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#I'm rereading this rn she was so funny in this book #benny stuff #my post #bernice summerfield #irving braxiatel

I'm so sorry if it's annoying to send you my Benny questions. I just genuinely love your takes on him I'm not trying to be annoying!

Oh, okay! So long as you're okay with it being caught between speculative, and somewhat fatalistic! Every time I go back, I do find something interesting.

#Like #this time #I was quite interested by how much padding and choice-coddling Andrea did for him in basic initial conversation #admittedly to probably try and get him to kill the Top Brass but what an interesting structure!#but still so fascinating that so much was built around her assuaging his guilt and responsibility and choice #i noticed too his tendency to underestimate practically everyone is a HUGE part of his character to the point it's nearly comical #he underestimates almost every guy he meets - with a side helping of ablest denigration or feminizing insult if he can #and i don't think that's a judgment so much as another speculative point in these are the things he can't look at in himself #another thing that surprised me was how late the hostility persisted into purgatory re: vampiric morals #and just how much of dean benny convos consist of loyalty test language way more than i remembered #again - not a judgment - just as a pattern #made me think benny is pricklier and more closed off about... something #and that something makes sense as unnamed war crimes/cruelty in my spec #or the elephant in the room: he can't look at his own mental illness given he takes SHOTS at that a lot for how little screentime he has #and i do think the exploitative choices outside of drinking ppl are his big Achilles heel in a very cool way #and he's not focusing on his past actions in a way that emphasizes actual remorse because that's too painful for him to face #and much like with sam that gets converted into this strange concept of -people keeping him good- he's not digesting his actual actions spe #benny stuff

I'm not going to shoot your idea down! (reposting this ask from my old side blog)

I think that could be interesting because it's asking a cool question:

Can the enterprise of hunting people, even those who deserve to be hunted, ever be a Good thing?

What about when it's carefully, ethically done, out of necessity? Or is it always destined to be rotten because it falls from a rotten tree? Does the bonus of saving others, or sustaining other creatures give it additional moral weight?

If you squint, Andrea wanting to pick up where their father left off CAN sound a lot like Dean with regards to the (dubious) family mission of hunting, which makes her tangentially more interesting to me.

Benny on the other hand verbalizes that he escaped Purgatory to get his revenge; that was his PRIMARY reason for escaping/being/continuing forward. When that's challenged, he sort-of tail spins because he didn't imagine an after... OR what ruins of a person who survived that revenge might happen to look like (forever changed).

Reminds me of this ask a bit:

💬 0 🔁 2 ❤️ 10 · Can you expand more about what you mean when you say angels are scaled up hunting? As an enterprise angels are imho much m

And this quote:

"As exquisite as the natural world is, however, there exists a violent underbelly that, for some reason, mostly goes unnoticed...In point of fact, the survival of any one species depends entirely on how successfully it's able to willfully kill--and usually eat--its neighboring species. Even human vegans and vegetarians survive by the demise of plants. Moreover, if you're wearing clothes as you read this, you're wearing death." -Randall R Scott from Entanglement is Not Spooky

I may not be the best person to answer these asks, because I'm not as interested in some are in Benny's internal world. (I know, it's very hypocritical of me, since I like both John and Sam, but Benny's flat fatalism is a lot of of a barren landscape for me to wrap my head around.)

But as per your question, would he be a Bad guy? I think given what he see out of him, he'd be a Very (Sam-coded) Rationalizing Guy. In Purgatory, we get a glimpse of Dean chatting about Benny's reasons for going topside:

Benny rationalizes the crimes of vampires here:

BENNY: “Yep. And I think we both know which of our kinds kills more humans.” (i.e. My/our crimes are a drop in the bucket)

And pre-Benny saving Cas, it's VERY obvious that Dean is (perhaps via the script, correctly) thinking Benny's a lost cause:

DEAN: “What the hell do you know about the value of life? You're a vampire.”

BENNY: “I get it. You're worried what I might do if we make it topside. I'll start eating your little piggies. I already told you, man – by the time I got iced, I was strictly on blood transfusions, donated blood. Not donated to me, I'll give you that, but I paid good black-market scratch for it.” (i.e. I sustain the black market, but I don't do the crime directly.)

Interesting aside/// This might imply he was too afraid to drink Andrea, which makes a sort of sense. I got an ask about this too about a month ago, and I think it supports that Good Vampires don't bite, because biting isn't safe for their friends and loves ones to do so. This implies Benny wouldn't risk her, which is very interesting too!

#actually putting in an effort today to answer some of the old asks and i am SO sorry i wasn't ignoring you i'm just lazy #benny stuff #andrea stuff #and again #i think this is the POWER of the werther box.. because the Real benny would be very very very pro-killing dean... that's the painful truth #that's what sets dean's family apart from him #dean's rejection is his own choosing of himself #the complicated business of vigilantism