Possible tw: transphobia Guys, I kinda need your help. So during the "Feministic Liberationfestival" here in Norway, the panel were asked if they included trans women aswell when they used the word "women". Julie Bindel and Rachel Moran "answered" this, but some seem to misunderstand what they said. So I wrote it down. I would very much like it if you could help me by saying if this is transphobic or not? Question from the audience(me): When you use the word "women, do you include trans women aswell, or just cis women. Moran: I don't identify as a cis women, I have to say and I don't appreciate being labeled by anybody else. I don't..I'm not..I'm a woman. I'm not a cis woman, I'm a woman." Q: It was for the panel, you(Moran) were the only one who mentioned the word trans, that's why I asked. Bindel: I'm on the board of SPACE International and we support absolutely anyone who is abused and exploited within the sex trade. That includes trans men, trans women, children, adult men, adult women, whoever. And in fact we've had some great support from some trans women who have talked about the pro sex work lobby tried to make the two issues indivisible. So this mantra that the majority of sex workers are trans, therefore if you are against sex work, you are transphobic has to be knocked on its head, 'cause it's really affecting the human rights of those trans people who wish to exit the Sex trade, or not have the story written for them in this pro Sex work way. I'd like to say something about the term cis woman. I have no problem whatsoever with somebody saying to me "can you explain wether you are a trans woman or not", or a woman who was born female. Nothing at all. The problem with the term cis for feminists, is that the women's movement, at least my women's movement, was built upon the notion that gender is a social construct, and that gender hurts women very badly, girls and women. Because it is a total and utter fallacy, that we are somehow growing up softer, weaker, more emotional, less capable than men. Gender benefits men, greatly, because it says that men are more powerful, more privileged, stronger etc. So I'm a gender abolishonist, so to say that, as a cis woman, I...this is the description of cis, is that you are born into a body, where you feel comfortable with your gender" No, the fact is that women became feminists because they hate gender rules imposed on us*applause* so how could we possibly be happy with a gender rule that is imposed upon women, we hate it. And that is my problem with the term cis, but I think the wider question is, do we support trans people, absolutely, and we want more trans people to come forward and say, the sex trade is harmful" *applause* So what do you think? (Link to my blog were this is taken from, that also includes a link to the audio clip.)