#antitangledtheseries

[marie95disneygirl]

Rapunzel and her prince (Flynn) in six different universes Never knew I needed music video

Rapunzel adaptations used: Rapunzel oder der Zauber der Tränen (1988), Timeless Tales from Hallmark Rapunzel (1990), Barbie as Rapunzel (2002), Rapunzel (2009), Tangled (2010) and Tangled ever after (2012) (Because only those two tangled movies respect the original Brothers Grimm fairy tale and its message about the importance of marriage in a love relationship) and Into the woods (2014).

I love how pro marriage Princess and the frog was, like the Rapunzel fairy tale and every adaptation of it should be. Disney's anti marriage series is offensive to the source material and was so clearly written by a hater of the movie, I still don't get how anyone can defend that crap. But it will never be canon to me.

Still wishing the live action tangled movie will at least end with a wedding or an accepted proposal at least.

[rahel-qc]

Why didn't they make the black rocks a direct consequence of plucking the flower? I mean, instead of making up the whole thing about King Edmund trying to destroy the moonstone, they could have made it so the moonstone was perfectly fine until that idiot Frederic decided to pluck the Sundrop Flower, which caused an imbalance and caused the moonstone to react and start hunting down the sundrop, destroying everything in its path.

[rapunzelfairytalelove]

Calling Out the People Who Mock Trauma Responses to the New Descendants Storyline

After speaking up about why the new Descendants “Flynn has secret kids” storyline is triggering to people with abandonment trauma, I’ve seen an unbelievable amount of cruelty, gaslighting, and outright dismissal.

So here’s a follow-up, because clearly it needs to be said:

1. Telling people “it’s just fiction” doesn’t erase the impact.

This is the go-to line when someone doesn’t want to examine why something feels off. Fiction does not exist in a vacuum. Disney, more than any studio, knows its influence on children, families, and cultural messaging.

If someone says, “This triggers my abandonment trauma,” the correct response is not:

“Grow up.”

“You need therapy.”

“It’s not that deep.”

The correct response is: “I hear you. That makes sense.”

2. Trauma responses are not “puritanical,” “misogynistic,” or “anti-sex.”

This accusation is as dishonest as it is insulting.

Nobody is angry because Flynn had sex. People are angry because Disney is taking a character defined by emotional vulnerability, insecurity, and chosen-family healing and turning him into a man who abandons women and children.

That is not sex positivity. That is apologia for deadbeat behavior.

And calling anyone who is triggered by father abandonment “puritanical” is a disgusting rhetorical tactic.

3. Dismissing someone’s lived experience is cruel.

People who grew up abandoned, neglected, or left behind by their fathers are not imagining the parallels. They are not being dramatic. This storyline mirrors their reality in painful ways.

When someone says:

“This reminds me of what my father did.”

Mocking, insulting, or belittling them does not make you “rational” or “above it.” It makes you someone who lacks empathy.

4. Fictional retcons can absolutely reopen old wounds.

People form emotional attachments to stories because stories help them understand themselves, their pasts, and their pain.

Flynn was a safe character for many viewers precisely because he was NOT the kind of man who abandons children.

He was the opposite of that.

Turning him into the very thing he stood against is not just bad writing. It is actively re-traumatizing for viewers who believed in him as a symbol of healing.

5. You cannot tell people how they’re allowed to feel.

If a storyline doesn’t bother you, fine. But that does not give you the right to dictate how deeply someone else is allowed to be affected.

Telling someone:

“You’re overreacting.”

“You’re crazy.”

“Go touch grass.”

“Get over it.”

is not a counterargument. It’s a blatant refusal to acknowledge that not everyone has your life experience.

6. If the defense of this storyline requires insulting real survivors, maybe the storyline is the problem.

When a fictional retcon causes widespread distress specifically among people with a history of abandonment, the humane thing is to pause and listen.

If your first instinct is instead to insult, shame, and humiliate people who were abandoned by their fathers, that says more about you than about them.

[marie95disneygirl]

💔 What Should Have Happened After Tangled — And Why Flynn Deserved Better

Disney had so many options for how to give Rapunzel and Flynn a realistic, romantic, and satisfying ending. Instead, they went with the lazy, unrealistic “everyone’s fine with it now” route — and then let the TV series drag Flynn through years of humiliation, rejection, and classist nonsense.

