i also don't mean to be a dick, i just want to explain my pov. seeing someone naked doesn't have to be sexual, you're right, but i think that it's fair of me to say that seeing a man forcefully undress a woman and then just watch her naked when he has all the power (he's obviously stronger and probably has a gun) and theoretically could've done anything he wanted made me super uncomfortable
(why is tumblr cutting off the first line????????)
you’re not being a dick at all! I totally hear you and am in no way trying to imply having an emotional reaction to that scene is in any way invalid! my point is more, there’s a difference between a (again, valid) personal takeaway based on your mindset and experiences and an intentional thing the show is saying, and those are two entirely different things but a lot of people like to dress the former up as the latter.
the scene was complicated, no doubt, but I think it very, very clearly and carefully stayed all the way away from sexualizing it in favor of a ferociously loaded moment between two people with a deeply fucked up personal history. furthermore, I think it was an incredibly noteworthy scene bc for one of the first times in their relationship, beth was the one ultimately holding the cards.
you point out that rio could overpower her physically and likely had a gun on him, but I think that only underscores how significant it is that they blocked the scene to have him stepping all the way back and never once hinting at a gun. not only that but the camera work was so deliberately, carefully not male gazey, there were no lingering pans of beth’s body, it was all extremely, tightly focused on their reactions to the moment more than anything else and while those reactions were loaded as all hell, they weren’t sexual (we know manny has an expressive face capable of a thousand micro inferences and there wasn’t even the faintest hint of anything close to a leer or a suggestive eyebrow). those were intentional choices the show made to equalize the dynamic and stay balanced on the razor wire they were walking. obvs, this is just my opinion and ymmv but that was SUCH an ambitious moment to try and play out and I think they nailed it.
idk, like I said, I’m not trying to invalidate your feelings about it. my point was in reaction to people taking that scene and trying to paint rio like some kind of sexual aggressor bc that a) makes me super uncomfortable bc it’s applying hella negative stereotyping that (imo) wasn’t there at all and b) seems a little disingenuous considering there have been numerous instances of rio wielding FAR more power against beth throughout the whole show (including and possibly most especially during the ~golden era of s1 and 2) but those were like, idk, fine i guess?