#blueskyportrait

[moltensmusings]

you are spot on about Yang becoming masculinized. And I also want to add a similar changed happened to Blake but in the opposite direction. Blake does have a feminine charm to her, but she's outspoken about the oppression of the faunus. She's not afraid to square up to Weiss and confront her racism head on.

But now after vol 6 she's practically meek, soft spoken, and submissive. Her fire is gone. I do believe there is bias in place, especially when making bumbleby canon. Someone has to be the man of the relationship so it had to be Yang. Blake was left to be the woman and was changed to fit the role

I think it has a lot to do with the writers thinking that making Blake feminine and softer is the best way to show she's changed rather than leaning into the traits she possesses and building on them. While Blake can be outspoken she's also more withdrawn than the other characters. She has a bit of crossover with Ren in that aspect.

I think her coming off as more standoffish slightly meek upon reunion in a way could've worked if we had the group with tension upon her arrival. If she wasn't just immediately accepted back then her being unsure of how to bridge a gap because socializing isn't her strong suit would've worked.

Honestly I think going for a more hardheaded and "stand your ground" Blake who doesn't bend would've made much more sense for how they shaped her story in canon after the events of volume 6. I think that paired up with Yang who to me always read as the smooth talker in the group could've allowed for some fun duo dynamics where Blake was more quick to jump to the point vs yang who was more willing to worm her way towards it.

But for sure they upped her feminity in weird ways. Honestly in general I haven't been the biggest fan of her writing (which has a lot to do with not liking writing for the faunus in general). I feel like the idea of "cat=feminine" has embedded itself in the writers and fandom the same way "physicality=masculine" has. And yang being taller than blake also colors opinions.

[doevademe]

What are some criticisms against Percabeth? I'm curious because I never had an issue with them during the original pjo series. Its Hero's of Olympus where is get kinda weird for me

I'll start with PJO and then move on to HoO, because while I have my criticisms of PJO Percabeth, HoO Percabeth is... uff.

Also under a read more because this gets long, and to minimize upsetting people.

Okay, so my main issue in PJO is how boring they are as a couple. This is a me problem, of course, but Percabeth is just the smart girl teasing/softly bullying the protagonist boy. They are as scheduled as a train stop. You know form the first moment where it's going to go, how it will get there, what the interactions will be like, and if you think this is a writer thing, I started reading these books when I was 13, and even then I considered the pairing most cliché thing ever.

I have two actual criticisms for PJO Percabeth, though. The first is how their romance is centered around Annabeth insulting Percy. I mean, her main nickname for Percy is a constant reminder that he's seen as stupid, which Percy is not, despite common fandom interpretation. She's also constantly punching him and belittling him, and yeah, she's a teenager and they are just friends being a little rough on each other, but if Percy was the one doing it, that wouldn't fly with the fandom at large, and it doesn't fly with me when Annabeth does it, either.

The second criticism is that they have nothing in common aside from shared experiences as demigods. If Percy had quested with Clarisse or Drew, he'd have the same things in common with them as he has with Annabeth in canon. In all of PJO they never have a conversation that's not centered around being a demigod. They don't share hobbies, interests or even talents. Percy is shown to like stuff like skating, swimming and other physical activities, Annabeth is a bookworm who loves architecture and puzzles. There's no intersection there. Once they are in college in New Rome, safe from monsters, what do they even talk about? Their only scene not demigod related is having plans to see a movie in BotL, something they don't have to talk to do (and that they never end up doing). EDIT: Oh, also, Annabeth infodumping on architecture, but Percy considers this white noise and he constantly ignores her talking about her passion, so... yeah, I don't count it as an actual conversation since he never engages back.

HoO Percabeth has these problems too, but it's much worse because they are actually together now. Annabeth is shown in her very first POV to be very manipulative (reminding Percy he almost dated Rachel to make him uncomfortable and "keep him in line"), violent (the Judo flip), and needy to an almost codependent degree (she makes Percy disappearing all about her, how it made her feel, how much it hurt for her), and Percy just goes along with it.

Their conversations are also repetitive and boring, because discussing the demigod quest is now a group thing with the rest of the Seven, their one-on-one conversations are all about how in love they are, how they want to spend their lives together, how they can't live without each other. It feels more like what keeps them together is their shared experiences and traumas, rather than any sort of chemistry or shared goal aside from a generic "staying together forever".

