#20phan12

[adziedoodlesphan]

unpopular opinion: i don't blame 2012-era dan. did he handle the situation well? no, but people need to remember that he's not a celebrity in the traditional sense. he didn't have some manager behind him guiding him on how to publicly respond, if at all. furthermore, the source of his frustration wasn't really phan, but fear for his privacy, as well as his friends' and family's, and was right to be. phan was just the cherry on top, yet the phandom blows that bit out of proportion

i think this is a lot more popular of an opinion as we move further away from 2012. time really allows you to see different perspectives on such things - i certainly agree with you now ahaha.

i can see why people blow it out of proportion though. ppl love a good thrill esp if it can be used as angst (i dont rly have a problem w/ that i am here for some thrills and angst as long as people understand and accept the difference between fiction and the complexities of real life issues)

[adziedoodlesphan]

Wait what did 2012-2013 Dan do to make people upset??

it was a bunch of stuff tbh but just his general behaviour was a bit asshole-ish at times... plus there was some problematic stuff he said but back then it was far more common to be that way and he’s certainly made amends for it imo - you can read more into it all in the links i refer to here as well or just search ‘2012′ on my blog or something~

[adziedoodlesphan]

i spent the day watching dan's liveshows from 2012/13 and idk if i love him anymore... :c

If you wanna base your opinion/thoughts/feelings on how Dan was back 4-3 years ago… Go ahead. I just really think it’s unwise - and this is coming from someone who did dwell a lil too much in Dan’s actions in 2012-13 and found it hard to like Dan now.

But I eventually came to the conclusion that what matters most is the present…and present Dan has grown/improved so much since then, and is also in a better situation in life as well! Awful times can bring out the worst in people but that isn’t a solid permanent conclusion on what they are like as a person. Dan is hardly the person he was back on 2012-13. I know some people have issues with the fact he hasn’t apologised for what he said/did but to be honest it wasn’t like people in the phandom are really owed an apology as our behaviours back then weren’t exactly perfect either. Imo, the best apology for past actions is CHANGE, showing that change, acting out on that and Dan has certainly changed for the better in recent years and showed it and acted out on it.

Again, you do you, and I know I can be hard to like ‘forgive and forget’ sometimes but as someone who had thought what you have for a very long time, I really would think twice before basing opinions/thoughts/feelings on a past version of Dan.

[adziedoodlesphan]

i think peoples are too used to call dan a ''liar'' since 2012... that need to change now.

I h8 it like it can be really cruel as well bc it completely disregards why he covered/covers stuff up. idek get why the tweet sparked “liar” stuff anyway.

[adziedoodlesphan]

everyone talking about 2012!dan being upset abt 2016!dan  . .. . i get it but.. ..  like... for real  th o .. ... . . 2012!dan probs be happy to see that his future self can feel comfortable enough to be open about that kinda stuff... . .. . .. . .even if it was a tweet that i wanna kinkshame

[adziedoodlesphan]

thinking about 2012 literally make me feel sick in my stomach.. i wish i could just laugh about it.

idk what you idea of 2012 is exactly but... ah um im sorry to hear about that anon... all i can really suggest is that.... remember it’s 4 years in the past now... what matters is the present...and right now - things are 10000 times better than they were back then - for d+p and the phandom :)

[adziedoodlesphan]

2012dan is probs turning in his grave and i love it

tbh i don’t .. . i think if 2012!dan did get to meet present dan, he’d be overjoyed with happiness (but probs still express it in a apprehensive sarcastic/jokey manner) because it means he will finally be able to be comfortable with expressing himself for who he truly is and how he truly thinks o h n o i just made mysefl sad and want to hug 2012!dan suddenly bye  frien ds

[adziedoodlesphan]

i was watching old stuff about phan and why do i feel like dan was ruining almost every special moments...?(kinda still sometimes)

yeah i get that impression too...but i don’t really wanna hold it against him anymore, ya know? i imagine dan wasn’t too keen on those moments being on camera/shared with the public due to various reasons like maybe due to his own insecurities and/or issues around privacy/safety/comfort...