#rwde

[sophieabigail2021]

"How fandom react to criticism" wheel

[spectralpixelsredone]

Look Jaune isn't my favorite that goes to Ruby but I can 100% agree he works better as Cinder's arch enemy by a long shot and why Ruby falls to the wayside.

[chaucer-blackwood]

RWBY "Critics" and Tropes

Most of the "criticism" of RWBY ultimately amounts to tropes and expectations, not the quality of the show itself.

Now are there legitimate issues with RWBY's story? Absolutely. Pacing, cast bloat, lack of planning, dialogue...

But that's not what people talk about. They talk about the tropes they wanted to see and are mad weren't used.

Why is Adam a bad character? Because "misunderstood and misguided anti-hero who fights for a good cause and gets redeemed" is a popular trope people thought was going to be used and they got mad when it wasn't.

Why do people still argue Ironwood was right? Because "strong man making morally grey choices for the greater good" is a popular trope and people got mad that it wasn't how Ironwood was treated. Never mind that his actions only ever made things worse and that narratively, he exists to show why that kind of thinking fails, it's a trope they expected to see and got mad that it wasn't there.

Why is Ruby a "bad protagonist"? Because "wide-eyed ingenue who gets their idealism broken and has to 'grow up' into a more cynical version of themself to save the day" is a trope they like and expected to see. Never mind that one of RWBY's core themes from the beginning has been rejecting cynicism and embracing heroism, it's a trope they like and got mad that it wasn't used.

Everything the "critics" say about RWBY basically boil down to them not liking the actual theme of the show and getting mad that it wasn't an entirely different show with a completely different tone, genre, and theme that they would like better.

[thatguythatdrawsalot]

I live for character interactions with variety of different personalities, especially in RWBY.

Well done RWBY Dust Queen, you made me fall in love with the team again in giving them such personality through dialogue and animation that I missed for so long.

[sundaed]

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[matt0044]

“Toxic Positivity” is a cop out when someone’s negative take on something is challenged.

They go on about how fans “can’t take criticism towards their faves” until the detractor is criticized for their criticism.

Oh sure, the one responding to the criticism might lack a bit of tact to put it generously but that doesn’t mean they might not have a point or that their views shouldn’t be considered.

But the accusation of “Toxic Positivity” to me comes off as, “I am never budging an inch on my stance and you are the problem for trying to.”

[asm5129]

I was trying to give Fixing RWBY an honest shot just so I could best have my own arguments concerning it, and while I still plan to make my way through it i was using nitter to scroll through his posts on twitter and found out that he has repeatedly targeted @tumblingxelian personally. And not in the sense of discussion or concern like my work on hbomerguy’s video—no, this is mean. Spiteful. You can tell by the posts and the thumbnails alone that this is not about anything but being angry someone makes an effort to regularly praise the parts of RWBY they love.

Any good faith i was attempting to go in with (on principle, and to have the most objective criticisms of the material rather than merely taking common FNDM criticisms as my own) has been lost by this discovery.

To me this is far more damning of his character than a shitty fanfic.

https://nitter.net/Raymond_McNeil/search?f=tweets&q=Xel

[grayskyzephyr]

Every since Sheena came out with some insight with the stuff she worked on for vol 2 of rwby, and what she hinted at before posting her work, I always think back.

The rwby stans who use Monty's tweet "Dont insult my friends" to shut down criticism of Rwby, Miles and Kerry, and RT. Using a dead man's words to posthumously shame anyone for daring to think their precious show is not perfect because you're being so mean to Monty's friends! How dare you! They're trying their best to continue his legacy!

I always think "if the people in Crwby and RT were really Monty's friends, why didnt they stand by Sheena when she was being forced out of production? Why didn't they defend her when those nasty rumors spread that she killed her husband with cat allergies?"

The only person who was openly on her side was Shane and he was demonized as well by RT and the fandom as a a whole. Calling them both hysterical and irrational because of their grief. (How rich of RT not escaping the sexism allegations calling Sheena the hysterical wife)

Some "friends" Monty had.