#androgynphobia

[bisexxed]

androgyny is inherently gnc btw. androgynous nbs are not "gender conforming".

[baeddel-txt]

I don’t know who needs to hear this, but androgynous people aren’t oppressing you by being androgynous.

Non-binary people with an androgynous gender presentation are not the reason that society at large won’t accept you as non-binary.

It’s not because you’re feminine that society doesn’t accept you as non-binary. It’s because you’re non-binary that society doesn’t accept you as non-binary.

It’s not because you’re masculine that society doesn’t accept you as non-binary. It’s because you’re non-binary that society doesn’t accept you as non-binary.

It’s not because you’re gender conforming wrt your AGAB that society doesn’t accept you as non-binary. It’s because you’re non-binary that society doesn’t accept you as non-binary.

We live in a binary society, and being non-binary in any way is a threat to that. Having an androgynous presentation doesn’t suddenly make it non-threatening.

Society doesn’t want you to be androgynous. It wants you to not exist.

[themadcapmathematician]

I also think it's rly weird when ppl talk abt androgyny bc ppl always discuss it as an abstract concept cruelly inflicted upon them and not like real actually living people's gender and gender presentation? Like it's rly fucking dehumanizing to listen to ppl talk abt androgyny in this conceptual way that's caused them harm without any consideration for people who are androgynous who might be reading or listening, as if we just don't exist except as an idea to make them feel bad ig lol

[bisexxed]

i have still yet to hear one single person alive say that nonbinary people "owe" them androgyny. i have only encountered either negative reactions to androgyny, or insistance that you really don't need it, just don't worry about it, why would you want androgyny? it's very strange to me. androgyny is in no way welcomed in society. androgyny does not get you any bonus points with anyone. androgyny is not a privileged class. androgynous people are choosing hard mode when it comes to every aspect of public life.

[baeddel-txt]

“non-binary people don’t owe you androgyny”

No matter what we do or how we present, people are still going to insist that we’re not really non-binary. They’re still going to insist that we’re “really men” or “really women”, that we have to be one or the other.

People don’t want non-binary folk to be androgynous, they want us to not exist.

[baeddel-txt]

Non-binary people don’t owe you femininity.

Femininity is not a requirement for being non-binary. You can present as androgynous as you want and still be non-binary. Being androgynous instead of conforming to femininity 100% does not change who you are.

“Non-binary” can look like anything, including androgynous.

[themadcapmathematician]

"Nonbinary people dont owe you androgyny" when exactly has society desperately wanted people to present androgynously i want to know

[themadcapmathematician]

Me watching other nonbinary people claim that androgyny grants you privilege:

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