i am leviathan.

kress kisser sideblog :)

[symposiumsoulmates]

hi. my name is adam, i go by it/that/he, and i love the kress twins. this is my place to talk about that.

i am an anatomist and an amateur political scientist and art historian. i'm currently in school to advance my medical career. the little free time i have is spent writing and creating art.

i know a lot about these two, which is saying something considering their sparse canon. i've also spent entire business weeks simply writing and speculating about them. if you have ANY kress twins questions, my asks are open. i would love to try and answer them.

[symposiumsoulmates]

officially going on hiatus for safety, this fandom fucking sucks, be back soon.

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Different anon, but was curious since it was brought up: how do you feel about people that make OC’s or ship themselves with Otto and Arora? I really couldn’t bring myself to ship with prime assets, but i like the idea that people really love them that much

this is a bit embarrassing to admit, but i do have an oc who bears a very personal attachment to the twins. i also talk a lot with a close friend of mine about its own oc who more outwardly smooches on the twins (i love you nero). other than ocs, when it comes to selfshipping or whatever it's called this week, i have a lot of friends who do it. it seems fine, whatever gets your rocks off. i do have a bit of an issue with people shipping themselves with prime assets specifically without educating themselves on their political context, specifically white americans with coyle.

i'm going to be bad and say that you need to do a LOT of very uncomfortable research on the history of racism in america, SPECIFICALLY antiblackness in oklahoma before and during his time as a free man if you're going to talk about him and have me listen. this isn't a coyle blog because i have a bias against him, but i could talk about him for a very long time. whatever. you should also know basic things about philosophy and early 20th century american politics if you want to slobber over otto, chemistry and the history of women in STEM for arora, the mafia in the southern US for franco, black and jewish women and children in the entertainment industry for gooseberry, and christian orthodoxy/gnosticism/general fanaticism and the treatment of women during WWII for liliya. but i can't force people to read. if i could i would probably be a lot happier

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Do you yumeship/selfship with the twins??

i had to google what these words mean for the bajillionth time because i can never remember.

no, not really, at least not outwardly or in a way that demands a label or anything. i obviously do feel a connection to them and find them theoretically attractive but i don't understand the general "yumeshipping" ordeal and don't think that it's for me.

[moonxcii]

[the-singularitys-discourse-blog]

Outlast fan #1: If the Kress Twins were alive today, they’d be liberals!

Outlast fan #2: No they’d be CONSERVATIVE!

The Kress Twins if they were alive today: We are quite fond of bisexuality

[symposiumsoulmates]

I'M NOT FUCKING CALLING THEM THAT.

[riddlrr]

being chained up all of the time or smth..

[bazahabinga]

[agentlove]

i got really emotional thinking about them as kids

[ollierachnid]

scribblin

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Do you ever write narratively??? I would love to read it :3

thats papas private time okay nobody gets to see the things that happen in my roleplay threads and google docs

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okay. i feel the need to bring attention to arora's role in the trials. everyone overlooks her genius so unendingly it's almost hurtful. arora is the reason why the trials are what they are. arora is responsible for the existence of the psychosis gas and thus for the skinnerman— which is to say, she is responsible for the existence of easterman's egregore and the root of the psychological influence of the trials at large. she is responsible for easterman's descent into drug addiction due to the sheer quality of her formulations, and thus for the descent into madness (and corresponding ascent into effectiveness) sinyala has experienced. she is undoubtedly responsible for countless chemical breakthroughs in the larger world that were so completely widespread they became nearly invisible. leland coyle, poor and rural, knew about the quality of her pharmaceutical syntheses. she had to teach herself japanese to converse with the only person on her level, and she did so seemingly without struggle. her father relied on a formula that was implicitly hers in his attempt to kill her. even if it was not hers, the antidote was, and she was enough of a surgeon to save her own life, along with otto's. she was enough of a surgeon to save her father's life— sawn in half from groin to chops (ha) and sewn back together upside down, he lived for weeks with her help. she is ridiculously accomplished.

this, by all means, does not mean that otto is a vestige. otto is the means by which she was empowered to pursue her career as successfully as she did. otto is what allows her to keep going. otto is an accomplished politician and publicist, a phenomenal speaker and writer, and, by all means, an even better lover. i just delight in thinking about the mud that the trials would be stuck in without the twins. i genuinely think that sinyala could function more smoothly without easterman than it could without them.