Here’s how it should have gone:

1️⃣ The Anastasia Route — Eloping

In their historical time period, it’s laughable to think Rapunzel and Flynn could:

Date for years without being married

Or marry without royal approval

Especially since her parents had literally sentenced him to death without a trial for stealing a crown. The idea that they’d just “accept him” is absurd.

They could have run away together, married in secret, and lived free — showing:

Flynn’s transformation into an honest man working to support them

Rapunzel’s willingness to give up royal privilege for love

2️⃣ The Aladdin / Little Mermaid Route — Fighting for Love

They could have:

Faced her parents’ rejection head-on

Proved to the kingdom that their love was real

Earned the royal blessing after showing courage, loyalty, and sacrifice

That would’ve made their marriage feel earned, not handed to them in a convenient fairytale shortcut.

3️⃣ The Sleeping Beauty Twist — Prince Reveal as the Key

Instead of Rapunzel spending years calling marriage a prison until Flynn turns out to be royalty, the story could have:

Had her parents forbid the marriage

Then had the “Flynn is secretly a prince” reveal win their approval

That way the “title” reveal comes from the world’s prejudice, not Rapunzel’s own shallow classism.

4️⃣ The Bitter Greens Approach — Marry Before Returning

They could have married before going back to her parents, securing their bond before any royal politics could tear them apart. This is actually common in Rapunzel retellings (where the prince marries her before taking her to his kingdom), and it makes sense:

Ensures no one can separate them

Shows Rapunzel’s commitment to Flynn the man, not Flynn the title

5️⃣ The “Forget the Palace” Option — Leave the Kingdom

Honestly? The healthiest, most in-character choice would have been:

Not returning to parents who condemned Flynn to death

Building a life together somewhere far away

Living free of the crown and choosing love over status

That would’ve been the ultimate arc:

Flynn proves his growth through hard, honest work to take care of her

Rapunzel proves her love by choosing him over power

❌ What We Got Instead:

Rapunzel returns to strangers who almost killed the man she loves without ever questioning that cruel sentence

Immediately acts like titles matter more than love

lies to him, lets everyone insult him, draws his face on a freaking punching bag for a toxic friend, rewrites his personality through time travel without ever feeling guilty about it

Spends years calling marriage to him a prison, a trap, a nightmare

Only changes her mind when he’s revealed to be royalty

This is after he literally died for her freedom.

The message? “Love is only worth it if your partner is royal.” It’s insulting. It’s classist. And it completely destroys the love story of the original movie.

Flynn Rider deserved better. He’s the sweetest, most selfless Disney male lead. He gave up his life for Rapunzel, gave up his old ways for love, and was ready to commit fully. And in return, he got years of rejection, humiliation, and abuse from someone who once called him her “new dream.”

Disney could have given us a love story for the ages. Instead, they gave us a cautionary tale about how to ruin one.

Which option would you have preferred?

[marie95disneygirl]

How I wanted Rapunzel and Flynn's proposal and engagement to be the first time.

Audio used from those Rapunzel adaptations: Fairytale theater (1983), Grimm's fairy tale Classics (1988), Timeless Tales Rapunzel (1990) (because I forgot those two versions in my last video about the proposals in Rapunzel adaptations) and Barbie as Rapunzel (2002).

All the versions before Tangled respected that the Brothers Grimm intended for Rapunzel to accept her prince's proposal the first time he asked and that Rapunzel wanted marriage and saw it as a liberation. And wanting marriage does not make a female character weak! Disney still respected the original in 2012 when they released Tangled ever after which looked like they married at most a few months after the movie and nowhere did it imply Rapunzel ever rejected his proposal. But then came modern Disney and Sonnenburg who hate Flynn and are jealous of him and wanted him to suffer and be humiliated for years. I will never forgive them that and never see this garbage series as canon. I hate modern Disney.

This video is how I wanted Rapunzel to react to Flynn's proposal, how she should have reacted. With rejected proposals they are a garbage couple and never should have gotten a happy ending. This will never be canon to me. I hate Tangled's trash series and Disney's upcoming trash remake. Disney should just go to hell.

