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If my prophesised conquer was standing right in front of me and had just admitted to being my grandson, I would simply kill them. Rip to king Astyages of the Medes but im different

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Astyages ve Medlerin Sonu

Astyages, son Med Kralıdır. Bir gün, bir rüya görür. Rüyasında; kızı Mandane, öyle bir su bırakır ki (burada su bırakmaktan kasıt, işemektir), oluşan suyun içerisinde Astyages boğulur gider. Astyages, hemen bu rüyayı yorumculara anlatır. Yorumcuların (Bunlar Zerdüşt rahipleridir, Med bölgesinde yaşayan Mager Kabilesi mensubudurlar, Batı dillerindeki Magie, Magic (sihir, büyü) kavramı buradan…

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Astyages, son of Cyaxares, now inherited the throne. A daughter was born to him, whom he called Mandane; and Astyages dreamed that she urinated so much that the urine filled his city, then went on to flood all of Asia. He consulted the magi, and was alarmed by the details which he heard from them. Later, when Mandane was already old enough for marriage, he did not give her as wife to any of the Medes who were worthy of him, because he was fearful of the dream, instead he gave her to a Persian named Cambyses I of Anšan, who had a reputation for being a "quiet and thoughtful prince" and whom Astyages believed to be no threat.

In the first year of Mandane's marriage to Cambyses, Astyages had another dream: he dreamed that a vine grew from the genitalia of this daughter, and spread over the whole of Asia. He again consulted the experts on what he had seen, then sent for his daughter to come to him from the land of the Persians. By now she was pregnant. When she arrived he kept her under guard, planning to kill the product of her womb: for the dream-experts among the magi interpreted his dream as indicating that his daughter's offspring would take his place upon the throne.

Astyages sent his general Harpagus to kill the child Cyrus. Harpagus, unwilling to spill royal blood, gave the infant to a shepherd, Mitridates, whose wife had just given birth to a stillborn child. Cyrus was raised as Mitridates' own son, and Harpagus presented the stillborn child to Astyages as the dead Cyrus. When Cyrus was found alive at age ten, Astyages spared the boy on the advice of his Magi, returning him to his parents in Anshan. Harpagus, however, did not escape punishment, as Astyages is said to have fed him his own son at a banquet.

Cyrus succeeded his father in 559, and in 553, on the advice of Harpagus, who was eager for revenge for being given the "abominable supper," Cyrus rebelled against Astyages. After three years of fighting, Astyages' troops mutinied during the battle of Pasargadae, and Cyrus conquered the Median's empire.

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Herodotus pgs. 27-50, 67-69

Question:

Why did Cyrus keep Astyages in his court after taking over that area? After everything Astyages had done, I assumed he would be killed on the spot; what was it that made Cyrus keep him around?

Side note: This act of keeping Astyages in his court is similar to how Cyrus later keeps Croesus around, only Croesus shows aid to Cyrus later; maybe parts taken out of the book show Astyages being of service to Cyrus?

Comment:

Tomyris, the queen of the Massagetae, seemed to be such a strong leader. I loved how she responded to each of Cyrus’ advances and actions. From that basis, I at first thought the Massagetae would be a great people, but after reading some of their practices (sacrificing and eating their elderly, for example), I was pretty disturbed; however, their justifications (although backwards in my opinion) weren’t disturbing, and in a twisted way, nice. I also found that their practices in auctioning the beautiful women and selling the undesired women to be almost like an old version of The Bachelor, which was funny, but disturbing in the objectification of women (something that’s almost a constant in old cultures, it seems).

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