Do you have a favorite moment in the show? VOCE: Yes, actually. When we all come together in the carnival and we have that, like, stompy, like, get-it-out-of-your-system moment. It’s just any of the moments we’re all on stage, I just love. I just love! I just love it.
Yeah. Okay, wait. So, there was a moment — or, two moments really — that I, I meant to talk to Tina about, ’cause this is what happens on an opening night. [This is what happens.] You’re just like, bada bing, bada boom, bada bing, famously. [Yeah.] And, the — the silhouettes, the human silhouettes. Can you talk about that? VOCE: Yes. I mean, it’s, it’s meant to do exactly what it’s doing to you. Like what’s happening over here, over there? It’s all part of Tina’s amazing storytelling. Like, it’s not — I’m not a director, nothing that I would think of, but like, it really just keeps us in the world of the show, and what’s happening over here, and that life is still happening, no matter what’s happening in your view, or my view, or, you know, so I, I think it’s genius and wonderful.
So, just to like, give a little bit of context, there’s this scene — like, Lizzy McAlpine’s singing and then I turn and I was so blown away. There’s just, like, a human silhouette… VOCE: Skyline of people, just like, like, what conversation are these people having? What are they talking about over there? Is this one doing this? [Gorgeous.] It’s all meant to just tell stories of different people in their, you know, just… mwah.
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Can you describe your character to everyone? VAUGHAN: Describe my character? He’s doing just a little bit of everything, you know? Oh, who are the two old guys in the Muppets? [Yeah.] Who are just watching from the sides the whole time. That, that’s kind of me. That’s kind of what, thematically, what I bring to the story, but, but you know, a little more, a little more heart, but you know, just kind of watching and laughing along with the audience.
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What is it like to just be a delightful person that has to be very stern? KRILL: You know, it’s funny that you’re asking me this. No one’s ever asked me this before. [No way.] No! [Journalist!] I, I — yes, the hard-hitting questions right here. I, I really appreciate you asking, because I as a person, I do think I sort of lead with, like, a smile, and I love to laugh and giggle, and, um, and, uh, and I also don’t necessarily love taking up, like, a lot of space, like, you know. [Yeah.] You know, uh, and, and, and yet for some reason, I’m always called upon to play these men who come in and just take over, like, [unintelligible], and, um, so it’s a really fun exercise for me as, especially as an actor. [Right.] Um, but also maybe a little bit of, as a human being. [Right!] You know, to kind of, uh, find that little part of myself that is actually, it’s okay to take up a little bit more room. So yeah, how about that? [How about that!] So, um, so yeah, but yeah, I, and I, I love this guy, and I love these characters for it. I love H.T. Carmichael because of the fact that he’s not afraid to kind of come in and assert himself and say, “I’m going to get this guy out.”
Right. What, what is like — it feels weird to be like, what, what’s your mission, as like, your actor in this moment, but like, how are you keeping yourself grounded as there are, like, so many things happening in this show throughout your — like with Jeremy’s character, and like, there’s just so much happening, and you have to be like, “Listen to me, I know what I’m doing.” KRILL: Yeah. Uh, the thing that keeps me grounded, the thing that keeps me sort of tethered to, uh, a sort of, uh, truth for him — that isn’t just that he’s, like, a mean, nasty dude coming from outside, of every-, you know, outside of Mammoth Cave — is, uh, the fact that when you really analyze the script, uh, Carmichael just wants what everyone else wants. He wants to free Floyd, right? He’s not necessarily a people person. He doesn’t, you know, I mean, he doesn’t make friends easily, but it doesn’t, that doesn’t make him wrong. [Yeah.] You know, a lot of what he says is actually quite correct. And, uh, and, uh, he, uh… uh, so, yeah, so that’s what keeps me tethered, is that he doesn’t lie. [Right.] And he’s not, he’s not deceiving anyone. He actually wants the same thing as everyone else in the play, is to get Floyd out.
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Your character gives us so much depth, which is, like, really beautiful to see you, like, go like, “I’m going to save my brother, but I also have this, these big dreams of being an actor,” and, like, you are dealing with all these different aspects of being a human in these, like, really tough situations. What is your thought process as you’re getting ready for this show eight times a week? GOTAY: My gosh. Wow. That’s such a great question. There’s so much in here. I think that, you know, before we started, I did so much homework about trapping out — mapping out the character’s trajectory, every scene, how one moment leads to the next, and how Homer’s, um, journey to leaving home is woven through each moment that we’re seeing. And so, once you track all of that, and once I literally write it out and create a map of how one moment leads to the next, then once you get in rehearsal on stage, you just got to get up there and play each moment. Look at every person in the eyes and just tell the story as truthfully as you can.
