channels.
Squall is probably a good guy
Idk if this is a hot take - i actually dont really participate in this fandom - but i reckon its a more well constructed world/plot/series than HP’s. wish i couldve read this as a little girl. i wouldve been obsessed.
The Devereaux ladies school or wtv was not fake and it will become relevant in a later book
There's tway too much questionable content in the fandom
Maud Lowry is Morrigan's mother/related to Morrigan.
Where do they get Nevermoor get all their food? Buying all of it from outside isn't smart when it seems like all their neighbors don't like them and won't even admit that they exist.
I'm not sure if people actually want to see it, or if it's just good old fandom fun (I've read some pretty good Jupiter x Squall fics by people who definitely don't ship them lol), but a lot of people ship different members of Unit 919. My hot take is I want very little actual romantic relationships involving the Unit, if any at all. I'm here for the lore, action, and character dynamics, not really the romance, and I think it would take time away from other aspects of the series. Not every series needs to be heavy on the romance. That being said, I think a little Archthorne couldn't hurt.
I would've wished Nevermoor to be slightly fleshed out more in passing. Like because there would absolutely have to be an underwater section correct? For mermaids and sea creatures wunimals. Even if it was just a brief sentence that would be so cool! (Obviously there are still more books to come but yeah)
I feel like Jupiter is going to struggle far more with Morrigan's apprenticeship to Squall than the fandom currently thinks
People should be nicer about the author’s long COVID delays
taking this as an opportunity to share my overall theory for how the series will play out and end. warning this is A LOT OF TEXT (i'll put a tldr for u bc im not a masochist) (also ignore all of the plot holes :3)
i think squall will get a redemption arc, wunsoc isnt what it seems and is actually a controlling elitist society that bends the social, political, and cultural landscape of the free state to its own benefit, squall realized this, he and the other wundersmiths tried to revolt against them, but he was the only survivor and wunsoc painted him as the murderer to the free state and exiled him and erased the history of wundersmiths for their own gain. the society now wants morrigan to become their tool and vessel to make them stronger (possibly even use her to take over the republic). the republic though also isnt innocent (wunsoc in my pov might be the lesser of two evils). squall is exiled into what is now the republic, but each state had previously been separate nations. squall meets some military dictator (not maud bc this was too long ago), who promises him that if he helps them take over the other countries and form the republic, then they will give him somewhere where wundersmiths can learn their magic in peace and without being used as weapons. he has to accept, because otherwise the history of wundersmiths would be lost as he would be on his own and the reborn wundersmith souls wouldnt know their truth. dictator gains power over the newly formed republic, squall wants to find other wundersmiths but dictator says no bc they still need him as a tool. fast forward present day republic wants to take over the free state, and the free state wants to take over the republic. mog realizes that neither are good, doesnt trust anyone, her own unit feels foreign (except cadence and hawthorne who are by her side no matter what), she has no idea what jupiter's stance would be, she somewhat believes what squall tells her about what really happened but never knows if hes trying to manipulate her, and she cant believe anyone.
ALSOOOOOO imagine mog saying to jupiter "do you trust me" and he hesitates but then says "yes" DGDGJSDFGRWUKGILRGHRFKGBJTGHRTVGBHJB im unwell
TL;DR - wunsoc is evil, republic is more evil, squall surprisingly is NOT that evil, and helps mog and some wunsoc members overthrow both the republic and wunsoc and return the republic states to being independent nations (maybe great wolfacre becomes part of nevermoor??) and everything ends in harmony and world peace.
I don’t think this is particularly hot but please I need morridence and archawn (100% not the names the fandom uses I’m not in it enough to know)
ppl shouldnt ship any of the unit 919s together. theyre twelve yrs old yall
Jupiter x Squall is a weird ship
Ezra Squall is attached to Mog
Jupiter is asexual
Ezra is through and through evil, i don't believe there's a good part in him, and i don't really want Noelle to come back, i don't care for her
Fandom can focus a lot on squall instead of other characters- still like it nevertheless!
I want to see Mog can closer to more of past/current sub nine members than certain unit members
i dont like how the fandom treats squall tbh.
Jack needs more screen time
I find it kinda weird that some people worship Morrigan or think she's real. Idk, it makes me kinda uncomfortable since she's a teenager. It's like the Snapewives all over again
hawthorne and arch like each other fight me (it’s like drarry except i fucking hate drarry)
I don’t trust the elders
That morrigans mum might be alive or has a huge dramatic life story
Lack of ships is interesting and I kinda want there to be ships
I don't like Hawthorne
Nevermoor is miles better than Harry Potter. Don’t tell my little sister I said that though
Morrigan's mother is alive
i‘m too scared to really get involved even though everyone seems really nice (that’s a me problem though)
Morrigan is eventually going to have to face Corvus, also I really want her to have a relationship with her twin brothers
i think ezras gay ngl
I will forever say Morrigan is straight
Morrijack forever
Some Nevermoor fans are disgusting.
morrigan should have started learning the wundrous arts in book 2
Considering how badly Wunsoc reacted to Morrigan being a Wundersmith, the crew at the Deucalion are far too accepting. Like maybe they're all just genuinely really nice people, but it's likely that some of them do harbour some kind of resentment about it. Like, how couldn't you? There must be some lingering apprehension that they keep quiet because of Jupiter.
