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Hi Abby! Wanted to ask you why do you think all the people in undertaker's lockers from a same time period? Like between 1830 and 1870,and after caludia's death in 1866 no locket is added...an most of the lockets are from after he deserted the grim reaper society so does that mean he reaped the soul of those people without having the grim reaper list?

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Significance of the lockets

I love asks about the lockets because that’s one of my favorite topics, even when I’m talking about Mother3 theory, like here and here. According to Mother3 theory, the lockets could be used as a weapon (emotionally) or as a shield (physically). Since battles in Mother3 rely on the player keeping time with the opponent’s battle music, I also think there’s a hidden music clue in the order of the lockets on their chain. But there’s a lot of information hiding in the existence and order of those lockets, even if you take away the musical clue aspect.

Lockets’ timeline

Let’s look at their timeline:

Dec 10, 1837 — Molly/Mally G. [Dec 10th is a Christian feast day.]

Nov 13, 1840 — Oliver A. [It’s a Friday the 13th.]

Jun 18, 1848 — Emile C. [The only last name I recall in the manga starting with a C (besides Collett, who left Weston to make room for our earl) is Chambers, the Viscount of Druitt’s actual last name. June 18th is also a somewhat random Christian feast day.]

Oct 7, 1851 — Harry E. [1851 is the year Vincent was born. Oct 7, 1851 is the 2nd anniversary of Edgar Allan Poe’s death. Oct 7th is also a Christian feast day.]

Apr 20, 1854 — Alex B. [In the manga, April 20, 1889 is significant; it’s also historically significant. April 20, 2006 is when Mother3 was released (but only in Japan!). It’s also possible that Frances/Francis was born in 1854. April 20th is another Christian feast day.]

Mar 1, 1862 — Gilbert D. [There’s an issue with Gilbert’s death date, since the year is different on some of the art. There’s an older illustration that looks like it’s 1885, but I’m going with this one, for now. Anyway, Mar 1st is yet another Christian feast day.]

Jul 13, 1866 — Cloudia/Claudia P. [That’s another Friday the 13th.]

Attachment order

And here’s the order they appear on the chain, from left to right:

Emile C.

Oliver A.

Alex B.

Cloudia/Claudia P.

Mally/Molly G.

Gilbert D.

Harry E.

I know that Japanese is read from top to bottom and right to left, but I don’t know if the same is applied to which way to read the order of names on the chain.

I do, however, know that you can make some cool music (here and here) from notes in the order of reading the last initials from left to right: CABF#GDE. I say F# because we don’t have a last initial F, but Phantomhive starts with “Ph”, which sounds like F, and you are more likely to see an F# than an F flat because F flat is the same as E. There is also at least one piece of music composed from playing the notes one way and then the other. [I’ll add a link when I can find it again.]

Potential order significance

When you map out how he attached the lockets over time, assuming he never rearranged them after attaching them, you will see he attached the first two halfway right then roughly halfway left of center. The next two were attached far left and far right. The rest eventually fill in the blanks, with Cloudia/Claudia’s getting the placement of honor in the center. It keeps some balance on the chain, as it’s filled up, but there isn’t complete consistency in the placement. [Note: the balance is maintained a bit better if Gilbert D.’s locket is added in 1862.] It’s also possible that he has rearranged the order and/or spacing of the lockets over time, as he’s added more. So, why this order? Why not end up with them in chronological order or something? Why not attach them in perfect balance with each other (if they were never rearranged)? There has to be a reason for this arrangement; Yana-san is so specific about the details of death order and arrangement on the chain for there to be no further meaning.

I think the order of the last initials gives us a hidden musical clue; I really do. It’s like a leitmotif for Undertaker, which our earl and Sebastian can “use against” him, just like making hit combos in Mother3, if you attack in time to the opponent’s battle music. There have been more straightforward uses of music in “battles” in the manga, like during the cricket tournament and later with the battle of the idol bands, so why not in this more symbolic way? The earl and Sebastian aren’t going to play these notes to battle Undertaker, of course, but the chain of lockets can be used to some sort of advantage. There are so many possibilities here, and I have numerous posts about that, like here. [Try clicking the tag below for #franklin badge or #courage badge for more.]

Timeline significance

As far as your specific questions are concerned, it’s very significant that all of these deaths occurred around the time he snuck out of the reaper organization (and realm?) and afterwards. Like I said earlier, there is confusion over the death year for Gilbert D, and I’ll talk a bit about that in a moment.

First, let’s talk about the oldest locket, the one for Mally/Molly G. I have quite a few posts about this. In a nutshell, I theorize Mally/Molly’s death might have been what finally made Undertaker leave the reaper organization. He had tried to destroy their HQ around 1819, the year Queen Victoria and Prince Albert were born. But Othello says that 136649 only half destroyed the place, suggesting that Undertaker failed… and that he might have been captured (and punished)… plus, Undertaker saying he hadn’t been called a reaper for about 50 years suggests he was not able to sneak out until nearly 20 years later. Mally/Molly dies at the end of 1837. That’s the year Victoria ascended to the throne, though she was officially coronated the following year. I suspect this was some last straw event for Undertaker, so he snuck out and took his death scythe with him (but left his reaper glasses behind). It might not have happened immediately after her death, but either then or soon after. One theory regarding his scars is that he was tasked to collect her soul, and her cinematic records attacked him (just like Thomas’s cinematic records attacking William in that “Will the Reaper” OVA… but worse, since there might have been no one to save him from it).