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what animal(s) would otto and arora be? would they be the same animal or different ones? their fursonas if you will

it kind of takes everything in me to avoid saying that otto is an elephant solely because of his connections to the northern-progressive republican party. still, i think that he's a mule. a strong, endlessly stubborn equine made to carry the weight of whatever he must. arora could also be a mule, but i wouldn't be myself if i didn't connect her to some sort of avian. i think she would be a western cattle heron, partially because they're beautiful and have always reminded me of a graceful and lithe old woman and partially because they have a symbiotic relationship with mules that generally involves sitting on their shoulders or backs (much like someone we know).

[symposiumsoulmates]

Hiii I love seeing your thoughts on the Kress twins. It makes my entire day when you post! :)

I noticed that Otto refers to Arora as sister a lot but you never hear Arora call Otto brother… I personally feel like they DO love eachother (in more ways than one) but there’s a lot of manipulation going on between them. There’s certain dialogue that indicates Arora may have more of a sexual fascination towards Otto than he feels towards her.

Maybe I’m stating the obvious… but I can’t fully get behind the idea that Otto is acting selflessly in that relationship (nor Arora but more so Otto.) I love his character … but I do not trust his character. 😭

oh wow this ask is fucking antique. i'm so sorry. i'm so happy that you like when i post and sorry about my weird hiatus.

the general inequality in otto and arora's relationship is really important to consider, i absolutely agree. i also think that the imbalances in their dynamic very adequately (and very intentionally) "compromise." you can't get a proper idea of how they coexist and, beyond that, love each other as deeply as they do, from looking at just their physiology, just their psychology, or just their personality. it's all so deeply intertwined.

i have in the past seen a lot of people latching onto one aspect or another of their characters in an attempt to determine, quantitatively, who is hurting who in their relationship— from what end some implicit abuse comes, whose body is delivered more turmoil, whose mind is delivered more agency. in my eyes, the twins were doomed by nature to hurt each other, and have defied that nature to help each other. the massive inequalities that appear in some areas come to balance their counterparts in others.

take, for example, arora's tendency towards what i will call sanguinity for the sake of brevity. arora is, at least outwardly, not only the more sexually forward of the two—

—but also much more sensitive in general. compared to otto, she requires much less (and sometimes no) provocation to become extremely depressive and self-deprecating—

—often twisting otto's words or using anton's words against themselves. this isn't to mention her tendency to become verbally harsh towards otto.

i refer to this emotional excitability as sanguinity because otto, for all intents and purposes, is the more sensitive of the two. he responds with more sympathy and tenderness to her emotional distress than she does his. he, with admirable grace, takes the brunt of her manipulation (be it intentional or not) and humors her whims in exchange for what they both know is his life. arora says it herself, numerous times: when she is hurt, he is hurt, both physically and emotionally. there is no "acting selflessly" for either of them, especially not when arora's mood is capable of putting both of them at risk. one must simply trust that otto is behaving out of love and not of self-preservation—

— and i believe that we have plenty of reason to. :)

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here is my kress twins playlist. i've been on and off about sharing it, since it's semi-personal (and not as photorealistic as it could be given it's made to put me to sleep), but i think it's worth it. it's about an hour and ten long and quite generic. have fun

[halfassedmammalucco]

new prime time voice lines for coyle about the twins and liliya from this reddit post! from the teasers, its very likely that the next season will have the third coyle map so they got his VA in the booth for these while they were at it lol (no other PAs have new lines)