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Okay, so as a journalist, it was very cool to see your journey in this show and like going from like, “Okay, I’m telling this story,” […] so, you go from this person who’s like, “Okay, I’m on a mission. I’m telling this story,” to like, “Oh, wait. I’m actually going to help out,” to like, “Wait, I’m very personally invested in this.” Like, what is your journey throughout the show like? TRENSCH: Um, it’s a really fun, very emosh…ional. I could have just said the whole word. I don’t know why I abbreviated that. [I really appreciate the abbreviation.] Really fun. Like a career, like a real high point for me. This has been a really special experience, largely because of this ensemble of, like, wildly talented, preposterously gifted, idiosyncratic actors and artists. Um, I feel so lucky to be in a group of these people really, especially with Wade McCollum. There’s, like, a lot of caretaking happening on stage, and also it’s so fun to just watch. There’s so many moments where we get to be on stage and watch the action and that’s been one of the greatest gifts, is like, just watching everybody else be so talented. MCCOLLUM: It’s so true. And watching Taylor Trensch’s performance every night is one of the highlights of my life. It’s true. No, it really is true. It’s spectacular.
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Um, something that I loved is the, um, the, the use of this stage, which, when you first look at it, you’re like, “Okay, simple stage,” […] So, the back, I’m obsessed with the silhouette scenes, and like, the like, you know, the use of the, like, the, the tools, and the stance, like, what is it like — ’cause you, there’s at least one that you’re in the back, right? Doing a, a motion? MCCOLLUM: Yeah, I do a few silhouettes. And it’s fun. I love that part. [Do you?] Yeah. I like being part of the sculptural narrative storytelling, the sort of unexpected circuitous poetry that’s happening, that’s physicalized, and sort of adding to, through abstract shapes that add to the story. It’s really fun, and really, and then to be a part of an ensemble too, where everybody’s really listening, and moving together like a flock of birds. It’s, it’s a really special experience, really. [I love that!] TRENSCH: And it forces — what I love so much about the show is, it forces the audience to imagine. We’re not, like, um, spoon feeding you the cave. You have to, like, really engage and lean forward. And I think that’s, the best theater makes an audience do that.
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Can you tell us what is going through your soul, your energy as you’re performing this? JORDAN: Uh, pretty much every emotion you could imagine. I mean, he, he runs the gamut. I mean, you meet him and he’s just this effervescent, loves life, you know, even though he’s this sort of solitary, you know, quiet figure. I mean, he, he is so happy and so content in his world. And then even when he gets trapped, you know, he’s, he’s like, “Ah, it’s fine. I’ll get out.” [Yeah.] And then as the show progresses, you see him sort of change and go through the gamut of emotions, the sort of, the fear, the reconciliation, the wonder, the, the love, the, the hope, the despair, all the things. It’s, it’s really lovely, and, and, and to do all that through music is, is, um, is a, really a gift.
Yes. One of my favorite things about this show is how you and Lizzy have this beautiful, like, love of, of the weird, of the sparkle, like, the, the crickets, right? JORDAN: Yeah, we, we have this connection that sort of transcends space. [Yes.] Um, like, kind of like a twin energy, almost, where like, we can feel and hear each other, and it’s one of my favorite things to do in the show. It's like, she’s kind of living in her strange ethereal world, and in my mind, that’s her sort of reaching out and connecting, and on occasion I can feel it and grab a part of it and, and feel her there with me, and, um, you know, I can’t, I never get to see her until the end of the show. [Right.] And, but, I feel her with me the whole show, and it’s, it’s really lovely, and I love Lizzy, and it’s been wonderful getting to, like, be a part of her Broadway journey.
I love that. Okay. So, I would be remiss if I didn’t talk about that. I mean, I’m sure you know by now how much of a Newsies fan I am, right? [Sure. Oh, yeah.] Like, it’s pretty, I’m pretty vocal about it. [You got it. Yeah.] Um, and I wanted to make a joke about like, oh, I wonder if we’re going to hear “Santa Fe.” Um, but then we saw, like, a newspaper, like a, like, a newspaper scene, and like, a journalist scene and I was like, “Are, are we getting it?” No, I’m just kidding. But — [Only you would go there.] I would and I did. But, um, like, does it feel like, maybe a — this is a stretch, I’m, I’m letting you know before I ask this question that this is a stretch. [Alright.] Hear me out. But, like, there’s a part of this moment where it’s like, you’re really getting to, like, dig into these roots of, like, what is the story that we’re trying to tell? And, like, the news, the journalist here is — not even just, like, telling the story, but is a part of the story, is, like, really trying to, like, get you out. And it’s not just, like, a love story, it’s like, a friendship love story. And I don’t know, I just was like, I am always going to draw it to Newsies. That’s just, like, who I am. But I was, like, really blown away, of the different type of story from the journalist being like, I’m a part of this, but not in the way you would think. JORDAN: Yeah, I mean, I think, I think that, uh, the journalism aspect of the story is really wild, how they spin the news and how they sort of make it, sensationalize it. And it became, like, the first real media circus in America, and it was all just people watching this guy die slowly. I mean, hoping that he comes out, but like, kind of also being like, “Is he going to die? And am I going to, like, get to be a part of that in a strange kind of way?”
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You and Jeremy Jordan and Jason Gotay have this gorgeous trio, family, moments. Um, and you get to be very, like, fantastical, and the crickets, and I just love that. What is going through your head and your heart in those moments? MCALPINE: My gosh, it’s just so… I mean, I’m barely on stage with Jeremy, like, [Yeah.] where we’re singing to each other and we’re like talking to each other. So when those moments do happen, it’s, it’s just like, I’m just focusing on that, and the fact that, like, this is basically the first time, and the, and the last time that we get to sing to each other, and it’s really special.










