Oh also! Do you like Spitelout's RTTE design as well? I like how in the later seasons (when he looks more like his 2nd movie design) he wears a bit of color rather than all black & brown and I love the green eyes they gave him! A bit more dark and bright than Hiccup & Toothless's eye colors. =)
Hi again! I never really considered ruffspite until I found your blog and I really like the thought of it~ I was happy to see a little Eret/Spitelout too cause I’ve been thinking about it since seeing the 3rd movie, trying to imagine Snotlout feeling like Eret’s a rival for Valka & Ruff’s affection, only to see him kissing his dad >w> I’ve noticed you aren’t really a fan of show Spitelout, could you tell me what you think of him if you don’t mind? I hope I havn’t bothered you!
To answer your questions: his design was par for the course in the TV show. His character… eh. It didn’t match up to the movies for me. At all, really.
As I’ve said in several posts (posts you’ve must have run into by now) movie-canon and TV-canon are different. Yes, they follow the same ‘canon’ timeline, and yes the showrunners tried to do their homework where they could to keep from clashing with the movies by consulting with Dean and yes, if people want to shoehorn that TV show into the movies fully, then that’s their prerogative. But they don’t match up. The writing is different, is what it comes down to. They’re literally written by two different parties, there’s too many details that misalign (especially for fans that had broken the movie down long before the TV show aired), even the humor and interactions were noticeably more juvenile in comparison (and, uh, don’t get me started on the Hiccstrid part). And for several areas of dispute, long-standing headcanons are so much better and more satisfying to the movie atmosphere than what the TV show produced. My two cents, anyway.
And Spitelout is a perfect example. His relationship with his son comes off as completely different in the movies compared to the borderline emotionally abusive relationship he seems to have with Snotlout in the show. In fact, they’ve managed to make him a flatter character in the TV show than in the movies, where his handful of words, grunts, and many, many expressions paint a fuller person. We don’t get that abusive subtext at all from the movies. And the movies, what makes them so rich, is the subtext. The TV show is like a bull in a china shop compared to the movies, tbh. But like I said, different writing. And the audience is obviously aimed at… what was it? Oh yeah, 9-13 year old boys.
I’m glad you like Ruffspite! I mean, it’s purely a crackship for me, but it still holds some appeal, even now.
Now this Eret/Spitelout… that’s something I’m going to look for whenever I see the movie again. Where was it? I’m genuinely curious. It’s an interesting idea if Gobber and Spitelout were to start a silent rivalry over Eret. You know, the kind the whole village is aware of and watches for like the gossipers they are.
In HTTYD1 Snotlout says “my parents’ basement” which makes me think he has a mother in the picture (Freda, I believe her names was in the books). Maybe she died in Drago’s attack! Or maybe she’s just hiding. Maybe she left Spitelout because she couldn’t conform to the new Berkian lifestyle! Oooh, so many mabeys…
Maybe she took Snotlout’s sister and joined the Bog Burglars. Yum, I like that.