#centrelink

[abuzd]

they're really just trying to "Phase Out" being disabled "post-covid" huh 👀

[cy-cyborg]

Big vent about Centrelink and Australia’s welfare system ahead.

I’ve known for a long time how cold and uncaring Australia’s welfare system is, especially Centrelink, but I don’t think it really clicked until today.

Im on the disability support pension meaning the government acknowledges I can not work full time. A few years ago, I messed up on some forms and never declared to them that my partner and I were in a relationship. I had meant to, but had a moment and forgot to hand them in. By the time I realised my mistake it was years later. Just before Christmas I went in to fix it and to get help with the forms because I always panic when I do Centrelink forms, I always miss something or misunderstand, I always do something wrong, so this time I went in for help with it. My partner and my support worker came with me to help make sure I was understanding everything, and to make sure I remember what they told me, because I tend to forget more when stressed.

Because my partner is an immigrant and self employed but not earning much, the process actually ended up being a bit more complicated so we’ve had to go in to do the forms over multiple appointments with the last one being last Thursday.

I was informed that because I didn’t declare the relationship right away, I’ve been overpaid and I’ll have to give that overpay amount back because, fun fact, just being in a relationship is enough for them to cut your payments here - not being married, just in a relationship. I knew that though and was prepared for it. At the last appointment I was finally given an estimate of how much I need to pay back.

It’s over $20,000.

I’m not entirely sure how they got that number, I’m going to ask for a break down of it once the amount is confirmed, but you want to know what sucks? I was relieved to hear that amount. I was mentally prepared for it to be double or triple that, and it would have been if the worker at the office didn’t pull me up and inform me I’d misunderstood some of the questions (so yeah, going in for help was a good call). Thankfully, because the disability support pension is already below the poverty line even before the cuts they made, I don’t have to pay it back at once, they’ll take a percentage of my pension out every fortnight to pay it back. Unfortunately, because I’m already below the poverty line, reducing my pension even further means I can’t afford rent anymore, even in a place that is already way, WAY below the current rental market value, so I can’t really afford rent…anywhere. Not even in remote and regional areas (I checked). Not a single private rental in the country is low enough for us to afford now. The only ones that were close weren’t wheelchair accessible. The pension will also go down if my partner earns anything, and it limits his hours (though I don’t know how that’s supposed to work if he’s self employed since pay isn’t really based on hours like typical jobs, I’m going to ask about that at the next appointment). Thankfully we had already planned for that and we’re planning to move in with my mum, but that means basically being cut off from the internet since her place is very rural and signal doesn’t really reach their place consistently.

But the shittyness doesn’t end there, oh no.

Today, I woke up to the dreaded “you have a myGov message” text. Only to open it and for them to tell me that they’re cutting my whole disability pension, it was just canceled. No ifs or buts, it was just gone. A few days before rent and all my bills are due. What was the reason you ask? Because one of the fields (asking for my partner’s tax info) on the form wasn’t filled out… the form I got the Centrelink office to check over before handing it in, that was definitely filled in. I know it was. There wasn’t even any “we’re missing information, you have x amount of time to fix this or your payment will be cancelled” warning, it was just, you didn’t fill out this one field that could be easily fixed so your pension is canceled, and you have to pay us that $20,000 out of pocket now, bye!

Obviously rattled and confused, I went back to the office (which is only a few minutes from where I live) and asked what the hell happened, the lady who helped us last time even vouched for us and said she knows we filled that out and gave it to them, she was there, only for them to go into my file and realise the way the file had been scanned cut off part of the field, so the automated systems didn’t see it and auto-cancelled my whole pension over it. So we had to wait an additional half and hour for the office staff to argue with whoever was in charge of that decision, to let them fix it because as far as Centrelink was concerned the issue wasn’t negotiable. It did eventually get sorted, so I’m at least not loosing my pension and being forced to pay back the dept out of pocket.

