(1) Hi! :) I just saw the post you reblogged about the industry and the closeting, etc and I have a genuine question because I really don't understand and sorry if it's stupid sksksk- so if we take a louis, for example, his relationship with El are quite private and we know almost for a fact that they live together and go to a pubs together (locals saw them, not the fans),and plus the fans saw them together and kissing while no one was there...I don't think it's how a fake relationships works?
(2)Like with Danielle u could see that it was fake but with El it seems genuine, Louis even said that they went to see Jay together, why would Louis lie about that? Or they do all these things on purpose or something, to make he seem more genuine so people won't question it and definitely believe that they are together?
(3) like idk, to me it's easier to just do a pap walks every now and then but why would he live together with supposed beard? And go to a pubs and to clubs and stuff while no one there? That's just weird to me.
Nice to meet you and thanks for questioning with an open mind.
Of course, it’s clear I have a different opinion, and I’ll try to explain why.
Louis’ relationship with Eleanor is not what i would call quite private - it kicked off with a very public, staged pap shoot - and early on there was much confusion on the start date of that relationship - they couldn’t seem to remember when the anniversary is or how they met (eg did Harry introduce them? Or not?)
“Almost know for a fact” they live together: how? For me, photographs with dogs are not proof of living together. I invite you to share other evidence and I’ll be happy to have a look at it.
Please also feel free to share any hard proof you have found of them kissing “while no one was there” and going to pubs together. I am afraid I am not aware of it.
On Louis lying: well, closeting involves lying, so he would lie about that, yes. And that’s done, indeed, to make it seem more genuine. That is the essence of what closeting is. Lying to make it look like you are in a relationship with a woman and therefore heterosexual. It’s not pretty. It is what it is. This is life for LGBTQ+ people, whether Louis is one of us or not: a choice between lying (in the case of some bi people in different sex relationships, like me, by omission) and potentially subjecting yourself to prejudice and/or abuse. That’s usually not what happens, most people are okay, and times have definitely changed, but it’s the culture we were raised in, and this impacts us.
I honestly do not think he lives together with Eleanor. Suggestions are made to make it look that way. But as long as I have been following fandom, he has shown no genuine interest in her, he is more engaged with fans than he is with her. He defended her at the airport though: rightly so, and good for him. He is a decent guy.
As to going to pubs and clubs “when there is no one there” - there is always someone there in those pubs and clubs as that’s how it gets to the fandom - and more often than not (but you’d have to point me to specific evidence of specific instances) fans have been tipped off that they will see Louis there. At least in the cases that I have seen, but again, feel free to show me otherwise.
I am sorry if this argument is vague, that’s in part because yours are equally general and vague - the more specific evidence you can point me to, the better I can answer you - depends on how much you want to know.
Please also look at my bearding tag, and to other people who are much more knowledgeable and have much more to say about Eleanor, Elounor, and the entire bearding thing than I do.
The thing is: don’t take it at face value. Dare to look at all the evidence - for Louis being with Harry and Louis being with Eleanor; And come to your own conclusions.
Also: if you were Eleanor, would you take him back after having been publicly dumped by a kiss in a swimming pool coming out; your boyfriend then having gotten a one night stand pregnant, only to start dating Danielle, until he “came to his senses” and wanted you again? Is that the kind of guy you think Louis is? Or do you think he’s kind, and loyal, and not perfect, but someone who fights for his long time relationship with someone who is also his best friend and bandmate? That he has actually been proven to live with #welivetogetherdealwithit #alwaysinmyheartyourssincerelylouis.