Some people in the fandom are disgusting and forget that characters like Jack and Hawthorne are children.
idrk what the consensus is on what characters, facts, events etc. people like or dont like in the series, but all my friends say jack is one of their favourite characters but he is near the bottom of my list.
Hawthorne has a Scottish accent
Ezra Squall is actually a good guy being controlled by the wunsoc
Ezra Squall likes to cooks and wears cute aprons as he does :3
Nurse Tim has a really strong northern irish accent
cold take: baz charlton deserves to rot in hell
I ship Ezra and Jupiter
not a hot take but i HATE morrijack witth a burning passion THEYRE SIBLIGNS
Idk about hot but morrijack can burn in hell. That’s pretty hot
Ezra Squall/Jupiter makes no sense.
Jupiter is a flawed character but tries his best
Morrigan can control / access a wide variety of wunderous controls all around Nevermoor that controlled the city and maybe even some of the pockets if she knew where to look as a wundersmith as stated by squall in the books about how nevermoor is waiting to be brought to life and controlled/ do her bidding seeing as how much the wunderous society relied on wundersmiths before ezra squall.
All the children are gay
every character is aromantic or asexual trust me guys
Idk if this is a hot take but I think it would be interesting to see if Morrigan and Jupiter’s relationship just kind of got a lot worse as she grew up. Sad, but interesting.
Super duper random and unimportant but if Charlie and Martha ever have a seen I reckon he’d also be Charlie (Charlie jr.), but if they had a daughter Martha would absolutely refuse to name her Martha (or after anyone else they know)
Anah and Thaddea are a ship
Mr Jones > Ezra Squall. I don’t like Squall too much. The disguise made him more interesting.
Not so hot of a take, but I'm pretty sure Morrijack has most potential of becoming canon
Jupidad moments are da best
The ninth Wundrous Art is the creation of life.
Considering Ezra Squall a father figure of Morrigan/making any sort of positive light of him is a bad idea considering he’s literally a mass murderer!
whimsigoth/found family thing goes so hard
Yall go to easy on Ezra.
The fandom is too quick to ignore Morrigan's past in the Wintersea Republic
not much of a hot take but mahir is underrated as hell
I dont like morrijack at all
i really dislike jupiter x ezra
I think the emphasis on shipping feels really out of place int his fandom tbh. Idk, I get having headcanons about the characters’ sexualities and I do that too, but I just don’t see much shipping potential in the characters? Theyre just besties/found family and that’s part of what I love about them
don't think I have any but. live and let live let people have fun it's not really your business what they want to do
any fanfic I’ve read that tries to redeem squall usually completely loses all his characterisation in the process, even though I think it’s possible to have redeemed (and BY THAT I mean a squall who cares about Morrigan and other people and understands and is effected by hurt he has caused) squall with canon characterisation. You just have to work HARD.
I hate frank
Wuncos is hiding somenthing
i hope romantic relationships only play a minimal role as the series goes along
Ezra never did commit the massacre. Onstaldt knew this
Jack isn't gay
I don’t fully trust jupiter
What’s something you’d like to see more of in the fandom?
Again, copied verbatim.
fic? in general but particularly canon divergent fic
More fanart of minor characters ! and art in general, i love seeing all of it :^)
More new fan content (since it's never enough :)))
I just want the fandom to EXIST outside tumblr. Like on tiktok specifically. I need company over there!!!
Engagement
Activity
Non shipping fan works
More theorizing and engagement
Fan art of places/scenes
More world analyses to try and understand the physical backdrop of Nevermoor and the Free State (geography, time period, etc)
The fandom it self I want someone to actually talk about the book series with
Story discussions and analysis
literally everything
Memes
more interaction and support for the people who create things for the fandom
More people in it. It's really welcoming and it would be nice to have more people in general around here. Other than that it would be art because it's something I massively support.
ANIMATICS! obviously as an artist I understand that they are difficult and time-consuming to make, but as an art enjoyer ……. I want them I want to see themmmmmmm
Art
Humans
More main trio/unit 919 being friends <333 that’s like the main thing the fandom does but I still want more <333
fanart theres some wonderful artists in the fandom
More sharing of fanfics across the different platforms so as to
animatics.... I'm working on one and it's super fun, but a very long process. ooh and audio dramas/read a louds. And I love seeing theories and things, both about plot and worldbuilding stuff
every single member of 919 and the kajillion different dynamics they all have with each other. i dont care if theyve showed up twice fic justice for mahir and francis and anah and arch and thaddea and lambeth and and and
Theory
MORE EVERYTHING! More Mog more art more absolutely incoherent posts more theories I love everything that’s going on it’s the best
More stuff about the side characters
I would like to see more people in general in the Fandom.
