“...then I guess I love him.”
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“...then I guess I love him.”
Santa Pongsapak as Wiew Between us, ep 10
There's another thing that kills me.
The way Win kissed him in their room. That didn't look like his *i am so hungry for you* look. Those kisses were SO, SO SOFT. Like he was trying to speak with kisses what he couldn't spell in actual words 😭
(too bad Team unfortunately needs a much more direct approach right now.
There has been this undefined thing between them, hanging in the air for months now. I know Win thinks he's speaking, but Team isn't fluent in that language. His own fears stop him. How many times has he hidden a smile and touched a spot that Win kissed, with the most hopeful smile on his lips? He even scolds himself "why are you hoping?" because he thinks this is just Win being Win and he is reading too much into his actions)
Now that Win and Team are happy, I have the strength to ponder episode 10 more. So here’s a post of my thoughts about why Team kept pushing Win away.
Team has admitted that he loves Win, and Pharm encourages him to express that to Win.
But Team is also convinced that it’s not going to end well if he does ask him to define their relationship.
Still, he decides to take Pharm’s advice and talk things out… eventually. And why does he wait? Well, imo he thinks there’s a high probability that Win is going to reject him, which means he’s going to lose someone irreplaceable, someone who means the world to him.
So he’s trying to prepare himself for this loss by shoving Win out of his life: telling him to go back to his own room after being sick, saying that he doesn’t want to share a room with him at Kanchanaburi, walking away after sharing a romantic and loving kiss by the river.
Because he’s gotten used to Win being in his life, and now he’s trying to ease the transition to being alone again, to create distance so that he can appear normal after shattering.
Because he always tries to look normal. He’s always saying he’s fine. Even after he drowns, even after he’s been having nightmares in the hallway outside Win’s room, even the morning after he’s been crying outside in the rain for hours. But if he loses Win, he might not be able to keep up that facade anymore.
And so maybe that’s why he runs away at the end of episode 10. Because he can’t brush everything off and appear okay. And if Win doesn’t want to be his lover then he shouldn’t be burdening him with his heartbreak.
And the beautiful and brave thing about Team is that even though he runs away once, he doesn’t run away again. In episode 11 he rips his heart out and gives it to Win, all his fears and love included. And the beautiful thing about this show is that this love confession - that’s raw, messy, marred with insecurity, but so incredibly truthful - is exactly what Win needed to hear to know how much he means to Team.
This sweet sequence of Team taking care of his Hia is just so endearing, it just warms my heart so much!! 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
NOW CONFESS TO EACH OTHER!!!
I about threw my tablet in frustration after watching today's episode. These two are trying to kill us. Just tell each other!! Put your worries aside and just do it! Take the chance you'll be surprised by eachother answer.
Between Us Pontification - Episode 10
Ok, ya girl has had a little bit of time to sleep and rewatch Episode 10.
(Am I still miffed, yes. To the ends of the earth.) And here are my thoughts...there are a lot.
However, I think it's important (and other tumblrs have likened to this already) to keep in mind that our beautiful idiots, so full of love that they throw at others, leaving nothing for themselves, do not know how to ask for what they need; What they want and also believe that they deserve it.
Team is dealing with basically a decade of untreated survival guilt and in some ways is afraid that his love for Win is a projection simply because Win is good to him and makes him feel wanted, precious, and loved. Especially when his Aunt still grieves (and also needs some damn therapy) and probably has made way too many comments about what could have been her son's life. Team is living for two people, not even content to do it, but as a kind of forced repentance for something we all know is not his fault. And his self-loathing is manifesting as insecurity, low esteem when it comes to worth, and pushing Win away to stop himself from loving any harder, deeper, or truly in fear of loss and disappointment. But with Win, he needs certainty, clearest of day level clarity of how their relationship is defined.
