Could you elaborate on your bingjiu post? I may be misunderstanding, but I'm confused by the conflation between bingjiu and bingqiu.
I am also pretty ambivalent towards bingjiu because most of what I see for it feels like mischaracterization (or blatantly rewriting canon), but I don't think that shipping bingjiu necessitates thinking that LBH felt similarly to SJ!SQQ as SY!SQQ, or that LBH fell in love with SJ!SQQ as a disciple. I think at its best it's toxic yaoi along the lines of "we're both monsters" and "you molded me into your likeness", which doesn't have much in common with bingqiu's dynamic.
Pretty, almost, it! I have seen some people write long winded metas on the fact that OG!LBH is someone who is so DESPERATE for love and attention that once he sees the "other world" SQQ, he might feel like the SQQ he has in his world, pickled and human stick like in the dungeons, might start to form attachment , even of toxic kind towards that man.
Here is the snitch- That madly underestimates how emotionally intelligent LBH can be. In the text most people have tried to explain away why suddenly "SQQ"'s personality drastically changed after waking up from "qi deviation" at the start of the novel and taken it as a fact that perhaps its because of the deviation he is the way he , after not finding any evidence that he is "possessed". However, you know who could tell?? YGY. He is the only one who can tell deep down that this man is not SJ anymore, only one who "mourns" that he is gone. If YGY a man who barely got close to SQQ!SY version can tell this, Binghe, who has been through the dreams and nightmares of SY!SQQ, who knows "other dimensions" exist, and has spend significant portion of time with both sides of "SQQ" can DEFINITELY figure out that the SQQ he has and the SQQ he met in the Binghe v/s Bingmei extras are two different people. Its only a matter of time.
Even most ppl who act like LBH and SJ are "similar" people do concede that LBH is emotionally aware enough to know what goes inside the hearts of most people around him- from his 300+ women harem where practically none of them love him for him, to his subordinates to even SQQ. It would be hard for someone like LBH, who was won over by SY!SQQ after he doted on him endlessly for MONTHS and even tried to save his life countless times , to ever feel anything REMOTELY close to a fraction of it for someone who basically broke his self so badly after relentless abuse, trauma and outright murder attempt.
Not to mention we do know what OG!LBH does when he figures out eventually that the people he wants to be sincere with are playing him for their own again aka his Haram- that is keep them at superficial distance. Heck! He can barely form any significant bonds with his own children from the unreliable commentary of SY on PIDW. I also disagree with most of the fandom who act like OG!LBH never tried his best to loving to his wives. He did, at least the first few wives he acquired, since most of them had a significant impact in his life and acted like they cared for his well being. He would cook for them, please them with fancy cultivation tricks, even fight for them. We know from how he acted with SY!SQQ that he does that when he wants to love someone with true intentions. But in the end he and his wives are just playing house and they both know it.
So can you imagine a guy like this ever trying to go back to that insincere , loveless existence after he found someone like SY!SQQ possibility existing!? COME ON. He might be genuine enough deep down, despite his heart being blackened like a muddied Lotus to leave finally in the SV world when he saw LBH and SY!SQQ truly love each other , but not foolish enough to compromise on something he never liked if he found something which made him happy. We see that real time in SV verse when he refuses to entertain NYY and all the girls with SY!SQQ existing right there!
People write Binggeyuan AUs a lot and frankly THAT is far more likely crack to happen then Bing.jiu!
I think most people seem to not internalize the gravity of what LBH and SJ represents. Sure SJ was not playing a manipulative paternal game with LBH like J*n Wu was in 'T.gcf but the impact it had on his psyche was not any less damaging. People ship Junl*an sure, but in a cracky , ironic way. Nobody is genuinely writing metas on the idea that XL has some kind of genuine affection enough for someone like JW esp after he knows all the betrayal and trauma he inflicted.
SJ was LBH's Shizun too. He had the BARE MINIMUM responsibility to at least be courteous to him if not outright kind and affectionate. LBH was just as badly tortured and attacked behind his back for NO GOOD REASON like XL was. Just a teenager like XL whose innocent existence/words were seen as provocation due to jealousy( yes I will say it SJ's main issue with LBH has always been his jealousy stemming from feeling inadequate , that even YGY couldn't remove. If he could SJ won't be a twat even as a child on the streets, bullying other equally unfortunate kids with him. I know some people insist its because LBH's "A Luo" nickname triggers him or something but nah, NYY was not even there when he picked him up to be selected. LBH represents the fact that SJ knows deep down that he is a wretched person and he cannot keep blaming everyone else for his actions esp since LBH exists who has been through what he has and still is not burning in anger and misery each day. But this is another meta for another day. I have had people deny that he is self assessing correctly when he calls himself an ass once in his life, insisting he is talking crazy because "trauma" ) . To be even betrayed by someone who had NO reason to kill him like this, obviously LBH snapped!
You cannot repair something or forge something when nothing of sincerity remains. People underestimate not only LBH's emotional intelligence but also his tolerance for taking crap from others. My man has standards. He didn't even fell in love with SQQ until he started to treat him like his North Star of the world, going out of his way to save his life at his own expense.
Would like to clarify; Ship and let ship but yeah if someone wants to be serious about crack, I too would also have some serious thoughts on how that crack cannot exist. Bing/jiu as a crack ship is fine to me. I actually rtwt BJ art on my twt because its one of the few times i get visuals for some sexy, animalis passion that does exists between BQ but idk why there aren't that many fanart?? But oh well LOL