I have thought about the years on the other lockets, but we don’t have much to go on, just yet. Harry E. dies the same year Vincent is born, but I don’t see any other significance. His locket is at one end of the chain, but the order they were added on is a bit wonky. I’ll talk about that later, too. Crack theory: Harry E. has some connection with Vincent’s birth. Maybe a doctor was called for to help with the delivery? Otherwise, who knows why? Yana-san, that’s who.

Similarly, Alex B. dies the same year as one of my theories regarding the birth of Frances/Francis. If she was also born on a Friday the 13th, it was likely one of two dates: June 13, 1851 (as Vincent’s younger, fraternal twin) or January 13, 1854. If she’s Vincent’s younger (fraternal) twin, then this 1854 death wouldn’t have a connection to her birth. But if she was born in January 1854, it’s possible that Alex’s death about three months later could be connected. Like Harry E., this Alex could be a doctor or something. It’s also possible that Harry E. and Alex B. have nothing specific to do with the births of Vincent and/or Frances/Francis, but they have some other significance to Undertaker, and they were targeted to punish Undertaker after the births of his children.

Looking at all the dates, I see two instances of Friday the 13th’s, and I’m sure that’s significant on its own! Any time we see a Friday the 13th, it’s likely to do with punishment. I say this because I do believe Undertaker is Cedric K. Ros—, and Vincent was born on a Friday the 13th. I suspect that Frances/Francis probably was, as well. I think Cloudia/Claudia was killed at least partly because she had produced children of a reaper, and a Friday the 13th might be necessary for those births to occur [Undertaker parallels Thoth theory]. Her death was likely not a natural one, and the day of the attack might have been selected to “say” it’s punishment for this. Think of it like a criminal leaving behind a calling card or a clue to their identity. If that’s true, then Oliver A. must be an interesting case, too. What if he was another child sired by Undertaker, and he was killed as punishment for his own birth? Well, those people aren’t simply being punished; they are being killed. The punishment is for Undertaker; those clues or “calling cards” are messages to him.

There could also be historical significance to some of the other days, like April 20 (the day Mother3 was released, among other things), March 1 (feast day for St. David), etc., but I have yet to find any truly meaningful connections. The best I can come up with, so far, is that a few of these are Christian feast days. In fact, they might all be….

1866 is another turning point in Undertaker’s reaper life. I theorize it’s when he decides to get back into Vincent’s life and take a more active role in fighting against the queen. A more active role, too, in fighting back against the reaper organization.

If Gilbert D. really died in 1862, then Cloudia/Claudia’s death was the last in the series, and I have no idea why Gilbert might have been targeted, except that it’s the year after Prince Albert’s death. However, there’s a really interesting possibility, if he didn’t actually die until 1885. And that has to do with Madam Red. Long ago, I came up with a theory that Madam Red was pregnant with a son, and we know that their carriage “accident” was somewhat early in 1885. Well, I originally thought the unborn child might have been Gilbert D., and Undertaker had his own reason for being extremely upset about this. Thanks to Undertaker || Thoth theory, the fifth child born to the extended family should be a girl. And Madam Red wanted a daughter. So, now I don’t think Gilbert D. would be the son anyway; I think she was pregnant with a daughter.

Now, I’m thinking back to the un-introduced man that Madam Red married. All we know about him is he’s “Baron Burnett” or possibly really just the lord of the Burnett barony, since Madam Red is named Angelina Dalles (or Durless), not Angelina Burnett. So, if it’s March 1, 1885, then the mysterious Gilbert D. could actually be Madam Red’s dead husband. Why would that matter to Undertaker? Well, we only see the back of this guy’s head, but why? He could also be descended from Undertaker, or there might be some other connection. One of those possible connections could simply be how he died. Carriage accident. Sure. “Accident”. I don’t think so; I think he (and possibly the unborn child, too) was the intended target of this so-called “accident”. If this was on the queen’s orders, then Gilbert could have had some direct connection to Undertaker… or he could have been considered a threat to the crown in another way. This would be a cool theory, but chances are likely that Gilbert died in 1862, not 1885. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Basically, what I’m getting to is the idea that all 7 of these people were killed because of some connection to Undertaker… and that all of those deaths are “blood on the hands” of the queen. Her orders led to their deaths, even if it wasn’t by direct order. They were not all necessarily direct targets, but they died due to her words/actions. And these deaths might have been intended as punishment to Undertaker, especially if they were the intended targets. These are deaths that should not have occurred, as far as Undertaker is concerned. He doesn’t have access to the death lists anymore, so it’s also significant that, other than possibly Mally/Molly G., he couldn’t get onto the scene in time to stop them from dying. He might also hold the reaper organization responsible for not letting these individuals live. So, with the possible exception of Mally/Molly G., he probably didn’t reap their souls.

Please check out the tags below for more about the lockets, and you can also search my blog for “chain of lockets”; some posts should come up under that search, too.

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