[marie95disneygirl]

A dive into the portrayal of Flynn and Tangled's romance in the disney princess magazines

Back in 2012, they still respected Rapunzel and Flynn as a couple. In the first comic that included Flynn, they were shown holding hands in the kingdom the whole time and the comic literally stated they were so in love and in the German version, it said Flynn took her into his arms at the end. The romance in 2012 still got the respect all the older disney princess couples got.

Then there was a riddle page literally about Rapunzel's wedding preparation also released in 2012 that said the wedding bells were ringing for Rapunzel. I could never imagine something like that being released today.

In 2013, they also still respected the romance and released a comic post movie where Rapunzel still appreciated Flynn's sacrifice and only started missing her long hair because she could not save Flynn when he was stuck in a canyon.

In 2014, they also still respected them as a couple in a New year's eve story where they encourage and support each other and the happy end icon was still shown in the shape of a heart.

They also included another riddle about the wedding preparations. Showing how excited Rapunzel was to tell the thugs she and Flynn were getting married.

In 2015, they already started to misrepresent Flynn and their romance and had a comic set after Rapunzel left the tower for the first time where Flynn was portrayed as a bad boy who kept flirting with the good girl who was so annoyed by him. It literally had Flynn call her sweet puppet. That was clearly frozen's bad influence.

In 2020, they had a comic where it looked like Rapunzel only kept Flynn around so he could pay everything for her while she ignored him mostly. But at least they kept Flynn's character like he was in the movie, didn't dumb him down and didn't have Rapunzel abuse him or reject his proposal or treat marriage as a prison. So, this is still a respectful comic about them.

And then in 2025 until now, they reached the point where Flynn and the romance is just completely erased and Rapunzel is only shown to hang out with Maximus and the thugs. Although I prefer Flynn getting erased over him getting destroyed in absolutely every way. If they have to produce more tangled content in the future, I hope and pray they only do that and finally leave Flynn in peace.

There are of course no more riddles allowed about Rapunzel's wedding since Disney hates marriage nowadays and no other romance riddles either but at least the lantern scene is sometimes referenced and Flynn is still drawn as handsome as he was in the movie and not as unattractive as in that garbage show and if he's erased he at least can't get destroyed or turned into a clown again and in no comic does Rapunzel reject his marriage proposals. Those magazines are still a million times better than the garbage series but it's interesting how they slowly erased Flynn and the romance over the years. Just reflects how disney treated romance and marriage over the years and how they treat Flynn nowadays and I hope they keep erasing him because Flynn should finally be left alone.

Edit: Apparently that comic from the 2020 magazine was from a storybook which was released sooner, in 2016, before Sonnenburg's garbage show came out. That explains everything. Modern Disney surely wouldn't release such cute stories anymore.

[marie95disneygirl]

Rapunzel and her prince (Flynn) in five different universes I still believe (from Cinderella 3) music video made by me.

Rapunzel adaptations used: Rapunzel oder der Zauber der Tränen (1988), Barbie as Rapunzel (2002), Rapunzel (2009), Tangled (2010) and Tangled ever after (2012) (Because only those two tangled movies respect the original Brothers Grimm fairy tale and its message about the importance of marriage in a love relationship) and Into the woods (2014).

I think this song fits the Rapunzel fairy tale so much and the fairy tale was also similar to Cinderella where love and marriage freed the girls from abusive mothers.

It's unfair how all disney princess movies released around that time (Cinderella 3, Enchanted and Princess and the frog) were so pro marriage but the movie based on a fairy tale about the importance of marriage in a love relationship (Tangled) only got a horrible, ambiguous, toxic joke in the end about marriage. They could have fixed that with the wedding short but then they should have stopped and not squeezed in a garbage series which was completely anti marriage into the story and I still refuse to count that canon.

[marie95disneygirl]

💔 Why Every Classic Disney Princess Couple Was Healthier Than Series-Rapunzel and Flynn

Let’s get one thing straight: Flynn Rider deserved better.

In Tangled, he was the most selfless, emotionally mature, and respectful male lead Disney ever gave us. But then the TV series turned him into a punching bag — literally and figuratively — for years, all while rewriting Rapunzel into one of the most toxic love interests Disney has ever produced.

