#benelli

[gun-gallery]

Benelli M3 Super 90 - 12 Gauge

[gentlemensarts]

[thafreedomwall]

Old school stuff.

[frenchcurious]

6 cylinders Benelli 750, 1977. - source Classic and Modern Show Cars AU.

[nocternalrandomness]

The Italian made Benelli M3 Super 90 tactical shotgun

[fanaticalravings]

The Conclave Fanfiction Italian Translation Problem

(This got lost in the replies on my other post so reposting here.)

Look, we have a few options here.

Untranslated Italian dialogue, but none of it's significant enough that the conversation can't be understood without it: Works well for short dialogue and single words. Runs the risk of people still having to stop to translate because they can't tell whether it's significant.

Untranslated Italian, but the context, cognates, or replies by other characters make it clear what was said: Feels very natural when done right. I've seen this done to great effect. More often, it still winds up sending the reader to google translate.

Italian dialogue followed immediately by a translation: Probably the simplest solution, though maybe not great for actual Italian readers, but when you're google translating, that's probably the case anyway.

Translations in the end note: better than nothing but can be frustrating while reading because you have to keep scrolling down and back up again and risk reading ahead by accident.

Translations in footnotes: the superior alternative to endnotes. You can actually add html footnotes in Ao3 that automatically take you back and forth from the main text and the translation! A bit fiddly, though.

All in English but it's implied or denoted when characters speak in other languages: maybe the most "honest" but also lacks color and can hinder ability to accurately capture a character's "voice"

Untranslated Italian, but it's intentional that only Italian readers will understand: awesome if that really is your intention, but if you're machine-translating, come on. Just include the original text.

A mixture of options to suit the specific needs and intentions of that moment: the nuanced answer.

My point here is not that everything must be immediately accessible to English language users at all cost.

My point is that if you're already using google translate because you don't speak Italian (or Spanish or Latin for that matter), it's adding opportunity for mistranslations to ask the reader to retranslate each line one by one and it absolutely breaks you out of the story.

I have been enjoying the Italian I've been learning in this fandom, I'd just rather not learn it via the dubious school of google translate.

[junoalice]

it has been six years since I played eosd. not quite how i remember her looking.

[ledepassionne]

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Benelli 6 racer, for your ear's pleasure