#biantagonism

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Do you think cis bisexuals can have cishet privilege?

Speaking as someone who has no access to the closet: The closet is still not a privilege.

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dorkinlesbian mentioned you on a post “This is something that has been really irking me. The whole being...”

@wetwareproblem I don't know what you are referring to sorry. I don't remember making a proposal outside of stay out of inter community issues If you are not part of the community

@dorkinlesbian

Not gonna put that whole thread on this blog because Reasons, but... look at the other lesbian in that thread. The one who unironically accused “bihets” of “colonizing lesbianism” because they dared to - gasp! - be attracted to trans women.

She was literally redrawing the boundaries of “lesbian” to exclude trans women and anyone who recognizes them as women.

And in that context, you showed up to say that this should be a lesbian intracommunity issue.

If you’re not going to take issue with “lesbian” being defined as “transmisogynistic,” that is not a good-faith argument.

It’s a silencing tactic.

Signed, a pissed-off and fucking tired trans lesbian.

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Gay/lesbian people are oppressed under biantagonism. It’s their ability to be attracted to genders other than the prescribed one that causes their oppression. I’m not saying homo/lesboantagonism aren’t things, but they’re just discrimination, not systemic oppression.

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acetyleni replied to your post:

Is this a sarcastic turn around on "biphobia is just homophobia/biphobia doesn't exist/bi people aren't oppressed for being bi"? Otherwise I can't figure out what this post is saying

It’s actually nearly word-for-word from a “bi/panphobia isn’t real!” post I saw earlier today. It’s half sarcastic turnaround, half “This is an incredibly shitty argument and it’s still more valid than the one they’re actually making.”

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I'm afraid to call myself bi anymore. Me and some other bi friends keep being called being transphobes JUST because we're bi, or being told we're actually pan because we like genders besides cis. There's so many posts about how bi is wrong and outdated, it's gotten so confusing and I don't know what to call myself anymore. Is there even a difference?

That’s ridiculous and I’m sorry you’re dealing with it. Bisexuality means attraction to two or more genders, that’s all; it is those other people who are being transantagonistic when they insist that attraction to non-cis people means you can’t be bi. And yes, there is a distinction; pansexuality, as currently defined, is “attraction to all genders” or “attraction regardless of gender.” Ayin has pointed out before that, according to the “you must be pan!” worldview, it does not have a valid sexuality - it is attracted to people of a variety of genders, but not to men or masculine people.

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Irony: @sapphic-cake-baker, who you may remember recently trying to force me under a label that I had literally just finished telling her I have a history of abuse with, rolled on to another of my posts to support attacking queer people over literal appropriating straights. Because “queer is a slur.”

That’s right: By REG logic, I cannot choose my own identity because it might make someone else uncomfortable, but they can choose it for me, no matter how uncomfortable it makes me.

Fucking hypocrites. This is why nobody believed your claims that you were “only” shitting on aces. This is why so many trans and bi people, particularly older ones, are so vehemently standing with our a-spec siblings. Because we know that lie. We’ve been there before. And if we tolerate any gatekeepers at all, we’ll find ourselves on the outside next.

That and, y'know, they are our siblings and deserve our solidarity.

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Just saw some anti-ace rhetoric from a mutual; funny how it's the same person who tried to tell me before that i probably wasn't bi, just a lesbian in denial. =_=

Gee, it’s almost like it’s the Usual Suspects making the usual arguments.

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Oh, that's fair. I didn't know you were thinking of actual bigotry within the LGBT community. I was thinking of when people say bisexuals are greedy or confused, that sort of thing. And I was like, "if you have a disorder or other condition that makes it hard for you to not jump to conclusions, I understand that, but not everybody does."

Yeah, no. Jumping to conclusions is one thing, and should be avoided. But valid pattern matches are something tht should be solved (if a solve is needed!) by breaking the pattern.