My partner, before coming to Australia was in the US military, he describes his experience with them as being treated like “numbered cannon fodder” and his dealings with the VA as being treated like “a piece of dog shit on their shoes”. He fought with the Australian immigration department for years to be allowed to stay here, the department that openly and proudly discriminated against him and me for our disabilities, that insisted he jump through countless hoops for the most ridiculous of reasons to prove he “wouldn’t be a burden on the system”. But today he just sat in the car after all this and stared off into space, saying this is the worst treatment from a government agency he’s ever seen. They didn’t see us as people, we were numbers. That automated cancellation over an automated mistake would have put us on the street if my mother wasn’t in the picture and paying off $20,000 of dept out-of-pocket. And they just didn’t care. We made a mistake, yes, but it was a mistake that is in-line with the diagnostic criteria of one of my disabilities (forgetfulness from a brain injury) and we did everything we were supposed to do to make it right once I noticed. we fessed up and did what we needed to fix it, we got help from multiple staff members to ensure we did everything we were supposed to, but a machine made a mistake and nearly ruined our lives anyway.

Im not saying any of this to ask for money btw, I couldn’t accept it even if I wanted to because I’m pretty sure that would count as income too and would mean my pension would go down even more or just be cut (again) entirely. We’re safe and as stable as we could be in this situation for now. I just wanted to vent a bit and explain where I’ve been. I’m probably not going to be back online again for a bit while we get the rest of this situation sorted, and once I move to mum’s, so the messages and ask box are staying closed for a bit longer.

[sahlosacarver]

Genuinely I don’t know how anyone survives off Jobseeker. I don’t believe in ‘dole bludgers’, there’s no way that any significant portion of people with any other option are just chilling on jobseeker putting in all the work that it takes to keep your payment just to receive poverty wages that barely cover the basic necessities (if you’re LUCKY). I knew that the mutual obligations were pretty full on but my god. This is nuts.

It would be easier to work (if anyone would fucking hire me, now they definitely won’t because they all ask if you’re registered with Workforce Australia and use that to discriminate against people who are on jobseeker). I put in years of work to become an RN and came out the other end of it with no job, and people wanna act like I’m living it up at the government’s expense?? I’m miserable, I can’t afford anything I want without counting change first, I WANT to work but I can’t get a job because everyone goes ‘well you just finished a nursing degree so why are you applying for retail?’

Fuck this place and abolish mutual obligations, also raise jobseeker above the poverty line? Fucking hello???

[squidbian-ink]

very frustrating issue I keep encountering as an undiagnosed sick/disabled person.

$1 kofi doodles <- help me get a laptop and pay for medical bills. might actually help me get a diagnosis that way lol

downloadable stickers on my Etsy

[myrtaceaae]

I wish Mum stopped convincing herself to see the best in everything. It's actively harming her.

She came home from the jobseeker psychologist (free, but attached to the compulsory job search place) in tears.

Not because they delved deep into her soul, but because they listened to Mum telling all her struggles and basically said "wow that sounds hard, what you need to do is find a job but". And then spent the rest of the session berating her.

And when I voiced concern mum was like "oh I'm sure it came from a good place, I'm sure she was trying to help me". No. It's because if you get a job, the jobactive place gets paid more. She wasn't saying all that because it was in your best interest.

And Mum just goes "yeah.... Maybe.... But I'm sure her heart's in the right place... I'm sure she cares..."

Mum! She doesn't give a shit about you! She doesn't get paid to help you psychologically! She gets paid when you find a job! That's it!

[letsdrinkcoffeeinhell]

All those ominous unspeaking hooded guys who did all the torturing in castle dungeons? They got tired of being defeated by escaping protagonists. They all work for centrelink now, and they've never been more productive.

[hotmeneatingbeans]

scenes from a centrelink office: where dreams go to die

a perzine by em c.

[virtualmosshroom]

UGHH!!!! I have been placed back into a regular employment service instead of a DISABILITY SERVICE!!!! And now I have to find a doctor to prove that I’m disabled and not well enough to be in the regular service!!!! I haven’t had a consistent doctor in over two fucking years!!!! And it’ll cost me $60 out of pocket to see a GP for this!!!!!!!!!!