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The Root of the Matter

According to Hugo, there is a difference between revolts and insurrections. Insurrections are the powerless rising against the powerful. Revolts are the powerful fighting against the powerful. Insurrections are more philosophical. Most insurrections begin as riots, and some go so far as to become revolutions.

Universal suffrage is supposed to eliminate the need for both riots and insurrections.

What was June, 1832? Only an uprising? An aftershock from 1830?

“We alter a few names, for history relates and does not inform against, but the deed which we shall paint will be genuine. In accordance with the conditions of the book which we are now writing, we shall show only one side and one episode, and certainly, the least known at that, of the two days, the 5th and the 6th of June, 1832, but we shall do it in such wise that the reader may catch a glimpse, beneath the gloomy veil which we are about to lift, of the real form of this frightful public adventure.”

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I like Hugo’s comparison of an émeute, a riot, as a sweeping, unstoppable force of nature, fueled by some natural and inevitable destabilization. “The émeute is a sort of waterspout int he social atmosphere which suddenly takes form in certain conditions of temperature,” that is, while it /may seem randomly destructive, the riot arises from specific and identifiable conditions. This is a very helpful way of looking at revolutionary violence, not as an uncontrollable force, but as a symptom of chronically exacerbated underlying tensions. These tensions seem invisible to those who aren’t suffering under them, but any meteorologist or literally just a person standing in the middle of a storm can see them very clearly.

“System: the émeute strengthens the governments which it does not overthrow.” Classic deviance theory from Durkheim. A healthy, but not overbearing, deviant group helps to strengthen the solidarity of mainstream society. People are never more patriotic than when they feel their culture/way of life/identity/status quo is under threat. The idea of a common enemy brings people together. Note: this theory really only applies when the majority or mainstream are maintaining and consolidating their power. This isn’t the same thing as poor and/or minority communities banding together to survive under an oppressive power. (Also this is why intersectionality is really, really important when advocating for oppressed groups! It breaks up the monolith of power into manageable fronts that can be confronted by a unified collective).

This is not what happened in 1830; the moderate “compromise school” that Hugo mocks claims that “[the émeutes] degraded that revolution, at first so remarkable for unanimity, into a quarrel.” This draws from the ideas I mentioned above, but from the perspective of the bourgeoisie complaining that the riots were too costly, too violent, so messy and dishonorable. Did the poor really have to do all that when half a revolution would have been good enough? Why did they have to want more? The bourgeoisie are in storm shelters, complaining about how the poor weren’t satisfied with their new umbrellas. I’m biased, obviously, but so is Hugo. He very keenly points out “And what if the 14th of July did cost a hundred and twenty millions? The establishment of Philip V. in Spain cost France two thousand millions.” Why do we value the glory of patriotic war, but devalue the riots of our own citizens in pursuit of fair treatment? We will soon see that framing and context are just as, if not more important, than the acts themselves.

Here’s another nice bit: “the war of the whole against the fraction is insurrection; the attack of the fraction against the whole is an émeute.” I would add that there’s an additional layer of power dynamics to consider that complicates this, but I take Hugo’s meaning well enough.

I’m…going to skip the dense historical passages, but the big question to take away from all of this is: who decides? Who lives, who dies, who tells your story? To the victor go the spoils and the history textbooks, etc. Hugo says, “In the beginning insurrection is an émeute,” that revolution always starts as a riot and it’s where the course of history ends up that determines whether an event stays as a riot or earns the title of insurrection. This is important because, remember, riots are wrong (violent, costly, messy) and insurrections are right (just, noble, moral). I’ll add in again that it’s all about where the power ends up, who decides, in the end. July is a revolution, June is a rebellion.

Hugo wavers a whole lot when it comes to talking about revolts and rebellions and riots. He shows a pretty clear understanding of how the victors write history and how historical value and the distribution of power go hand in hand. In the face of this, he explicitly states “we show only show one side and an episode, and that certainly the least known…but we shall do it in such a way that the reader may catch a glimpse, under the gloomy veil which we are about to lift, of the real countenance of that fearful public tragedy.” He is not a historian here and tells us so. He’s a dramatist and is deliberately telling one side of the story as a drama of humanity. The same man who found the human drama in Louis Philippe’s rise to the throne, in the Bourbon Restoration, in Gillenormand. It’s something that frustrates me to no end, but makes Hugo what he is.