And no — that’s not “trauma.” Trauma doesn’t give anyone the right to abuse their partner. Especially not a partner who has done nothing but love and support them.

Let’s take a look at how every classic Disney couple showed more love, commitment, and mutual respect than whatever that was in the Tangled series:

🍎 Snow White & The Prince

Snow White endured extreme abuse and trauma.

Yet, when she was shown kindness and love by her prince, she embraced it.

She didn’t push him away or punish him for her past.

She also understood commitment — marriage wasn’t a prison, it was part of the fairytale ending.

Compare that to Series Rapunzel, who:

Treated Flynn like a threat to her freedom

Rejected his proposal for years

And only stopped seeing marriage to him as a nightmare after he turned out to be a prince

🥿 Cinderella & Prince Charming

Cinderella also suffered terrible abuse.

But she never mistreated her prince because of it.

She fell for him without knowing he was royalty, based on kindness and connection.

Compare that to Rapunzel, who:

Doesn’t want to marry Flynn until he becomes a prince

Tolerates everyone insulting him

Only reconsiders marriage once he’s revealed to be royal

🌹 Aurora & Prince Phillip

They fell in love believing the other was a commoner.

They didn’t care about crowns, titles, or thrones.

They fought to be together because they loved each other.

Meanwhile, Series Rapunzel:

Literally refuses to marry Flynn until he turns out to be royal

Sees marriage to a non-royal as a trap

Treats status like it matters more than love

🧜‍♀️ Ariel & Prince Eric

Ariel had a controlling, toxic parent too.

But she never projected that trauma onto Eric.

She chose love and commitment.

Marriage was part of her freedom, not a prison.

Ariel and Eric are probably the healthiest Disney couple.

Series Rapunzel, by contrast:

implies marrying Flynn would be like being locked in the tower again

Has literal nightmares about marrying him

Only stops seeing him as a “trap” once he’s a prince

📚 Belle & Beast

Their story started with pain — but it evolved through growth.

Beast learned kindness, Belle responded to it.

She appreciated his sacrifices and chose him after he changed.

Series Rapunzel:

Spits on Flynn’s growth and sacrifices

Draws his face on a punching bag

Treats him (or at least his proposals) like Belle treated Gaston, not the Beast

🕌 Jasmine & Aladdin

Jasmine fell for Aladdin despite his poor background

She rejected royalty if it meant losing her freedom to choose

They fought against a system that told them they couldn’t be together

Series Rapunzel?

Becomes the system.

Doesn’t want to marry Flynn unless he’s royal

Never once defends him from her royal peers’ mockery

⚔️ Mulan & Shang

Even with their disagreements in the sequel, they fought for each other

They both made sacrifices

They had mature conversations and found compromise

Meanwhile, Flynn in the series:

Is the only one compromising

Is lied to constantly

Is shut down and never allowed emotional safety or partnership

🍯 Tiana & Naveen

They chose each other even when it meant staying frogs forever

They worked hard, supported each other, and got married

Money, titles, power — none of that mattered

Series Rapunzel?

Needs royal privilege to feel okay with love

Doesn’t appreciate Flynn until he’s “worthy” in the eyes of her class

Makes zero sacrifices herself — it’s always Flynn

🗑️ Summary: Series Rapunzel & Flynn Are the Worst Disney Couple

Let’s recap what she does:

Lies constantly

Keeps secrets

Lets others insult him to his face

Puts his face on a punching bag

Travels back in time to rewrite his personality

Calls marriage to him a nightmare

Sees being his wife as worse than the tower

And only stops when — guess what — he’s a prince

Flynn deserves better.

He was kind. He was patient. He was respectful. He died for her freedom. He proposed out of love. He supported her dreams.

And in return, he got years of rejection, gaslighting, and public humiliation. All from someone who once looked him in the eyes and said that he was her new dream.

💬 Final Word:

Every older Disney couple understood love, respect, and sacrifice. They didn’t need trauma excuses to justify cruelty. They didn’t trade love for class. And they didn’t wait to commit until their partner was “royal enough.”

Series Rapunzel and Series Flynn? That’s not a love story. That’s emotional abuse disguised as girlboss empowerment.

And Flynn Rider deserves better.