I'm okay with it as a friendship, because sometimes you can call your friend a jerkwad and just laugh it off, because you both now you don't mean it. People also have tons of school or job friends they have nothing in common with except for spending nearly 8 hours together daily in the same building, but as a romance? I was never convinced, more resigned to the fact that it would happen.

[dragynkeep]

*Ruby seeing WBY+Jaune approaching* "Oh hey guys. Let me readjust my position on the floor so I can look tragically sexy for the perverted beta looking men on the writing team while I 0ff myself in front of you"

when the show infamously bad for handling suicide still manages to avoid the sexualization of suicide allegations in everything else wrong with those scenes, it might be that rwby just has a problem. or is just written by men with dicks for brains.

i have a lot of issues with hannah's suicide scene but what i will say is what we get when we focus on her character & not the shock factor, is haunting. hannah is broken, she has nothing left to keep her going & you see it in her eyes & even when she's committed the act, that haunting feeling sticks with you. you're watching a life being lost & you're desperate to save her.

also absolutely do not google this, they have graphic screencaps of the suicide method featuring blood in the first few images.

but then when we get to ruby's suicide, she's posed absolutely ridiculously & all we can think is why aren't her friends rushing to save her? there is a good amount of time between ruby making eye contact & then slowly sipping the drink: if you compare that to hannah's suicide, the frustration builds because hannah is alone. she is alone physically & she's alone emotionally, there is no one to save her in this moment. ruby had 4 people to save her or at least try.

this isn't heartbreaking or haunting, it's goofy. ruby looks stupid here & even more so when there's the sexualization angle of it because god forbid she exist as an emotionally broken teenager without the grown men behind the show ripping her outfit over her breasts & then having her pose basically in a sensual lounge.

booo, boo tomato, boo!

[takaraphoenix]

How do you come up with so many story ideas!? I'm so amazed at how many percico and percy jackson related fics you've written!

Oh gods, I hate answering that question, because there is no answer *laughs amused*

I can’t explain how I get ideas. I just... always get them. An average of like five new ideas a week, the majority getting canned due to being too raw, too similar to something else or simply because I only have two hands and not that much time. *grins amused*

But thank you for the compliment ;3

[doevademe]

I swear The Sun and the Star will be my villain origin story.

I'm just at the point where its very bizarre writing decisions stopped making me angry and just made me laugh.

For me, tsats was a comedy, there's a point where you can't take it seriously anymore, and I passed it when Nico made references to Lil Nas X and made out with Will while Bob sobbed in the background.

[doevademe]

Such a shame ever since Rick paired Nico with a background character, it killed new content for percico

It is. Honestly I'm just surprised at how readily people ate it up.

Like, Voltron: Legendary Defender was rightfully criticized for it when Shiro married a random guy who had only appeared on background shots and had a brief scene in an episode about side characters (he was only named by the subtitles!), but with Nico? People were so excited over a nothing character being paired with him.

I don't want to assume, but I believe this happened because most people have this rose-colored image of Percy and Annabeth, and they were oh so ready to hate on everyone not toeing the line (see, how the fandom at large treats Rachel, Drew, and any character who shows a modicum of attraction to Percy, as well as said characters' fans) that it was just... easier to move on to the safe canon pairing and just... imprint whatever personality they wanted on Will to make the ship to their liking. Gods know Rick never gave him any anyway.

[doevademe]

I shall defend your honor if a cancel mob ever comes your way

Thank you, I appreciate it. I know I'm not alone with these fandom hot takes (that are lukewarm at best), but certains parts of this fandom get really defensive over canon (and for what? It's not like people disliking it makes it any less canon)

Also, because I must ruin everything with memes...

[doevademe]

What are Nico and Percy's favorite anime?

There are three answers here: Their favorite anime to watch together, their personal favorite anime of all time, and their favorite "current" anime (as in, no older than a few years).

Favorite to watch together is One Piece. It's fun, adventurous, and it has pirates and seafaring, so it appeals to both of them. They usually stop watching it for a few months and then just binge all they have missed.

Nico: favorite of all time is Saint Seiya, it appeals to his inner mythology nerd, and has a lot of very handsome men in intense fights and deep brotherhood. What's not to like? Current? Probably Jojo, I see him getting really into it and taking all its ridiculousness very seriously.

Percy: Favorite of all time is probably DBZ. Super basic, I know, but Percy is the kind of guy who loves cool action scenes and fights, and DBZ is all about turning up the action to 11. Current is Chainsaw Man, because the visuals are cool and the dark humor is right up his alley.