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Maybe it’s the jaded 21st century reading, but:

Riot/émeute = you lost and/or Hugo thinks you’re wrong

Insurrection = you won and/or Hugo thinks you’re right

Motivation by ‘progress’ = you’re right

Motivation by anything else = you’re wrong

And Hugo’s writing has totally become more badass through exile--his power grows the more you try to silence him.

We know this, because he just told us so. How on earth did he get this past the censors? I mean I know his strategy, but he’s not being the least bit coy by this part and we haven’t even gotten to the action.

No second person pronouns.

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Il y a l'émeute, et il y a l'insurrection; ce sont deux colères; l'une a tort, l'autre a droit.

Nice thesis sentence. It's an interesting idea, but I'm sort of wondering how much of this is 'Vicky Hugs has serious opinions about the connotations of specific terms', versus 'Vicky Hugs has conflicted feelings about his own history with street warfare' and/or 'Vicky really wants someone to overthrow the second empire, but would prefer not living through constant riots thereafter, please.' All of the above?

He has opinions; he has examples; he has several favorite authors to mention; and he has some major baggage to unpack regarding colonialism. Overall, I found the chapter an interesting meditation on when the use of force is praised and when it is condemned. Any useful comments went completely out of my head at "la plupart des acteurs de ces scènes gigantesques ont disparu; dès le lendemain ils se taisaient", because it's Tome 4 and there can be no happiness.

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Brick!Club 4.9.3-?: In Which A Massive Effort Is Made By The Reader To Catch Up

So we shall blog as we read and see where this takes us eh?

4.9.3

Mabeuf! :-( *massive amount of feelings*

Just to read the progression- selling books, buying a book with the money and going without a meal, the massive injustice of not getting the full worth of the books back- and DIOGENES, that he had to sell the last thing he had enjoyment in and just wanders off in a daze... words in any language can't express the sadness of all this.

4.10.1-2

a intriguing discussion. is a riot or emeute worth it? Personally I'd say that it depends on the circumstances- it shouldn't be a first resort but I'm of the opinion that there are some things worth fighting for and sometimes people need that kick in the pants that harsh circumstances bring. Oh we have clarification- emeute and riot is not the same as what Hugo considers the righteous insurrection. Ah that sorta makes sense. What randomly comes to my mind as Hugo cites all these exapmles that I'm less familliar with is what did Hugo consider some of the stuff that happened on America etc? Not, on further reflection, that the Boston Tea Party is anything at all like a riot, and I'm not sure what the Boston "Massacre" would be but I'm curious? (it wasn't a massacre by any definition atleast.)

4.10.3-5

This. Is Cool. Just the way Hugo is building things up and describing everything is brilliant- yo can feel the tremor in the air the terror the bravery the excitement the danger. While reading about the funeral, I admit I was sorta conjuring up the scene from the movie in my head; it does sorta convey the feel somewhat.The Insurrection is an unstoppable palpable force\. Vive La France!

4.11.1

"Mother Whatziss I'm borrowing your gadget." Add this to the list of awesome Gavroche moments (if one hasn't been created it needs to be because the boy has a few.) and the apple turnover- I'm smiling and feeling sad at the same time.

4.11.2

It's weird reading a book and coming upon a familliar name in the middle in a completely different context. In the FMA at least someone exclaims the phrase "Luddy!" which is a in fact an Irish-American surname I've heard before... I'm kind of curious what it means in this context? Other than that what we get here is more Gavroche being his lovely irreverent gamin self.

4.11.3

It's intersting how Hugo is pulling threads together with this nod and interlude with the barber. More Awesome Gavroche.

4.11.4

Amis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Armed to to the teeth Amis- I wonder if Hugo had special purpose in the weapons he gave each of them? Wikipedia mentions that carbines were usually given to special ops which does seem appropriate for Bahorel, and the fashionable-ness of a sword cane for Courfeyrac.

Feuilly you lovely dork; yo and your Poland. And so excited... "Behind Feuilly...bounded,..."

And there is Bahorel.Do I really need to say more about how cool he is? I'll leave the over-exuberant praise to Pilf as I'm sure she has plenty of thoughts on this.

Gavroche the fanboy- it's kind of adorable.

And we come full circle with this live blogging because here comes Mabeuf again and I am sad.

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Also, Hugo's snittiness about the bourgeoisie always cracks me up. They're not even a class! they're a kind of furniture! OPINIONATED FURNITURE! (and thus, one might suggest, perfect material for barricades. But I'm pretty sure Hugo's not going that direction, even though the inclusion of the middle classes is really essential and now I'M digressing, and I have SO MANY CHAPTERS TO GO.)