Updates
Engagement
More active Subreddit
PEOPLE
fanart fanfic anything everything
People being a bit less delicate.
More engagement from Jessica Townsend
Drawings of the places in nevermoor. Like I cannot draw places well at all but I rlly wanna see ppls interpretations of nevermoor, the deucalion, Wunsoc, etc
Ppl that use there power in unique ways
ANYTHING LIKE PLEASEEE
Anything
Artwork
Cosplays!!!
I love reading fanfiction, but a lot of people are not actively writing it. Also some of the fanfiction written is (sort of?) weird and unethical. I don't have any accounts to make fan content myself or talk to other members of the fandom, but I check Reddit and Wattpad almost every day to see if there's new content by others.
More maps!
Everything 😪
Theory
How do I not see anything?! Just want to see more generally, I think!
I like a lot about where the (Tumblr) fandom is at right now (no ship wars, big controversies, or other fights that I know of right now), but I think it would be nice to see a little variety in headcanons and theories, because it feels like a little bit of an echo chamber right now (for example, it's almost always the same 919 members being shipped together). But I'm also afraid that more varied opinions will bring more fights with them, and I don't want to see our fandom fall into huge, meaningless arguments.
Wunimals fanfictions!!
Common human decency
Is it predictable if I say Helena? I‘d also love to see more ms. Cheery & Morrigan stuff. And more of the deucalion staff.
Finestra
group activities!! (not necessary though because i understand how difficult it is to create these activities and im so grateful for mogtober and nevermay and i love the fandom and wouldnt want anyone to feel any pressure i just love these events so much!!)
Jupiter love interest (Queen Cressida is a past lover mark my words)
uh.... edits, i guess.
You can never have too much fanart.
JACK and the school
OC's. I don't wanna feel like I'm the only one who has them 😭
for r/nevermoor memes to be more active
gay people that’s all
Ezra Squall
Fanart
Fanfics
fanart and fanfiction
Interesting takes on the books
Fanart
Fanfiction
Memes
Ezra/Jupiter
More fandom interaction in general tbh but that’s a tough ask 😭
i can’t get enough theories
Well written fanfiction
more poeple to try out the book its great!
Theories
High quality edits and video content and whole
hard quizzes
Lambeth's family
More fans in tiktok, edits and stuff.
Maybe more on the Wundrous Arts
More about the Wundrous Arts
Cool tiktok edits!!! (I'm not talented enough to edit my self)
videosss. this series may as well not exist on youtube lol. Even something simple, doesnt have to be a fancy animation. Just talk about theories, or make a hunger game simulator video, or ANYTHING. :]
More general attention! This series is so underrated!
Whatever interests ppl, thats a good way to learn/think abt new things
Fanart!!
Memes
analysis and music
more fanart
Discussion
Angst headcanons.
tiktoks 🥴
Archthorne!!! Also general like the background characters. Amir and Francis are so underrated I love my babies
Literally any content whatsoever. Maybe headcannons specifically. I looooovvveee seeing different people’s takes on things.
More gay ships and more fanart
Fan art of other characters
Unit 919 bonding
Always more fanart
not sure- general extra engagement would be nice
More Wuns (and Unwuns) joining the fandom + more fanfiction and fanart :))
Mogtober. I’m loving Mogtober and am super excited for it 2024.
Ezra Squall back story
Fan theories or answers to unanswered questions
Fanart. Mooore
Analysis of little details, more memes (not incorrect quotes, normal memes)
More people joining into the fandom 😭
More heavy-lore theories
Jupiter North/ Ezra squall fanfics
Comics
More detailed discussion would be lovely
Cosplays :D
more activity on reddit
Groupchat fics
Fanart! Not that there’s not enough I just love it so much
Fanart! Not that there’s not enough I just love it so much
honestly just some more basic fanfiction about the units day to day life
fanart!! esp of less drawn characters
Jupiter's background
More fanfic!!!!! And more Jupidad, always more Jupidad with his two wonderful sassy little children
morrigan/francis and morrigan/thaddea just little cute things, and the ADULTS’ DRAMA! I wanna know holliday wu and dame chanda did as teenagers (together… I think they were friends at some point)
Jupidad
Fanfics
Living map/dioramas
Evil Morrigan and more theories for the end of the series.
Cosplay
Getting weird with it! You don't need to create for an audience, I'm a firm believer in making art for you and your one other freak. Make theories that are mostly speculation, write for a pairing that nobody's even thought of, draw fanart even if you don't think it's "good enough". Be cringe, be free.