And then there is Win. Sweet little competent middle child king. As someone who is also the 2nd sibling, I am painfully aware of how much pressure, expectations, and loneliness is wrapped up in it. How the only way to remain sane is to be useful and self-sufficient. Wiew is baby but a fiercely loyal one (as he should be, I love that precious nugget), and Waan is crumbling under the suffocating role he is being forced to play by his crappy workaholic father who has lost the plot in more ways than one. He needs to give that man a raise and a 3-week long vacation (with Tul there to just smile at him and play video games) and stop yelling so damn much. These three need a hug, a nap, and a break. But I digress.
Back to Win, he is a giver. Hyperindividualism manifested as the kind mediator, the soft but strong protector. He sends out all the love he never gets to keep for himself and doesn't expect anyone to stick around. He has crafted this self-fulfilling prophecy and doesn't hold tightly to anyone. Waan has even mentioned to him that his kindness could turn into something that hurts him and the ones we love, which is what we end up seeing in Episode 10. Because with Win, what he needs is someone who looks at him and tells him that he is loved not for what he provides but for just being him. Someone who wants to refill the empty cup he has been pouring from.
This is a story about reciprocation and fear of abandonment. A song of isolation and anxiety.
The confession scene for many of us was not what we wanted because we have the sweetness in UWMA that we know is on the horizon. Death by a thousand cuts, is what we are getting. But the point of Between Us is to show the complete road of how our boys with horny hearts of gold go from being in two very different types of emotional exile to a supportive and loving relationship. And I would be remiss if I didn't remind myself and others that this is their FIRST serious relationship. These boys have little to no previous experience with big feelings and taking that leap and hoping the one they love is jumping with them and simultaneously catching them at the same time.
Its a terrifying and heartwrenching saga to go through in the best of scenarios and there is so much hurt, unsureness, and need to be wrapped up and it can be scary if you are waiting for the other shoe to drop while, in tandem, praying for it not to. And in a way, both Win and Team need this kind of tension and to be forced to make solid steps forward.
Unfortunately, Win must have a moment of fear, of being confronted by the consequences of the cavalier nature he has curated. His coolness, the aloof cat-like humility that makes him so darn unattainable. He has to be vulnerable instead of hesitating and testing the waters again. He must cannonball into the depth. And Team, in direct parallel and in some ways opposition, must learn to accept that he is loved and is worthy of love. To not be afraid of being too much, of burdening someone he finds important with his affection, of handing over his feelings and feeling the reciprocation. He must trust that someone swimming with him isn't going to end in pain and loss again.
And that brings us to the emotional rollercoaster at the end of Episode 10. This is called the Black Moment or the Defining Moment when we look literarily at this story arc. Internal conflict must be confronted and we all must accept that we are gonna get a whole lot of big feelings in the last two episodes.
Have faith, intrepid travelers, and keep your arms and feet inside the vehicle at all times.
petition to complain ask Studio Wabi Sabi to change the english subtitle for Between Us ep10 from "Man Up" to "BE BRAVE ABOUT IT" as rightly it was in UWMA.
on a side note: I had checked a bit of english to thai translation on google (in Google translate isn't that great but oh well) and the translation of "Be Brave About It" sounds closer to what Boun said than "Man Up".
Between Us ep 10
They are so CUTE. I can't.
Also I wanted Teams parents to meet Win and I got it.
Oh my Polish heart, Tul has a Witcher 3 poster on his wall! I know the game is super popular but still it is so nice to see.
CUTE
Oh, Team baby baby.
YASSS, Finally we are in the resort!
However it is kinda funny how clearly it is a very different place than in UWMA.
DEAN You know better than that! Why put Team in uncomfortable situation! AWKWARD
Win looks so soft this whole ep.
Sooo I was not signing myself for crying Team and crying Win, when I started watching this ep.
CATCH HIM NOW
Are you kidding me. I was waiting for this plot part this whole series and now you still cannot make them SAY things they shoudl have said like 4 ep ago. I am mad, this show do not need (and characters do not deserve) so much plot dragging.
I will go back and just watch UWMA.
(so from trailer it looks like it is just a cliffhanger and Win will catch Team, I mean of course he will, but the point of dragging the plot still stands)