I know this is really out there, but I sometimes wonder what Cercei would have been like as a man - if she would have been the son Tywin wanted. Do you think as a man she would have been able to live up to his quiet sexist expectations?
Cersei thinks she would.
Not only she believes she’s Tywin’s true heir, the only one worthy of carrying on his legacy (as we know what she thinks of Tyrion, and by AFFC her other brother proves to be just another spineless fool)…
If Lord Tywin could see me now, he would know he had his heir, an heir worthy of the Rock.
…but she aims even higher than that. She actually wants to outshadow Tywin’s memory with her own greatness:
The Lord of Casterly Rock deserved rainbows. He had been a great man. I shall be greater, though. A thousand years from now, when the maesters write about this time, you shall be remembered only as Queen Cersei’s sire.
Cersei feels the inequality with which she’s treated (in comparison to Tywin) very sharply:
No one had ever balked her lord father. When Tywin Lannister spoke, men obeyed. When Cersei spoke, they felt free to counsel her, to contradict her, even refuse her. It is all because I am a woman. Because I cannot fight them with a sword.
I mean, she’s really, really BITTER about it.
Aurane had asked her leave to name [a ship] Lord Tywin, which Cersei had been pleased to grant. She looked forward to hearing men speak of her father as a “she.”
She thinks her gender is the only reason why people don’t take her as seriously as Tywin. Jaime, however, disagrees.
His sister liked to think of herself as Lord Tywin with teats, but she was wrong. Their father had been as relentless and implacable as a glacier, where Cersei was all wildfire, especially when thwarted. […] She does not lack for wits, but she has no judgment, and no patience.
so is Cersei right to believe she’d be the son Tywin wanted? Is Cersei right about anything at all?
I mean, a male!Cersei would be a different Cersei (also different than Jaime, despite their belief that they’re basically the same person). Would male!Cersei have the same drive and ambition that canon!Cersei has—would she have the same hunger for power, in a scenario where power is essentially bestowed on her by virtue of her gender & trueborn status, and she’s expected and entitled to rule her House and doesn’t have to fight for any of those things? Or would she develop the sort of blasé attitude towards power that OT Jaime has? On the other hand, would receiving a proper political/military education prevent Cersei from making the mistakes she does in original timeline?
Is Cersei’s problem, the root of all her failures, the lack of experience/education in the fields she wants to operate in and the fact that nobody takes her seriously because of her gender, which causes frustration and endless sloppy lashing out in turn? Or is Cersei simply not as good at this as she thinks? (in which case, wouldn’t being born male just highlight her ineptitude even more, rather than fixing it?)
It’s a bit of a chicken/egg situation: was Cersei actually born as Tywin’s *true heir* but with the wrong gender, or was exactly Cersei’s gender (with all the experiences that came with it) that shaped her into the person who wants to be Tywin’s heir? The Cersei we have in the original timeline—the Cersei who thinks she’s Tywin with teats, who feels like she was robbed of her birthright because of her gender and who relentlessly and violently rages against the system—not to subvert it, but to take control of it—is a Cersei who was largely shaped by her experiences as a woman in that society. Take those experiences from her, and you might get a completely different character. But not necessarily one that’s more similar to Tywin, or that Tywin would respect.
More importantly, is Tywin’s model really a winning one?
Tywin’s M.O., based on fear, repression and rewarding those who cower and accept his despotic rule, only works in the short run. His reign of terror granted house Lannister its 15 minutes of glory, sure. But what did it leave? Destruction and famine. A divided country. Three children at war with each other. Three illegitimate grandchildren, whose illegitimacy caused the shitstorm that is currently eating Westeros from the inside. Nobody is willing to fight for the Lannisters, because everybody either fears, or hates, or wants to use them. Compare it to Ned’s legacy, to a North that, however wounded, will rise in rebellion once again for his children, and you’ll see whose legacy is actually winning the game. Make no mistake, if house Lannister is falling, a good 80% of that is Tywin’s doing, and it KILLS me that he isn’t alive to see the mess he’s done (not that he’d take any responsibility for that, of course).
I think this is why you have not only one, but two parallel (but different) “Tywin’s true heir” examples in both Cersei and Tyrion. Both were, for different reasons, written off by Tywin, who placed all his bets on the able-bodied firstborn son (the irony, of course, is that Jaime is the LEAST like him). But in my opinion Cersei’s ~true heir~ narrative is a red herring, and represents a foil to Tyrion’s. While Cersei spends all her time telling herself she’s the most like Tywin, the Tywin=Tyrion equation is spelled out by the mostly unbiased voice of Genna. Tyrion is the one whose rise as *true heir of Lannister* would offend Tywin the most. Tyrion is Tywin’s most hated child, the one he disavowed in the end. Tyrion literally kills Tywin, an action that is rife with archetypal (and freudian) subtext about replacing one’s father. While Cersei has no problem or inner conflict about embracing Tywin’s violent legacy, Tyrion has much more ambivalent feelings about it (although his ADWD arc might suggest otherwise, and although he has his own share of darkness, for all his life Tyrion has rebelled against the idea of being a monster). While Cersei will probably die in the attempt to give her best performance as Tywin-with-teats, uncritically replicating Tywin’s violent and oppressive ideology, Tyrion is bound to rise ABOVE it. (Literally, maybe, on the back of a dragon.)
tldr; I don’t think asoiaf’s thesis re: Cersei is “OH, IF ONLY SHE WAS BORN MALE, SHE’D BE SO GREAT AT HAVING ACTUAL LEGITIMATE POWER”, no. (That would come with a troubling subtext that Cersei deserves power because she is the best at being ~A REAL MAN~ despite her gender, as if being masculine-spirited or whatever is the only thing that gives legitimacy to her feelings of being unjustly denied opportunities—which, incidentally, is what Cersei believes, and she’s wrong. Nobody “deserves” to have power, especially not on account of having more “masculine”-coded traits, but all people deserve to have the same opportunities. Cersei could be as meek as lady Tanda, and a society that discards her because of her gender would still be wrong.)
MAYBE, with proper education, resources and recognition from social peers, Cersei would have become another Tywin. But ~the heir house Lannister NEEDS~ is not another Tywin. It’s someone who will take Tywin’s ideology and rip it apart (that’s why it’s Tyrion).That’s the only way house Lannister can survive, and I don’t even know if it will be enough, to be honest. A male!Cersei might have lived up to Tywin’s expectations (maybe, because Tywin’s expectations are so toxic they’re impossible to live up to), but she’d lack empathy and the intelligence to recognize the true enemy all the same, which are the essential qualities a political leader is required to have, at least in the particular circumstances Westeros is right now. A male!Cersei would probably bring house Lannister to its grave even quicker than in original timeline, I think.