4.10.2- The Essential Question

I'm mostly not going to grapple with the litany of historical incidents here, except to point out that it's a PERFECT example of why Hugo's historical/literary parallels have to be taken with a BIG grain of salt regarding his actual intentions-- he clearly has some Very Different Ideas about SOME people than a modern reader might (Colombus? WHAT COLOMBUS DID FOR AMERICA?!? Turn it into a genocidal slavescape?!? THAT makes revolt against him wrong ? I know I know it's the 19th century, teachings on the subject were...different, but ..?? This is sounding an awful lot like the whole ' slaves got exposed to Christianity so they should be THANKFUL' stance and I. No. No that is not how it works, okay.

Given the other names I DO recognize here I'm gonna guess that Hugo and I would have A FEW more disagreements on the subject of Legitimate Authority and Legitimate Protests in the specific. But as for the basic idea that a mass revolt is not ALWAYS in the right I

nrrrgh I can

see that point?? Certainly there's plenty of mob action against minorities (meaning just numerically here, but also yes, against culturally determined Official Minorities) that is purely vile; the group against the individual is VERY OFTEN wrong, but mass revolt against authority-- even 'legitimate' authority-- well,I can't get past the fact that this is NOT a thing people do for shitsn'giggles. (well, okay. Maybe SOME people. but not enough to make a real riot of it.) It is a dangerous, desperate thing, and even if people involved in the moment forget that, they're only able to reach that point of Upset because of WAY backlog of injustice. Insurrections don't come out of nowhere. And if a governing power has fouled up enough to GET a revolt-- not an externally-induced coup but a straight up revolt-- well maybe it needs to PAY ATTENTION NEXT TIME. I'm not saying violence on a personal scale is necessarily a right answer to violence on a systematic scale (also not saying it ISN'T, because hey, options), but if the sides are People With Rocks against People With Cannons I am always going to want to know WHAT DID THE PEOPLE WITH CANNONS DO TO MAKE THE PEOPLE WITH ROCKS THINK THIS WAS WORTH IT.

Ehem. Anyway. More book-specificallyish, here we are back in 1817, focusing on the minutiae of history and the things forgotten--only this time the minutiae and the forgotten are people we've spent a lot of time getting to know, lives and places that have weight and feel like a world now, and help I'm getting Waterloo-level emotions because this is the thing, what half this book is ABOUT, that these little lives that don't even count as newspaper minutiae are everything, the notes on the back of bathroom doors and the jokes people note in their journals mean more than the grand battlefields because it's these little moments that REALLY make history. Cambronne cursing on the battlefield counts, a peasant shaking his head counts, these things turn the wheel as much as weather and cannon (and of course weather and cannon are going to matter here soon too).

But unlike 1817, which was a rush of detail with a promise that no, this really matters, unlike Waterloo, which was a breakdown of history everyone at the time was assumed to know a LITTLE and presented as a post-mortem, this collection of details is very obviously relevant to people-- living people, people with lives, people NOT Historic, yet or ever--that carry a LOT of emotional weight, and gad, I wish I was good with words, because-

because it seems like the point here isn't that history is made of small details but that History isn't even REAL, that is, the faceless march of grand events so often presented as History doesn't even count. What makes it real, whether it's the history of long ago or the present moment about to become history, is the the tiny details, the small lives that get described as 'caught up' in it when really they're the current carrying history along. I AM NOT SAYING THIS AT ALL RIGHT, but...The Year 1817 bored me. It was newspaper clippings. The year 1832? I CAN'T KNOW ENOUGH, I want every newspaper clipping and mention of fads and detail of the streets, because people I love are walking here, people I'll never know except through knowing these details, and THEY ARE WHAT MATTER, they're the reason the history matters, the reason the past has anything to say to the future, because technology changes the world, government shifts, statistics wave across in graphs, but people learn from OTHER PEOPLE and to do that we have to talk to each other and that is what history is FOR, to expand the range of our community. This is 'the real countenance of that fearful public tragedy'-- not 'merely words', not statistics and numbers and money but these lives, in all their color and force. These people on every side and angle of the barricades are what ultimately made it happen and they're who we have to talk to if we want it to not happen again and I AM BAD AT BEING BRIEF.

But uh, yeah. For all I want to argue politics in this section, I'm too busy being awesomed by the sheer humanity going on. I--I'll try to get more properly political when I reblog more competent posts??